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Zardari as President to counter problems
12 September, 2008
Mr Zardari was thrust into the centre stage of current political developments when his wife, the charismatic former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated in December.
Since then he has led her Pakistan People`s Party (PPP) through successful general elections and worked with former political enemies to force President Pervez Musharraf to resign. And yet before Ms Bhutto`s death, Mr Zardari`s public image was so bad that the PPP kept him out of the public eye as much as possible during the campaigning for February`s elections.
He spent several years in jail on charges of corruption. He was labelled "Mr 10%".
He found himself in major trouble in 1990 when he was accused of tying a remote-controlled bomb to the leg of a businessman and sending him into a bank to withdraw money from his account as a pay-off. However, he was whisked out of prison to be made a minister after the PPP won elections in 1993. In 1996, he was arrested under the Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance. He found himself charged with the murder of Mir Murtaza Bhutto, his wife`s brother. He was later charged, along with his wife, and convicted in a kickbacks scam involving a Swiss company, SGS. But a mistrial was declared by Pakistan`s Supreme Court following a major scandal involving the accountability bureau and the judge who had issued the verdict.
Pakistan`s judiciary has not had a reputation for acting independently of the government when it comes to high-profile cases, especially of a political nature. His last prison sentence lasted eight years until 2004, during which time he says he was tortured. It ended as the then General Musharraf was engaged in protracted negotiations with Benazir Bhutto, then in self-imposed exile, for some form of political reconciliation.
Mr Zardari resolutely stood by his party as well as his wife - although at times he disagreed with the politics of both.
His friends say this was entirely in character and that no-one can deny his personal courage.
Mr Zardari already has the judiciary in subservience, and the Parliament will also know to him, as Mr Yousuf Raza Gilani`s demeanour indicates Mr Zardari is choice of persons like Salman Farooqi and Rehman Malik who had questionable reputations in their earlier tenures as Financial and Police officials has aroused suspicious about his future intentions. Even persons chosen for the top diplomatic positions like Pakistan`s to Washington and High Commissioner to London are Party loyalists. It may be recalled that as prime minister in her first term, Benazir had personalised the choice of personnel for government jobs by downgrading the role of the Federal Public Service Commission and establishing the Placement Bureau under her direct control. However, the merit system would be undermined through party and personal patronage. Wholesale "cleansing" campaigns may be launched.
As president, Mr Zardari will undoubtedly continue the Bhutto legacy of close relations with China, though he will also seek a good relationship with the US and India. Tackling the threats of extremism and terrorism will be a major challenge and he has already complicated matters by backing self-reliance and negotiations along the Pak-Afghan and opposing a pro-active role by US and NATO forces.
According to scenario mentioned above, what do you think about President Zardari`s future as a president?
Lawyers movement is once again getting momentum. In your opinion will they give President Zardari a tough time?
Will President Zardari make his government able to tackle Pakistan mounting problems like economy, energy and law & order, inflation, unemployment etc.?
Do you think President Zardari would face any other issues or challenges from other political parties in addition to concerns raised by PML-N?
Do you think, President Zardari is the right replacement of Former President Musharraf?
He won't name Indian culprits
Zardari won't even mention the terror problems caused to Paks by Indians, let alone encountering them.
Here is my poem from Canada on that real culprit(Indians)issue as such:
Afghan drug money
But Indian more
Helps em terrorists
That is for sure
The real one's name
No mention no blame
Zardari won't tell
About Indian hell
Our soldiers die
And bombs explode
Pak innocents killed
Indians are thrilled
That culprit main
Will ever remain
Real killer of Pak
Zardari won't talk
My dear Pak friends
That India sends
The men and doe
That all us know
But Zardari the man
He's India's fan
With them he'll flirt
When Paks get hurt
Instead he blamed
Kashmiris he named
Who are most innocent
Zardari be shamed
Paks cry and tell
It's Indian hell
Don't name his friends
My sweet dear Paks
Hear every body talks
It's Indian hands
Even fool understands
His face is double
Despite our trouble
We're sad and blue
It's Zardari for you
A. Mahmood, Canada - 20 October, 2008
Now his tongue would fail and fall short of naming the main culprit who is causing much of terrorist problems to Paks.Zardari won't mention, let alone counter that key problem maker.
Just read a short poem of me as such:
Zardari hides culprit, he talks about
All know it's India, there aint no doubt
About our enemy, your dearest friend
Zardari your silence is all pretend
And here is a very famous song by America's all time best voice of Nat King Cole in the song titled, "PRETEND." that goes as such:
PRETEND YOU'RE HAPPY WHEN YOU'RE BLUE
IT ISN'T VERY HARD TO DO
AND YOU'LL FIND HAPPINESS WITHOUT AN END
WHENEVER YOU PRETEND
REMEMBER ANY ONE CAN DREAM
AND NOTHIN'S HARD AS IT MAY SEEM
THE LITTLE THINGS YOU HAVE GOT
COULD BE A LOT
IF YOU PRETEND
YOU'LL FIND THE LOVE YOU CAN SHARE
ONE YOU CAN CALL ALL YOUR OWN
JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES, SHE'LL BE THERE
YOU'LL NEVER BE ALONE
AND IF YOU SING THIS MELODY
YOU'LL BE PRETENDING JUST LIKE ME
THE WORLD IS MINE, IT CAN BE YOUR'S MY FRIEND
IF YOU PRETEND
AND AMERICA AND THE WORLD STILL LOVES THIS SONG DESPERATELY, EVEN WHEN IT IS SIXTY YEARS OLD SWEET,VELVET SOFT SOFT, SILK AND SATIN SMOOTH AND VERY TENDER MELODY BY AMAZING VOICE OF NAT KING COLE.
THIS SONG "PRETEND" BY AMERICA'S ALL TIMES VERY BEST VOICE OF NAT KING COLE IS IMPORTANT PART OF MY LIFE.NO WONDER AMERICA'S LEADING RECORDING COMPANY,CAPITAL RECORDS OWNER OUT OF HIS CRAZED LOVE FOR NAT KING COLE'S VOICE, NAMED HIS BUSINESS'S AND THE WORLD'S FIRST CIRCULAR OFFICE BUILDING COMPLETED IN LOS ANGELES IN 1956 AS NAT KING COLE TOWER THAT BEARS THE SAME NAME EVEN AFTER MORE THAN HALF THE CENTURY.THAT IS LOVE BY CAPITAL RECORD'S FOUNDING OWNER FOR NAT KING COLE, WHOSE SONGS WERE RECORDED BY CAPITAL RECORDS FROM 1943 TO NAT KING COLE'S EARLY DEATH IN 1965.BUT, NEVER MIND, HE REMAINS STILL THE ONLY SINGER TO BECOME RECIPIENT OF AMERICA'S GRAMMY HALL OF FAME AWARD EVER AWARDED EVEN 27 YEARS AFTER HIS DEATH. THAT 60 YEARS OLD SONG TO GET BEST SONG AWARD AGAIN FOR ANY SINGER AFTER HIS DEATH IS 1992 GRAMMY HALL OF FAME RECIPIENT SONG,"UNFORGETABLE" BY NAT KING COLE THAT WAS SUNG IN EARLY FIFTIES BY HIM AND HAS LYRICS AS SUCH:
THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE
THOUGH NEAR OR FAR
IN EVERY WAY
AND FOR EVER MORE
THAT'S HOW YOU'LL STAY."
AND SOUTH ASIA'S UNFORGETABLE IS NO BODY OTHER THAN MELODY QUEEN NOOR JEHAN, WHO HAS AS MUCH OF PITCH,RANGE, DEPTH, MANIPULATION AND FLOW OF HER DIVINE VOICE.
FEEL NOSTALGIC FOR NOOR JEHAN'S VERY BEST IN DOPATTA, INTEZAR, CHAN VEY, KHANDAN, ANMOL GARI, JUGNU, GOONGHAT, KOEL, HEER RANJA, PATEY KHAN AND MANY MANY OTHERS.
AND NO ONE WILL EVER ARGUE THAT AMERICA'S 1950 ACADEMY AWARD WINNING SONG "MONA LISA" BY PERFECT SCORE OF FIVE OUT OF 5 IS DEFINITELY THE BEST SONG EVER RECORDED IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 20 October, 2008
Her lips of rose kiss Kashmiris
"EIK TO ZALIM HONT KI LALI
OOS PE BAIREN ROOT MATWALI"
____ NAHID AKHTAR IN HER GREAT LOVE SONG "HATHON ME GAJRA."
THE ABOVE LYRICS OF FAMOUS LOVE SONG BY PAKISTANI SONGSTRESS NAHID AKHTAR CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH AS SUCH:
"ONE, I'VE MURDEROUS LIPS OF ROSE
AND WEATHER IS LOVERLY, SO IT GOES."
THOSE RED LIPS OF ROSE IN NAHID AKHTAR'S SONG WERE VERY MUCH IN EVIDENCE ALONG WITH BLUSH ON HER CHEEKS OF PAK MINISTER SHERRY REHMAN, WHEN SHE ROSE UP TO DEFEND KASHMIRIS AFTER ZARDARI HAD SAID SOME UGLY TALKS ABOUT THE PEACE LOVING PEOPLE.
WE USED TO WATCH THE BEAUTY BB CRY ON TV IN SUPPORT OF KASHMIRIS.EVEN SHE MUST BE CRYING IN PARADISE ON SOME ONE TALKING SILLY ABOUT KASHMIRIS.I BET THE ANGELS OF PARADISE MUST BE WIPING BB'S TEARS ON HER CHEEKS WHILE SINGING LYRICS FROM AMERICA'S ALL TIME BEST VOICE OF NAT KING COLE AS SUCH:
'I'll dry your tears all through the night."
IT IS SAD SAD SAD.
SHERRY STOOD WITH HER HIGH MORAL GROUNDS AND WORDS OF DEFENSE CAME FROM HER RED ROSE LIPS AND CHEEKS BLOSSOMING WITH BLUSH AND GLOSS.SHERRY'S VERY KISSABLE LIPS WERE SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND REFUTING SOME ONE'S FOLLY.SHERRY WAS TRULY LOVABLE IN EVERY KASHMIRI EYES AND SHE APPEARED AS MUCH PRETTY AS HER KASHMIRA SISTERS AND BROTHERS.
I DEDICATE LYRICS FROM A VERY GREAT SONG BY AMERICA'S ALL TIME BEST VOICE OF NAT KING COLE IN THE SONG,"STAY AS SWEET AS YOU ARE" OF 60 YEARS AGO AND GO LIKE THIS:
STAY AS SWEET AS YOU ARE
DON'T LET A THING EVER CHANGE YOU
STAY AS SWEET AS YOU ARE
DON'T LET A SOUL RE-ARRANGE YOU
DONT EVER LOOSE ALL THE CHARMS YOU POSSESS
YOUR LOVELINESS DARLIN THE WAY YOU SAY YES
STAY AS SWEET AS YOU ARE
DISCREET AS YOU ARE
YOU'RE DIVINE DEAR
STAY AS GRAND AS YOU ARE
AND AS YOU ARE.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 21 October, 2008
WISDOM COMES FIRST
I AM ONLY A RETIRED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN CANADA NOW AND HAD MY WORK PUBLISHED IN THE ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL ENGINEERING CONFERENCES OF AMERICA'S VERY TOP PLACES. IN 2004, I HAD MY GAS ENGINEERING RELATED WORK PUBLISHED IN LRGCC, GAS PROCESSORS OF AMERICA, NACE, KYOTO AND US MILITARY PUBLICATIONS. IMMEDIATELY AFTER MYRETIREMENT, I HAVE JUST GOT WORK AGAIN BETWEEN AMERICA, CANADA AND MIDDLE EAST.
SO, I AM NOT A POLITICIAN OR MILITARY EXPERT AND MY THINKING MAY BE WRONG OR IT MAY BE RIGHT. AND I APPOLOGIZE TO THOSE, WHO MAY GET HURT BECAUSE OF MY WRITING.
WITH MY HEART IN PAKISTAN, I THINK THAT EVERY PAKISTANI MUST REALIZE THE BIG DANGERS FROM BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
PAKISTAN NEEDS STRONG MILITARY BRAINS TO OVERWHELM THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE FACED BY VERY FEW COUNTRIES DUE TO MOST IMOPRTANT GEO-STRATEGY.THERE IS NOTHING AGAINST CIVILIAN RULERS IF THEY REALIZE THE CRITICAL NATURE OF SITUATION PAKS ARE IN.
PAKISTAN'S ONLY ENEMY INDIA IS HELL BENT TO DESTROY PAKISTAN AND IS EVEN DOING MONKEY RIDE MISCHIEFS ON THE BACK OF AMERICA.
PAK CURRENT RULERS ARE THROUGH DEMOCRACY AND THEY HAVE EVERY DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS TO DANCE WITH WHOEVER AND WHOMEVER.BUT YES SO, IF THEY SHOULD REALLY LISTEN TO MILITARY AS THE LIFELINE BENEFACTORS OF THE COUNTRY.THIS BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT SO IF THEY DO NOT POSSESS THE RIGHT BRAINS OR ARE TOO NAIVELY TRYING TO BEFRIEND A SNAKE WHO NEVER WILL BE A FRIEND UNLESS AND UNTIL PAKISTAN UN-DOES THE 1947 PARTITION AND DROPS BACK INTO INDIA AGAIN.
NO MATTER HOW BAD YOU TALK AGAINST MUSHARRAF, BUT AT LEAST HE HAD THE BRAINS.I RESPECT NAWAZ SHARIF AS HE IS VERY PATRIOTIC AND LOYAL TO THE COUNTRY, BUT LIKE ZARDARI, HE IS DEVOID OF BRAINS AND INTELLIGENCE.THAT IS ONLY MY THINKING ANY WAYS AND THE TRUTH MAY LIE OTHERWISE.
I MAY BE WRONG AND I APPOLOGIZE TO EVERY BODY WHO GETS OFFENDED OR HURT. THESE ARE ONLY MY VIEWS AND I CAN BE DUM AS WELL AS I PUT MYSELF IN A BUSINESS FAILURE IN CANADA TO LOOSE MY OLD AGE MONEY VERY CLOSE TO MY RETIREMENT.BUT, THIS AGAIN WAS NOT MY FAULT AS MY BUSINESS PARTNER, WHO OWNED ALLIANCE ENGINEERING DIED IN CAR CRASH IN NOVEMBER 2005 AND EVERY THING FELL APART. BUT, BY THE GRACE OF ALLAH, I AM PICKING UP WORLD CLASS ENGINEERING WORK BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND MIDDLE EAST EVEN AFTER MY RETIREMENT ALONG WITH MY PENSION MONEY.PAKISTAN IS VERY DEAR TO ME AND I FEEL EMBARRASSED AS SOME ONE IN PAKISTAN DID NOT EVEN ACCEPT MY OFFER TO DO EVEN FREE ENGINEERING WORK.BUT, I HAVE CONNECTIONS IN CANADA THAT CAN AT LEAST TRY TO BRING LATEST OPEN PIT COAL MINING AND EVEN POWER GENERATION FROM COAL.WE CAN REALLY CHANGE SUI GAS PROCESSING SYSTEM WHICH IS STILL ON 1957 TECHNOLOGY AND THERE CAN BE TREMENDOUS SAVINGS AND ENERGY CONSERVATIONS IN GAS PROCESS SYSTEMS THERE IF WE BRING IN WHAT AMERICANS AND CANADIANS ARE DOING LATEST.I WAS INVITED BY THE SAUDIS AND THE IRANIANS JUST A YEAR AGO AND NOTHING PLEASED ME BY THE FACT THAT IRAN'S VERY TOP MEN IN GAS AND PIPE LINE SPENT DAYS LISTENING TO ME IN TEHRAN AND EVEN MY STAY AND TRIP WAS PAID BY THE IRANIANS.IRANIAN GAS INDUSTRY AND PIPE LINE INTEGRITY CAN BE CHANGED MUCH FOR THE BETTER.AND BETWEEN THE NEWLY DEVELOPING GAS CARTEL LIKE OPEC, THE THREE COUNTRIES IN THE CARTEL POSSESS MORE THAN 65 PERCENT OF THE WORLD'S GAS RESERVES.AND IRANIAN GAS IS MORE RICH IN CNG THAN ANY GASFIELDS OR GAS PROCESSING I WAS INVOLVED IN NORTH AMERICA.
BUT, NOW, MY PAK FRIENDS ARE EVEN WARNING ME ABOUT NOT EVEN VISITING PAKISTAN AFTER I WRITE WHATEVER WITH MY VERY FREE AND CRAZED AND VERY LIBERAL THINKING.I HAVE HAD THREATS COME TO ME RIGHT FROM INSIDE OF INDIA OVER MY VERY FREE MOODS AND MODES OF EXPRESSION.
I MAY BE WRONG OR I MAY BE RIGHT. BUT, THAT IS MY DEEP THOUGHTS, YET VERY FREE THOUGHTS, ANY WAYS.THE RIGHTS AND TRUTHS ARE ONLY GOD'S.
I COULD NOT DO SUCH POLITICAL THINKING WHEN I WAS DOING WORLD CLASS WORK IN GAS ENGINEERING AND WHICH EVEN GOT PUBLISHED IN THE WORLD'S AND AMERICA'S VERY TOP PLACES IN THEIR ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCES OF 2004 IN PARTICULAR.
LET US ALL PRAY THAT OUR PAKISTAN SURVIVES AND STAYS SAFE FROM OUR ONLY HELL BENT ENEMY INDIA.WISH ZARDARI SUCCEEDS IN TURNING THAT SNAKE INTO FRIEND, BUT DOUBTS ABOUND MORE THAN FANCY FARES OF DREAMS.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 22 October, 2008
A Husband can never replace a wife or the former Prime misiter
Pervez Musharaff was the hope for Pakistan, now we've lost that hope. "Allah pls bless pakistan"
Yasmin Khan, United Arab Emirates - 22 October, 2008
What a Joke
Zardari, Are you kidding me! UK and USA never want to see him as a president. They wanted Bainazir Murhuma and Musharaff to work together. I think the corruptions start from the top level, this election was not a fair elections anyway it was all pre-planned. When people of Pakistan is going to understand the true politics. People! Look at our parliament where majority of politicians support there leader opinions, mean we don't have democracy whatsoever. They are all puppets and president is another puppet of US and UK that is why he went right a way to UK and USA to show his supports. What you expect from a corrupted environment. Take an examples police, Law and order situations, school systems, We have never compete with the world in a timely fashion. We were so busy in the past building nuclear assets, we completely forget the need to build our institutions and enhancing our school system. The consultants are plenty but what have been accomplished so far from their ideas, nothing.Let us determine if we are a failed nation. Looking past 61 years of Pakistan history, We have achieved one and only one thing is, we made a nuclear bomb. But we failed to enhance our education system, we have no real institutions giving you examples, police, judiciary, Parliaments, executives, look at drainage system, look at our roads systems, Muslim country created by the lawyer called Qaid-E-Azam Mohd Ali Jinnah and these mowlanas say that it is their country and never let this nation to go forward. The mentality of our nation is being divided by these people who make them think that we are not Muslims if we don't go to Madrassas. The fight among Shia, Sunni, Qadyanis, etc. The mental capacities exceed the limit to understand the main issues of our daily lives. We have no laws even when Hazrat Ali said that without law of the land nobody can move forward. But look at others specially in the West who seems more Muslims than you and I. This nation never appreciate the good and criticize the bad so often. We become consultants and really have no ideas (after 61 years) to fix just one institution. Mean we have not fixed anything as yet. How depressing? We just pray that whoever got us Pakistan they all be up there somewhere laughing at us. Let bring some consultants from outside to help us fixed our problems. Now we are so confused that we are killing our own brothers and sisters. We cannot go lower than that. How to say this but our families overseas send us money and supports us so dearly see no hope in this country. What options do we have now?. We have not yet create an understanding among ourselves on anything, more where no money in pocket asking friends and strangers to help us fix our economy. Why they care when we have no agenda in our lives. Say you are nuclear power and you think you are a lion, but a wounded one and plenty of hyenas are out there to finish you off. I think I said enough and I am crying when I could not say anymore I only wish that the people of Pakistan are the best people on this earth prove themselves that they don't need any help from anybody and can still fight as a wounded lion no matter what it takes us to come together as a nation and work really hard in this situation to overcome our difficulties. We have issues and issues and let take all one at a time, slowly but surely in our obligation to our brothers and sisters we will prevail as a nation. If Zardari is a changed person and believe in his leadership, than he has to prove himself in a very short time, and in the meantime all I am going to say "May Allah Help Us All"
Aslam Sheikh, Pakistan - 22 October, 2008
Friends in need
Pakistan's economic problems were not of its own making.Then the country got caught in blame crossfire of terror,which again it was exported by the vicious foes that are hell bent to dis-integrate the country and they did not even hesitate to finance the terrorists and create suicide bombings to destabilize Pakistan.That caused withdrawl of foreign invested money and shrinking of the Forex.On top of all these ugly happenings,the world's richest including America on the lead went through worse financial melt down to the tune of trillion dollars.Hundreds of money lords in America have been served subpoenas by FBI with charges of fraud and more are being served every day with more of subpoenas.And to make things worse,the world went through high energy prices,which again are going to shoot up after the economies of the world start recovering.
And still the worse shock came to the world was the first time ever stock market crash and ensuing a recession in the election year of America.In america's election years of the past, economies were booming and people made 50 percent gains on the invested money as stock market and economic boom were sure thing in every US election years.
THE ONLY GOOD THING GOING ON FOR PAKISTAN THIS YEAR WAS SOME WHAT INCREASE IN REMITTANCE BY OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS ON THE SCALE OF 0.6 BILLION DOLLARS A MONTH OR JUST OVER 7 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR SENT BACK HOME.PLUS, THERE IS OVER 2 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT THE PAKS SPEND THERE AS 10000-20000 PAKISTANIS VISIT HOME EVERY WEEK.PAKISTAN CONSCIOUS PEOPLE LIVING ABROAD HAVE ALREADY INCREASED REMITTANCE TO BACK HOME BY 50 PERCENT OR SO THIS YEAR.PAKISTAN MUST KEEP CLOSELY WATCH IN STEADINESS OF THIS POSITIVE CASH FLOW, WHICH DOES'NT HAVE TO BE PAID OUT EXCEPT FOR SOME BAD GUYS BRINGING THEIR LOOT OUT OF THE COUNTRY.LET THAT PART STOP PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF OUR DEAR PAK PEOPLE.
PAKISTAN CAN BRING THINGS TO POSITIVE SIDE BY CUTTING BACK ON IMPORTS AND STOPPING ALL UN-NECESSARY IMPORTS.
I THINK ADEQUATE REMITTANCE BY PAK EXPATS AND CUT IN IMPORTS SHOULD BE CLOSELY WATCHED BY PAK GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE.
PAKISTAN HAS TO CREATE A SIZABLE SOURCE OF EXPORT REVENUES AND THAT CAN COME FROM TWO BIG PROMISING THINGS THAT PAKISTAN CAN BENEFIT FROM.MOST OF PAKISTAN'S PROBLEMS WILL GET REDRESSED IF IT CAN DEVELOPE AND MINE EVEN HALF BILLION TONS OF COAL YEARLY FROM ITS 200 BILLION TONS OF COAL RESERVES,WHICH ARE WORLD'S SECOND BIGGEST.PAKS FRIENDS IN ARABIA AND CHINA SHOULD COME FORWARD IN THAT RESPECT AND IT WILL HAPPEN ONLY IF PAK GOVERNMENT ADOPTS A VERY NEUTRAL FOREIGN POLICY.80 MILLION TONS OF THAT 500 MILLION TONS OF COAL WILL HELP PAKISTAN CLOSE THE GAP OF 10000 MEGAWATT HOUR OF ELECTRICITY SHORT FALL AND REMAINING 420 MILLION TONS OF COAL EXPORTS WILL PAY ALL THE DEBT INCURRED ON COAL DEVELOPMENT PLUS OVER 10 BILLION DOLLARS BE LEFT OVER EVEN IF PAKS ARE PAID 40 PERCENT OF COAL SALES AS DEDUCTING EXPENSES BY FOREIGN COAL COMPANIES.
THEN CHINA SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO INVEST IN ENERGY SECTOR BY DEVELOPING INFRASTRUCTURE OF MAKING PAKISTAN AS ENERGY CORRIDOR BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST AND CHINA.THERE COULD BE TREMENDOUS BOOST TO PAK ECONOMY IF PAK AND CHINA CAN WORK TOGETHER ON ENERGY FACILITATION THROUGH PAKISTAN.
PASKISTAN CANNOT ACCEPT MUCH HELP FROM INDIA AS INDIA, ACCORDING TO ALL ENERGY THINK TANKS, HAS ALREADY MISSED THE ENERGY BOAT.MORE THAN 60 PERCENT OF INDIA'S POWER IS PRODUCED FROM COAL LIKE IN AMERICA AND CANADA AND INDIA IS BEGINNING TO RUN OUT OF ITS COAL.OIL AND GAS ARE PROHIBITIVE COST WISE TO PRODUCE POWER AND 75 PERCENT OF INDIA'S ENERGY BASKET IS MOSTLY IMPORTED OIL.US-INDIA NUCLEAR DEAL THAT WILL PRODUCE 10000 MEGA WATT HOUR OUT OF 20-25 REACTORS IS ONLY 8-10 PERCENT OF INDIA'S ELECTRIC ENERGY NEEDS AND JUST 2-3 PERCENT OF INDIA'S TOTAL ENERGY BASKET.ON OIL AND GAS PATCH IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY, THERE ARE TREMENDOUS BREAK DOWNS AND FAILURES AND INDIA IS BEING DRIVEN OUT OF JUST ABOUT EVERY ENERGY VENTURE COMPETITION ON GLOBAL BASE BY CHINA,LET ALONE EVEN THINKING OF THE AMERICAN OR EUROPEAN ENGINEERING.
SO PAKS SHOULD INVITE CHINA TO DEVELOPE PAKISTAN AS ITS ENERGY CORRIDOR AND DEVELOPE AT LEAST HALF BILLION TONS A YEAR COAL PRODUCTION THAT MIGHT COST BORROWING 15 BILLION DOLLARS, BUT WILL PAY ITSELF BACK IN 3-5 YEARS.
THEN PAKISTAN HAS HUGE RESERVES OF GOLD AND COPPER AND OTHER METALS ORES IN BALOCHISTAN. PAKS MUST ALL WORK THERE TOGETHER AS PAK BROTHERS.LOOK AT CANADA, WHERE ALMOST ALL OIL AND GAS IS IN ALBERTA PROVINCE,YET MAJORITY PEOPLE HERE ARE NOW FROM OUTSIDE OF ALBERTA AND EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY. LOOK AT AMERICA, WHERE MOST OF OIL AND GAS IS IN TEXAS, OKLAHOMA AND LOUISIANA, YET MAJORITY PEOPLE WORKING IN OIL PATCH ARE FROM ALL OVER AMERICA.OIL RICH ALBERTA PROVINCE IN CANADA HAS ALBERTANS IN MINORITY.LOOK AT CHINA'S OIL RICH SINKIANG, WHICH WAS 94 PERCENT MUSLIMS IN 1950,BUT HAS NOW HAN CHINESE MAJORITY THAT WORKS THERE IN OIL AND GAS FIELDS AS NECESSITY.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 22 October, 2008
Zardari by luck
I do not think that you can expect Zardari to perform miracles when the whole world is going through very rough,tough and slough of times.Even during normal times,the man would be kicking his feet to for having kisses of luck.
Zardari should perform miracles when the stock market has been singing blues world wide and has dropped on US election year with the only other drop of the century was on the onset of world war two in 1940.zardari should perform miracles when even America had a trillion dollar finanacial melt down and bail outs and Indian and Chinese markets too dropped from 45 to 60 percent.Zardari should perform miracles when there is energy insecurity and related fears along with scares of WW3.
I think any one expecting miracles from a man who has lived life of chance and luck needs his head examined.
But,never mind he can do oddly surpring with unpleasant talks of calling Kashmira a terrorist.this is akin to calling honey as poison.
You can ignore all that, but the global circumstances and dangers just do not permit to carry over revenge or counter revenge.His love of India may be like saying that sleeping with wolf can be safe or a snake will never sting or bite.
Yes Zardari has performed miracle by saying that India never hurt Pakistan while all the recent witness and proof has said contrary.
Why should Zardari counter the problems, when the mighty ones like America, Russia, China, Europe and India are all helpless with their hands tied to unfotunate global mess and confusion.
We would be very lucky and fortunate if the stock markets NYSE and all others, having failed the summer rally, do reverse with surprising Christmas or new year rallies.That and only that will tell the world that we have suffered only economic recession of bad degree and have skipped the depression of the 1930's that could then be only leapt out by WW2 and 200 million world wide deaths of military and civilians.only that awaited and languishingly wanted stock market rally on Christmas or new year will predict the change of luck for the better for our batered humanity of present.
ONLY THAT CHANGE OF LUCK IS WHAT WE ALL WANT AND HAUNT AS ZARDARI CAN HAVE HAPPY RIDE ON LUCK ALONE.
THE INDIAN WOLF MAY NOT HURT ZARDARI AND EVEN MAY SLEEP THE NIGHT THROUGH WITH HIM.BUT, PAK PEOPLE CANNOT TAKE EVEN ZERO CHANCE OF REMOTE OR AMBIGUOUS PROBABILITY.WE HAVE BEEN BURNED, BRUISED AND BLED WITH 1000 DEAD AND MANY TIMES MORE WOUNDED BY THE INDIAN FINANCED BOMBINGS.THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MUTE OR REBUT THE VERY RECENT EVIDENCE IS TO REWRITE THE DICTIONARY AND INTERCHANGE THE WORDS TRUE AND FALSE TO SUIT ZARDARI'S LOVE FOR INDIA.WE WILL HOLD OUR PARADISE HOORI KASHMIRA INTO THE MUTUAL LOVE AND IN OUR LOVING FINGERS.ZARDARI AND GILANI CAN DANCE AROUND ASH OF INDIAN BOLLYWOOD.MAY BE MEERA WILL GIVE HER SMILES FROM THERE, BUT DO NOT FORGET THAT IT IS ME ANWAR, WHO WROTE THAT POEM,"GRANDEST KISS OF ALL TIMES" THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON INTERNATIONAL FILM FARE IN LONDON AND ON BOLLYWOOD SITE.NEVER MIND THAT SOFT KISS THAT MEERA GOT IN NAZAR.PAKS CAN GIVE THEIR KISSABLE MEERA KISSES OF FIRE TO MAKE MEERA'S LIPS GLOW AS MUCH BRIGHT AS FLAME AND ABLAZE COLD FIRE OF LOVE TO HER DESIRE.REMEMBER THE GRANDEST MUSICAL EVER OF SOUTH ASIA THAT WAS INTEZAR WITH LYRICS AS SUCH:
'DIL JALTE JALTE JAL GIA
PIAR KI THANDI AAG MEIN"
AND WHO ELSE OTHER THAN NOOR JEHAN COULD SING THESE LYRICS IN THE SONG TITLED,"JIS DIN SE PIA DIL LE GAEY."
ZARDARI MAY OR MAY PERFORM MIRACLES IN THE TOUGEST SCENARIO THE WORLD IS FACING NOW,BUT HE CAN BE COMMISERATELY FORGIVEN AS HE LOST HIS DEAREST ONE IN TRAGIC SHOOT. IT WAS SHOCK SHOOT AS BB WAS SOME THING DEAR TO ALL WORLD.
BUT,ZARDARI WILL BE SADDLED ON MIRACLES IF THE NATION WORKS SINCERELY FOR THE UPLIFT OF THE COUNTRY.THE WHOLE WORLD IS WALKING ON TIGHT ROPE AS GLOOMERS AND DOOMERS WITH FINANCIAL REVERSES AND LOSSES IN STOCK MARKETS.CAN ZARDARI PERFORM MIRACLES TO SHOW THAT HE CAN REVERSE THE GLOOM AND DOOM OF PAKS AS WELL AS THE WORLD BY STEERING THE NATION AHEAD.ONLY LUCK CAN BEAT THE CLOCK AND MAY BE ZARDARI'S LUCK WILL DEFY THE WORLD'S DEPRESSIONS AND DEPTHS OF MIND SINKING.
ZARDARI'S PROVINCE HAS WORLD'S SECOND LARGEST COAL DEPOSITS. IT WILL BE MEGA LUCK IF THERE IS METALLURGICAL COAL(SELLING 300 DOLLARS PER TON)ALSO ALONG WITH THERMAL OR POWER COAL(SELLING 70 DOLLARS PER TON).IT WILL BE GOOD LUCK AND THANKED MIRACLE OF ZARDARI IF HE CALLS IT ALL PAKISTAN'S COAL.MAY BE SOME OF US PAKS CAN CONVINCE FOREIGN COMPANIES TO DO SAFER OPEN PIT MINING AS CHINA IS ALSO NOW GOING AMERICA'S SAFE WAY OF OPEN PIT MINING OF COAL AFTER TRAGIC YEAR OF 2006 WHEN CHINA LOST 5000 LIVES IN UNDER GROUND COAL MINES. THEY SHUT DOWN ALL SMALL AND DANGEROUS MINES AND ARE PUTTING IN STRINGENT SAFETY SATANDARDS LIKE THE AMERICANS,WHO FOR PRODUCING SIMILAR TONNAGE OF COAL. AMERICANS LOST 30 MEN IN WHOLE YEAR IN COAL MINES.CAN ZARDARI PERFORM THE MIRACLE AND ASK NOW SAFER CHINA OR US TO DEVELOPE PAK COAL.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 24 October, 2008
Half the problems are solved when we stop infighting.And infighting can be more dangerous to Pakistan than to any other country.Pakistan cannot afford to let itself off guard due to infighting because the voracious wolf standing on the eastern door would eat us all.
To counter problems, a country or people have to have one big viable industry.Many middle easterners have oil and gas in big reserves and production that has insulated them from the current global financial crisis and melt downs.
Pakistan has some world class resources and coal is on top if the coal quality is good as metallurgical coal or the thermal coal.It is better if Paks have metallurgical coal, which sells at 300 dollars per ton for steel making.Thermal coal for producing power sells for 70 dollars per ton.coal prices have not come down with oil and even oil is going to shoot back up again if and when the global recession is over.One big reason for drop in commodity prices is that China is consolidating its forex reserves at 2 trillion dollars level and temporarily cuttting back on energy consumption.India's forex reserves have dropped 40 billion dollars in the last 3-4 months and the drop in Indian forex reserves has been 18 billion dollars, or more than Forex reserves Paks ever possessed, in just 2 weeks.Indian rupee too has dropped just about as much as pak rupee(one US dolar worth over 50 rupees today from 2 years high of 39 and dropping badly of late). And big Asian countries are in the process of running out of coal in 2-3 decades to badly hurt the power generating as 60 percent or more power there is produced from coal.
Pakistan's coal deposits must have been studied for quality and fitness for different end use. Also, some one must have studdied the strata for fit for open pit or safe mode of coal mining.After 5000 lives lost, China has made five fold safety improvement records by shutting down dangerous small mines and by starting open pit mining,which is the practice in US and Canada and Australia.
Even though I just became a retired gas engineer I talked to Fording coal, who have their corporate head office in my city here.They produce 25 million tons of coal yearly(or one fourth of Canada's total production)through open pit mining and most of their coal is expensive metallurgical type that sells at 300 dollars per ton to produce metallurgical coke priced at 600 dollars per ton for steel making process.
Then I looked at coal production in south Asia. Pakistan having 200 billion tons or second largest coal reserves after America's 240 billion tons produces only 5 million tons coal a year compared to India producing almost 500 million tons yearly.
Here is some power coal innovation economics of coal and power marriage.To overcome Paks 9000 megawaat hour shortfall, you need 50 million tons of coal a year.And to invest 15-20 billion dollars to set up 10000 megawatt capacity power plants may be beyond reach if you play only with power.Just go in 5 parts or so with 25 million tons of coal through open pit mining.Pakistan may be able to get developmenta financing of 2-4 billion dollars from Canada and Australia and few more friends for each incremental project of same 25 million tons coal in size.From each 25 million tons size project, sell 15 million tons coal for 8-10 billion dollars annually(2-3 billion dollars net after expenses paid to foreign or domestic owner annually).Use 10 million tons coal per year to generate 2000 megawatt hour power.Make money from selling power and coal minus paying off of financing to build up open pit coal infrastructure as well as 3-4 billion dollars in setting up of power generation.
Repeat the exercise 3-4 times and Paks are like some middle easterners making money from oil and gas.
Some management in Fording coal in Canada were talking to me about simplicity and advantage of producing coal safely from open pit mining.Besides very strong safety rules are in place all the way through.I will be obtaining some more and detail information soon there as nothing moves without sound engineering.we see even top American politicians talking technical projects in non sense ways.in the end every thing boils down to engineering.May be I will chance to talk to some Paks after couple months,when I will be also meeting people in Tehran and Saudi Arabia as middle east is getting into high gear of development, which is badly hindered due to lack of sound and proper engineering.
All those thousands of princes and all the Iranians with money have plans but no break through engineering of proper fit.
These are some views to change the subject of doing criticism of people.
You can call Zardari Mr 10 percent,but I can tell you that even America, Canada, Europe and Japan have business promotion fees which authorities here restrict it to 5 percent.In Arab world, it is 15-20 percent otherwise who would feed those thousands of princes.
Nice people opt out of percentage game.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 24 October, 2008
From China via Pakistan
Zardari and Pak nation as whole may realize that there is God's hand in the making and action to sail Pakistan to better times that will beat the best of any other neighbour sans China.
China is on the verge of embarking on a major thrust into Africa and Middle East for energy marriage via Pakistan. There will be world class or even better trade flow between China and Africa-middle East.This will involve energy flow to China with intermediate value asdded processing (VAP) on Pak soil going China way and goods worth trillion dollars going out of China's Sinkiang province via Pak land route.Pak bad times are only transition and every God gifted and natural moods and modes of Pak great future are pointing promisingly to do mega benefits for Pakistan with near immediate prospects.China with huge Forex reserves of 2 trillion dollars will spend a part of it on via Pak economic boon and boom which will put China on very top of the world and make Pakistan fly on China's prosperty wings incomparable in soon coming times.
Willing or un-willing by friends and foes, these China related mega prospects are the shape of the things to come for Pakistan uplift.
There will be flow of consumer goods from China's Sinkiang province via Karakuram highway through Pakistan's Gawader port.And there will be oil and gas energy flow; of gas through pipe lines and value added refined products like gasoline,kerocene and other refined hydrocarbons on trucks and trains to Sinkiag province of China via KK highway.
IT WILL BE VERY IMPERATIVE NECESSITY TO REFINE THE CRUDE OIL AT GAWADER OR PUNJAB AND SHIP VALUE ADDED GASOLINE, KEROCENE AND OTHER LIGHT HYDOCARBONS TO CHINA WITH PREMIUM TRANSPORTATION SAVINGS AS HEAVY LEFT OVERS LIKE ASPHALT, PETROLEUM COKE ETC CAN BE MARKETED FROM PAKISTAN VIA SHIPS.ONE MILLION BARRELS OF REFINING IN PAKISTAN CAN GENERATE 50-60 BILLION DOLLARS REFINING RELATED ACTIVITY IN PAKISTAN ALL RELATED TO CHINA.IT COULD BE 2 MILLION BARRELS REFINING ACTIVITY EASILY AS CHINA IS EXPANDING ITS REFINING CAPACITY FROM 7 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY TO 12 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY OVER THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS.
REFINING OF OIL IN PAKISTAN WILL BE DIRE NECESSITY AS SHIPPING CRUDE OIL VIA KK HIGHWAY CAN CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER IN CASE OF SPILLAGE OR TRANSPORT ACCIDENT.IT IS DIFFICULT TO CLEAN CRUDE SPILLAGE MESS, BUT GASOLINE AND KEROCENE ETC SPILLAGE CAN DRY ON ITS OWN IN SHORT TIME.AND CHINA WILL HAVE NO OPTION OTHER THAN PUTTING UP POWER GENERATION FROM COAL IN PAKISTAN AS POWER WILL BE NEEDED BADLY TO RUN REFINERIES AND OTHER INDUSTRIES.NO INDUSTRY CAN FUNCTION WITHOUT POWER AND EVERY THING WILL HAVE MUTUAL SUPPORTIVE AND COMPLIMENTARY TO EACH OTHER TYPE BUILD UP IN PAKISTAN.
CHINA'S ENERGY AND GOODS MARRIAGE WITH AFRICA AND MIDDLE EAST HAS PAK ONLY PAK OPTION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. STRAIT OF MALLACCA IS GETTING SATURATED AND CANNOT HANDLE CHINA'S EXPANDING NEEDS ANY MORE.CHINA IS FULLY AWARE AND KNOWS WHICH FOREIGN COUNTRY WAS RESPONSIBLE IN MAKING THE SPOILS AND KILLING OF ITS ENGINEERS IN PAKISTAN AND NIGERIA FOR ITS MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA RELATED JUMP OFFS AND ECONOMIC LINKS.
CHINA'S EXPANSION TO 12 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY OF OIL REFINING AND THREE OR FOUR OF TRILLION CUBIC FEET PER YEAR GAS TRANSPORT PIPE LINES FROM RUSSIA,CENTRAL ASIA AND IRAN WILL BRING CHINA IN SUPER POWER STATUS. CHINA IS CALLED THE ENGINE OF ASIA NOW AND WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS CHINA WILL HAVE 12 MBPD OF OIL REFINING AND 12 TRILLION CUBIC FEET OF GAS INCLUDING 5 TCFY DOMESTIC PRODUCTION.FOUR GAS PIPE LINES(TWO FROM RUSSIAN GAS,ONE FROM TURKMANISTAN AND POSSIBLY ONE OR TWO OR HALF FROM IRAN VIA PAKISTAN)WILL BRING CHINA AND CHINA ALONE IN ASIA IN SUPER ECONOMIC POWER STATUS.AMERICA HAS 20 MBPD OIL REFINING AND 20 TRILLION CUBIC FEET OF GAS CONSUMPTION EVERY YEAR.RUSSIA ALSO PRODUCES AND USES UP ITS GAS RESERVES AT 20 TRILLION CUBIC FEET PER YEAR SIZE CAPACITY.
THE SPEED AT WHICH RUSSIA IS USING UP ITS GAS AND SAUDI ARABIA IS USING UP ITS OIL, IRAN IS SUPPOSED TO BECOME NUMBER ONE IN OIL AND GAS RESERVES FROM NUMBER TWO SPOT IN BOTH ESSENTIAL SOURCES BY 2035.
BY 2030 OR AROUND THAT TIME, IRAN IS SUPPOSED TO POSSESS ONE QUARTER OF THE WORLD'S TOTAL CONVENTIONAL OIL AND GAS.AND CHINA'S TRILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT THERE AND SAME AMOUNT IN AFRICA WILL BOOST ECONOMIES OF MIDDLE EAST,AFRICA AND CHINA TRADE EACILITATOR PAKISTAN.
YOU ARE TALKING OF HUMONGOUS DEVELOPMENT.DO NOT WORRY ABOUT INDIA, AS IT WILL HAVE VERY MARGINALIZING BEARING TO WHAT WILL GO ON BETWEEN CHINA AND PAKISTAN.
CHINA IS ALSO PREPARING RESCUE PACKAGE FOR PAKS SO THAT PAKISTAN DOES NOT HAVE TO ASSUME TRUCKLIG ROLE AND DICTATION FROM IMF.
THERE IS BIG HOPE IN THE AIR FOR PAKS.PAKS WILL EVEN GO TO MOON AND MARS ON CHINESE WINGS AND ACHIEVEMENT.LET OTHER ASIAN BIG ONES DO REMOTE CONTROL TOYS RUNNING ON THER MOON.LET PAKS BE ASPIRANTS ON CHINA'S REAL SPACE AND ENERGY RELATED BOOM MANOUVERING VIA PAKISTAN.
ALLAH BLESS PAK CHINA CO-OPERATION.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 26 October, 2008
Fairy Kashmira on roof top
Here is 100 lines poem to say that Kashmira is peace and not terror.
Peace and love is everywhere
Kashmira steps out of a cloud
And she comes from fairyland
Time is yes to feel so proud
Time for peace and for love
Loving so is watchful crowd
There is joy and great cheers
Happiness is blossoming loud
Kashmira brings peace to all
She is peace to all mankind
And Zardari talked so silly
She aint terror, she is kind
Wolves stay away from fairy
Kashmira fairy is sweet thing
Crown her as the fairy queen
Divine angel yes, be her king
Indian wolf and his brother
From Kashmira, stay away
Let none hurt Kashmira fairy
Stay, away from her, at bay
She's Pak love, she is bliss
And you give Kashmira kiss
Divine fairy, she is peace
Lovin her U wanna never miss
Ignore one, who is big a fool
Cause he never got a rule
Just ignore his silly talk
He's anti peace and not Pak
The Indian wolf N his brother
Scare them far away my friend
Kashmira is a harmless fairy
N with her no wolf will blend
Never let the wolf's fear
Come near our Kashmira dear
Kashmira fairy is so sweet
She is just our heart beat
Snakes bite, dogs will bark
Wolves may hide in the dark
Kashmira fairy flies around
On her wings she does embark
Brighter than sun is bright
Kashmira is a moon for sight
Fairy she is dish delish
Sweeter than a sweetest wish
Allah save her from bad eye
From Zardari's wrong a blame
Kashmira peaceful aint terror
What he said was only shame
Stay as grand and as discreet
Kashmira fairy, you are sweet
And we all peace lovers sing
Kashmira is no terror thing
Her and terror just don't mix
Only the crazy try admix
Crazy ones can just so think
My friends,just laugh N blink
Laugh away his silly talk
Laugh away, you each my Pak
Laugh at India, also worry
Indian wolves,em eat in hurry
Kashmira u be safe my friend
Stay alive till time will end
Kashmira you are lovable you
You are sweet heart,N so true
Love Kashmira N her stature
U got harmless human nature
Just ignore what fool did say
Terror aint Kashmira's way
Kashmira is the peace N love
The fairy is from sky above
Kashmira stepped out of cloud
Wanna take er away from crowd
Out of cloud,she hops to stop
And she lands on rooftop
Dear thing u are peace N love
From the clouds N sky above
On rooftop, you look so dear
Kashmira fairy,please be near
Beautiful thing,stay as U are
Stay divine,you love star
Rooftop fairy,she aint terror
One who said so, he was error
Error yes, we all agree
Kashmira, you are terror free
Fairy on roof top, come down
We know all terror,U do frown
Peace you are and also love
Kashmira U are harmless dove
Roof top fairy, you are smart
Love for you will never part
Dear you are our sweet heart
Never terror,right from start
To our fairy, yes we cling
Fly us on ur peace each wing
Make us just your angel lover
You got peace as true cover
Kiss of Sherry's lips of rose
Said u're innocent,so it goes
Us and Sherry, we all agree
Kashmira love is terror free
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 28 October, 2008
Jones the scared Indian spy
Mighty ones will eat Jones
Eat him,and crush his bones
Scared gives a chicken advice
Jones he got heart of mice
Afraid of China is Indian spy
Shits in pants,hear him cry
Jones he faints of China fear
China haunts him far and near
Tells us Paks, we must fear
China but to us is very dear
China's love we Paks so long
Won't hurt us, we do no wrong
Our China is sweet as honey
China gives us help and money
China sweet is spring flower
China is the April shower
China fearig Jones is crying
And in fear, he is dying
Paks with China are romancing
N with China Paks are dancing
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 28 October, 2008
Sherry corrects Zardari's wrong
Terror free Kashmira is kind
Agree with Sherry,Paks find
Love U are like sweet Sherry
Both u are like fruit cherry
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 28 October, 2008
Stay away from Mighty Ones
Lot of Chinese praises are going on. I would like to comment on little bit. Traditionally China is nobody's friend. All they have is business objective. Rather than investments in Pakistan for higher returns, what is the sort of help China has provided to Pakistan? Pakistan has given away Aksai Chin, one of the vital areas of the region to China. In return Pakistan received nuclear help from China, and everyone knew that, “Land for Technology”. That is Chinese style to conquer a nation.
If we look at world facts book, with these much of FOREX and being a top most economical power, how much help China have given to foreign nations (including Pakistan), in terms of money or food? A big “Zero”. Including disaster relief?
If china could prepare multiple billion rescue package for Pakistan now, it is timely and would be great help at the need of the hour. However, how long Pakistan is going to seek foreign help? Almost 5500 Canadian dollar is per capita spending on Canadian families for keeping Canadian army in Afghanistan. We are not very much comfortable of giving away that kind of Money, especially when we do not have any hidden objectives likes other nations. On top of that one Mullah is proposing to go get money from Canada…………are you serious?
Tit for tat space explorations between China and India had proved once again that Indians are competing with china.
We have to be very smart to pick our friends and foe. That's exactly NOT happening with Pakistan. Historically Pakistan failed to pick right friends and foes. Best friend for Pakistan was America, which proved to be wrong in Pakistani eyes and now talking about China, that's a grave mistake. The reality is no other nation like America in the entire human history to help other nations.
Pakistan picked India as their enemy and Indians outnumbered Pakistan in every aspect. Indians could afford the spending because they are in 4th rank in terms of foreign reserve. In order to catch up with Indians, Pakistan had to over spend on everything which ultimately leads to financial crisis, same we saw today. Stop day dreaming and get in to reality. No nation can live on borrowing or other nation's expense.
Without a solid objective, China won't spend even a penny on anyone. If someone is thinking different, it's lack of forecast. May be this time they may take away Karakorum highway from Pakistan.
My best advice is stay away from Mighty ones. Deal with equal powers. Otherwise you may end up taking dictations.
Jones, Canada - 28 October, 2008
Jones eats his own bones
"Again this Indian spy Jones
Yes, he eats his own bones"
I have caught this spy several times and bashed on his anti Pak and India soliciting letters of intrigue, deception, lies and disparaging hippocracy.
NO BODY WILL BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE WEDGE BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND CHINA AND BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE HAD BROTHERLY CO-OPERATION.PAKISTAN'S SURVIVAL NUCLEAR AND MISSILE PROGRAM, HEAVY INDUSTRY COMPLEX AND HOST OF OTHER GRAND PROJECTS SPEAK FOR THE TWO GRAND NEIGHBOURS COMING TOGETHER.
WHILE PAKISTAN IS PERSUING PEACE WITH ALL DESPITE UGLY INDIAN MEDDLING IN THE BALOCHISTAN AND NWEP THAT COST PAKS OVER THOUSAND MILITARY AND TWICE AS MANY CIVILIANS DEAD. AND THOSE CAUGHT RED HANDED WITH EXPLOSIVES HAVE EXPOSED THE UGLY INDIANS PLOTS.
AS THIS SELF BONES EATING JONES HAS ALLWAYS TRIED TO PROJECT INDIA AS VERY GRAND, THE FACTS SPEAK FOR OPPOSITE.CHINA'S FOREX RESERVES IS ALMOST TEN TIMES THE SIZE OF INDIA'S AND IT IS DEBT FREE AS INDIA HAS 200 BILLION DOLLARS FOREIGN DEBT BESIDES BIG INTERNAL DEBT AS WELL. IN FOREX RESERVES INDIA HAS LOST 40 BILLIONS$ IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH 18 BILLION DROP IN JUST LAST TWO WEEKS. INDIAN RUPEE HAS DROPPED FROM 39 RUPEES TO ALMOST 51 RUPEES TO THE DOLLAR IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.BESIDES INDIA SUFFERS FROM 100 BILLION DOLARS TRADE DEFICIT COMPARED TO CHINA'S 300 BILLION DOLLARS PLUS TRADE SURPLUS.JUST FEW DAYS AGO TAIWAN HAS TAKEN OVER INDIA IN FOREX RESERVES AND PUSHED IT TO FIFTH SPOT WITH MORE CLOSE FOLLOWERS MAINTAING THEIR FOREX RESERVES TO MOVE AHEAD OF INDIA.
THE MOST IMPORTANT MEASURE AND REAL TOOL NOWA DAYS OF A COUNTRY'S POTENTIAL OF GRANDNESS IS ITS ENERGY RESOURCES OF OIL AND GAS AND INDIA'S POSITION IS VERY DISMAL COMPARED TO BIG NATIONS BOTH IN RESERVES AND PRODUCTION AND POOR ENGINEERING FAILURES IN THEIR OIL PATCH.I HAVE WORKED AND PUBLISHED WORLD CLASS ENGINEERING PAPERS IN THE WORLD'S AND AMERICA'S LEADING PLACES AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT INDIAN ENGINEERS ARE VERY THEORETICAL TYPE AND TELL ME WHERE THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED IN MORE PRACTICAL OR PRODUCTION AREAS. SOFT WARE IS THING OF THE PAST.TODAY'S 80 PERCENT OR MORE INVESTMENT WORLD WIDE GOES INTO OIL AND GAS AND POWER.
SENDING REMOTE CONTROL SHOTS TO THE MOON DOES NOT PUT THE MAN ON MOON.AND NOTHING TO THAT CAN BE OF BIGGER INTEREST.
INDIA'S OIL REFINING CAPACITY IS BELOW 3 MBPD COMPARED TO CHINA'S 8 MBPD AND AMERICA'S 22 MBPD. IN GAS,INDIA IS EVEN BEHIND PAKS, LET ALONE THE BIG ONES.INDIA PRODUCES WAY LESS THAN ONE TRILLION CUBIC FT PER YEAR OR AS MUCH AS PAKISTAN DOES. AMERICA AND RUSSIA PRODUCE AND CONSUME 22-23 TCFY GAS AND CANADA, CHINA AND IRAN AND ALGERIA PROCESS 4-7 TCFY OF GAS.
I HAVE DONE BASHING OF THIS INDIAN SPY JONES AND I WILL KEEP DOING IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. NOW HE COMES FORWARD WITH DECEIVING AGENDA OF DRIVING WEDGE BETWEEN PAKS VERY GOOD FRIEND CHINA AND HE WILL BE MADE TO FAIL MISERABLY ON THIS AGENDA OF EVIL AS WELL.
THIS JONES WHO IS EATING HIS OWN BONES ALL THE TIME MUST FIRST STUDY THE FACTS ABOUT HOW MUCH CHINA HELPED PAKS.PAKS HAVE TO BEFRIEND CHINA TO KEEP JONES LIKE INDIAN AGENDAS AT BAY.
PAKISTAN HAS,IN THE PAST GOT HELP FROM AMERICA AND CANADA AS WELL AND WE WILL PERSUE MORE OF THAT.I HAVE HAD IMMEDIATE POST RETIREMENNT SUCCESS IN A PROJECT BETWEEN AMERICA AND MIDDLE EAST. EVEN A TINY TINY BITE OF THIS 6-8 BILLION DOLLARS PROJECT IS SHOWING TO SPIN OFF SEVERAL PROJECTS WHERE MY ENGINEERING IS GOING TO FACILITATE BETEEN CANADA, US AND MIDDLE EAST AND COULD HELP PAKS. PAKS WILL BE FRIENDS OF ALL BIG NATIONS AND WON'T PART FROM THE BIG ONES IN ORDER TO KEEP JONES INDIAN WOLVES AWAY.CHINA IS FAR TOO GRAND NOW.IT IS NOW CALLED THE ENGINE OF ASIA AND CHINA'S SUCCESS OVER INDIA BRINGS SECURITY TO PAKISTAN.
INDIA IS DEPENDENT TOO MUCH ON IMPORTED OIL AS 75 PERCENT OF ITS ENERGY BASKET, AS GAS PICTURE IS JUST ABOUT DISMAL FOR INDIA. AND US- INDIA NUCLEAR DEAL MAY REDRESS ONLY 5 PERCENT OF INDIA'S POWER NEEDS OR 1-2 PCENT OF ITS OVERALL ENERGY BASKET.8000 MEGAWATTS OUT OF 20 REACTORS OVER DECADES TO COME WILL ONLY REDRESS A VERY FRACTIONAL LOSS OF POWER DUE TO THE FACT THAT INDIA IS RUNNING OUT OF ITS POWER GENERATING COAL OVER THE NEXT 2 DECADES.PAKISTAN HAS 200 BILLION TONS OF COAL AND POSSESS THIS COMMODITY SECOND ONLY TO AMERICA'S 240 BILLION TONS.
AND INDIA IS MUCH MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO DTERIMENTAL EFFECTS ON ENERGY SECURITY IF THERE IS SERIOUS TROUBLE IN MIDDLE EAST.INDIA HAS OIL AS ALMOST 75 PERCENT OF ITS OVERALL ENERGY EQUATION. PAKISTAN DEPENDS ON OIL AS ONLY 35-40 PERCENT OF ITS OVERALL ENERGY PICTURE AS GAS PLAYS IMPORTANT AND BIGGER ROLE THAN OIL FOR PAKISTAN.
AND ALL ENERGY THINK TANKS ARE SAYING THAT INDIA HAS MISSED THE ENERGY BOAT. JUST GO AND STUDY HOW,AFTER AMERICA'S LEAD, CHINA IS KICKIN INDIA'S BUTTS IN PLACES LIKE SUDAN, PARTS OF MIDDLE EAST, SYRIA AND MANY OTHER GLOBAL ENERGY COMPETITION SPOTS.
INDIAN ENGINEERS ARE VERY THEORETICAL AND ARE GOOD FOR GONE BY SOFT WARE HEY DAYS.
FUTURE IS ALL ABOUT ENERGY AND WE SPEND ON ENERGY MOST.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 28 October, 2008
Chinese President Hu Jintao announced in New York on 14 September 2005, within the next three years (i.e. by 2008), China will provide 10 billion US dollars in concessional loans and preferential export buyer's credit to developing countries to improve their infrastructure and promote cooperation between enterprises on both sides. HAVE ANYONE KNOWS IT'S DONE? NOTHING!
He continued: China will, in the next three years, increase its assistance to developing countries, African countries in particular, by providing them with anti-malaria drugs and other medicines, helping them set up and improve medical facilities and training medical staff. Specific programs will be implemented through such mechanism as the Forum on China-Africa Cooperation as well as bilateral channels. DO ANYONE KNEW IT'S DONE? NOTHING! This is exactly the Chinese model. They do not believe in providing financial assistance but they believe in providing a system. That won't help Pakistan now.
He said China will help train 30,000 personnel of various professions for developing countries within the next three years so as to help relevant countries to speed up their human resources development. HAVE ANYONE KNOWS IT'S DONE? Yes, they are doing it and one of them is Pakistan, which they are providing training (Especially on Telecom), but no financial help though. That is Chinese model help.
Please look at some facts after president Zardari initiated FoP (Friends of Pakistan):
Does anyone know how much help Pakistan sought from Saudi Arabia? Requested to write of Oil bills, which is got denied by Saudi Arabia. Not only that, Saudi reiterated that “no money, no oil” and stressed to be on time on payments. Pakistan requested for 2 billion financial aids that got denied. Asked for long term loan and got denied. It is imperative to remember the facts that Saudi Arabia executes more human beings each year than any other nations. Sadly, most of them are Pakistani citizens. No Question asked.
If Pakistan has sold Aksai Chin, piece by piece to anyone, it would have made billions. It has given to China (for Free), and in return obtained some nuclear helps. Someone here in this discussion has mentioned, China is preparing a financial aid / long term loan for Pakistan. Official Chinese news papers are also said the same. Good news..eh! Wait. If that is true and believable, then why could Pakistan to go behind of IMF (for 300 million) and World Bank (for multi Billion dollars)? President Zardari and others knew there won't be any such help from China.
Now, look at this real friend: 1971, Pakistan sought help from China (During war) and got denied by them. Pak sought help from China to block the NSG approval (2008) for India, got it denied, or they couldn't succeed. China wants to sell off their FC1 fighter flight, (originally MIG 21 Bison, for which then President Musharaff visited Moscow to lift a ban on re-exporting 51A Scramjet Engine (Russian made) from China to Pakistan) and make some money from Pakistan. That is not Help. That is looting money, by misguiding a long trusted friend. They wanted to sell this outdated Mig21 bison (painted as FC1 or “Thunder”) to a trusted friend. Pakistan was in a deep trouble that they couldn't even come out from the Chinese trap. For some reason it got stalled.
China won't risk their India – China Bilateral trade volume of 38.7 billion U.S. dollars (in 2007), which is growing 30 percentage by every year. In comparison, Pakistan's exports to China amounted to $575.903 million as compared to the imports from China of $3.533 billion leaving a trade deficit of $2.957 billion during the last fiscal year (2007).
I have said enough to emphasis Chinese business mind (the real trap). Now, how could a common man think that China would risk 38.7 Billion annul bilateral trade with India for just 3.533 billion. Any thoughts? For China, India is more important than Pakistan at any means. Chinese are real business people, not helping people.
Jones, Canada - 29 October, 2008
Jones is Indian spy
After eating his own bones
He talks crazy,u hear Jones
Stung by his own hair snakes
His own stings, see he takes
O,he cries spirits N sprays
Mad, he got his mad man ways
To my loved China he tells
China cat be tied with bells
Jones is silly Indian spy
And he's got now mad man cry
He is fool with his pretend
He's Pak enemy, not a friend
China-Pak friends are sweet
N they kick Jones for treat
Jones the spy, so he tells
Tie on China cat the bells
Jones the Indian spy is rat
He's scared of China cat
Jones talks of silly ways
All can laugh on what he says
Next u'll see Jones the mouse
He be caged in mental house
China to us paks is dear
Jones now got China's fear
Paks see China with love eyes
Makes Jones,yes,blue in cries
Between us is jealous Jones
Let him eat his own bones
With his so intriguing do's
Jones is booted,N with shoes
China my dear, u be amazed
Hear mad Jones,see him crazed
Forget Jones,think of skies
Think Kashmira's blue eyes
Love Pak-China friendly pair
Love China,yes,Paks do care
This lonesome mad dog Jones is trying his unsuccessful intrigues to drive wedge between the China-Pak sweet friendship.And on top of that, he is trying to deceive by aligning India and China against Paks as his farse agenda.
This sick man, who is real Indian spy,is hell bent on maligning Paks.And i would like to state facts that annul this exalted character Jones, who loves eating his own bones.
Size of business does'nt mean a darn thing when you have a common adversary.All of China's nukes from Tibet and from a big naval base in Indian ocean have only one target and every body knows what that specific target is.
Chinese energy related engineering is grinding Indians in every global competition.Chines engineers are very practical and not theoretical ones like the Indians. They have even taken life risks to jump into dangerous energy related tasks in middle east, Sudan and elsewhere, whereas Indian engineers were flop as they get glued to their chairs as if they were on software jobs.
China is about to use Pakistan as bridge for its energy and other trade connections to Africa and middle east via Pakistan.
China made Pakistan a secure country by giving Paks help to have Paks survival defense of 60-100 nukes as comparable to India that has seven times more people and size of the economy compared to Pakistan. China gave heavy industry complex to Pakistan and is building more nuclear reactors for Paks to offset India-US nuclear pact's future detrimental modes.
This evil spy of India, I mean that ever barking Jones wants Saudi brothers of Paks to isolate Pakistan as well.His dreams of all ganging up on Paks will die in his own shit along with his evil thoughts.
China has marginalized India on all competitions.China has done a marvellous strategy to consolidate its Forex reserves at around 2 trillion dollars by staying put out of commodity trades , whereas India is lately loosing 8-10 billion dollars a week of its Forex reserves.With 10 to 1 edge over india in Forex reserves,with trade surplus of 300 billion dollars per annum compared to India's deficit of 100 billion dollars yearly, with cash to secure and actually securing oil reserves globally through its largest cash reserves in the world, by building Gawader poert in Pakistan as a trade launch pad to link up with middle east, Africa and central Asia, China is becoming the only engine of Asia.China is the sole winner in Asia and is the future's super and sole super power.China is working on ten pronged strategy that will soon enable China to have oil refining capacity of 12 million barrels per day and gas consumption of over 10 trillion cubic feet.
CHINA'S INCOMPARABLE SUCCESS IN ASIA IS CONSTRICTING, CONSTRAINING AND LIMITING INDIA TO THE FAILED STATUS OF BECOMING A SUPER POWER.WITH CHINAS GRAND SUCCESS OF ATTRACTING MOST OF ASIA'S FINANCE, BUSINESS, FOREX RESERVES, ENERGY RESOURCES AND MILITARY MIGHT, CHINA IS OCCUPYING AND ENGAGING INDIA TO GET ENGROSSED WITH ITS CHINA COMPARED DRAGS AND THAT DOES LEAVE PAKISTAN PROTECTED FROM INDIAN HARM WAYS, THAT WOULD HAVE FINISHED OFF PAKISTAN BY NOW IF WAS SANS CHINA.
PAKISTAN FEELS MUCH SECURE WITH FRIENDLY TIGER STANDING NEXT TO HARMFUL WOLF.
MASSIVE PLANNING IS GOING ON TO BUILD RAIL TRUCKS AND PIPE LINE TRANSPORT INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH KK HIGHWAY ROUTE.PAK-CHINA TRADE OF FUTURE IS NATURAL MARRIAGE BETWEEN TWO GREAT AND AMICABLE NEIGHBOURS--PAKISTAN AND CHINA.
THROUGH MUTUAL FRIENDSHIP, TRUST AND WORKING TOGETHER, PAK-CHINA ARE ON THEIR WAY TO REACH FOR THE SKIES.
SPY JONES WILL NEVER LEARN
AND, IN HATE, HE WILL BURN.
NO SPECULATION,AND NO GUESS
PAK AND CHINA,GOD WILL BLESS
FRIENDSHIP BASED NOT ON GREED
PAK AND CHINA GOT MUTUAL NEED
JONES THE INDIAN SPY CAN CRY
PAK-CHINA LIFT ALOFT TO SKY
PAK AND CHINA ARE THE FRIENDS
GOT MUTUAL CARE N NO PRETENDS
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 29 October, 2008
Give him a chance
Lets help him and see as to what he does?
He is going to bail us out by bringing all his foriegn accounts that I am told run in billions,to bail us out from the economic situation.
He has a heart of GOLD.
He loves Pakistan as Pakistan has made him a very rich man.
He will ask the awaam to give him ideas and suggestions to make Pakistan the worlds richest nation,InshaAllah.
I am sure all PPP voters shall dish out any amount he asks for.
What to say of all his friends world over too.
The slogan:Roti,Kapra and Makaan shall be given free to all the poor as promised,just help him stand on his two feet and see the charima he has over all.
I wish and pray he does what people expects of him and take the duas of all garibs.
I am sure BB's assets too can be a help too,as she is no more with us,sure he is gonna distribute all amongst the poor,so that her soul may rest in peace,Amen.
The awaam can help too if he doubles their money in form of certificate or any other form of investments that doubles their money --like you invest one Rs and you get two in return.
There are means and ways people comeup with ideas why not the PPP to help the poor?
I wish him luck for sure Pakistan needs bail out plan and its the President who can do it.
Rehana Safia Abdi, Pakistan - 29 October, 2008
Jones the Indian liar spy
CHINA DRAGON KEEPS THE WOLF AWAY
AND KEEPS THE WOLF AWAY AT BAY
CHINA LOVE IS SWEETER THAN HONEY
PAKS SAY FROM HEART, CHINA WEATHER IS SUNNY
THE INDIAN SPY JONES IS WOLF AT HOWL
BUT CHINESE DRAGON WILL NEVER PROWL
THE INDIAN WOLF IS ONE TO BEAT
BUT CHINESE DRAGON IS SWEET SWEET SWEET
SEE THE DRAGON AT WOLF DOES STARE
HE'LL EAT THE WOLF, WOLF JUST WON'T DARE
THAT INDIAN SPY JONES TALKS ALL LIE
PAKS WONT PART FROM DRAGON AND DIE
SO STICK TO CHINESE DRAGON MY FRIEND
HE LOVES PAKS, GOT NO WOLF'S PRETEND
PAKS FROM WOLF GOT MUCH OF HURT
WITH WOLF, FOR LIFE SAKE, PAKS NEVER FLIRT
JUST KICK THE BASTARD JONES IN BUTTS
TELL HIM, WE'LL TAKE OUT, OUT HIS GUTS
BASTARD TALKS HIS CUNNING DECEPTIONS
WON'T SLEEP WITH WOLF EVEN WITH EXCEPTIONS
TELL HIM TO F*** OFF, HE IS LIE
DON'T LISTEN TO HIM, HE'S INDIAN SPY
Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 29 October, 2008
Don't Count on China, Waste of Time
Here are few coal data:
[My source is: http://www.gsp.gov.pk/resources/seminars2.htm]:
Pakistan has emerged as one of the leading country - seventh in the list of top 20 countries of the world after the discovery of huge lignite coal resources in Sindh. The economic coal deposits of Pakistan are restricted to Paleocene and Eocene rock sequences. Economists say that the energy demand over the next 5 years is expected to grow at a rate of 7.4 % per annum. It may be noted that in India the share of coal is as high as 54.5% in the total energy mix. To meet the future requirements of the country with indigenous resources, domestic exploration would have to be intensified to increase the share of coal from 5 to 25% by 2020.
Coal -the black gold is found in all the four provinces of Pakistan. Country has huge coal resources, about 185 billion tons, out of which 3.3 billion tons are in proven/measured category and about 11 billions are indicated reserves, the bulk of it is found in Sindh province. THE CURRENT TOTAL MINE-ABLE RESERVES OF COAL ARE ESTIMATED AT 2 BILLION TONES (60 % OF THE MEASURED RESERVES). I am leaving up to the readers to compare GSP data with self professed engineer's (lies) data.
Thar coal is turning into another Kalabagh dam, because of huge resistance from the province of Sindh. Every move done by federal government to tap coal has been stalled because of a strong opposition from the province. They fear that it's a Panjabi conspiracy to take away their wealth as they have already witnessed in Chenab water shortage (Panjab stoles water from river Chenab and blame India)
Coming back to China: Chinese are masters of reverse engineering. They steal technology from West and East then produce cheap out of date toys and products. They produce contaminated food. In US, Europe and Canada every month our governments are banning at least 2-5 Chinese products. America and Canada is full of Chinese made non-environmental friendly products. Especially most or all Chinese toys contain lead, one of the non standard and poisonous substance.
Other than some rich “heritage and noodles”, Chinese innovation is measured as “ZERO” to the world. There are Indian scientists with Nobel Prize in Physics. If I am not wrong, Mr. CV Raman an Indian physicist who was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on the molecular scattering of light and for the discovery of the Raman Effect, which is named after him. Is there any Chinese? No one that I know.
Indian space exploration is one of the best in the world. They are the only country could launch 11 or 12 satellite in a single launch vehicle. They knew how to hide their technology and activities from the satellite eyes in the sky. E.g. India has hidden their nuclear explotion of May 1988 from US / World satellites. Where as US satellites picked up all Chinese activities in Pakistan during Pakistan's nuclear testing, and US has provided the head counts as well.
Indian's doesn't do what others are doing. Indian technology is superior to Chinese technology and up to the standard of any other nation. Its worth to be noted for an example, Indians was not inferior in nuclear technology. The issue they had was lack of nuclear fuel. They are trying to move from uranium reactors to Thorium, because India has plenty of thorium, which is several times more than any other or all other nations combined. India – US nuclear deal provides them enough time to breathe and develop Thorium based reactors. That is the major reason; they are not aggressive to tap or engage oil and gas resources around the world, unlike China. They knew what they are doing and they are doing according to a charted plan. They backed from IPI (Which was easily available or offered to them and still they don't want to join), because of these reasons. Also, in terms of natural gas resources, they have plenty of gas reserves (Konkan Base) and recently started small scale production.
Coal: India produces enough coal, and they do export as well. In China, they loose average 3000 lives every year on coal mine related issues. In India, it's Zero. So whose technology is better? By the way, open pit coal mining is very challenging in most of the Sindh / Thar reserves, because of wet lands and loose sands. And most of the coal beds are 150 meter to 1 km deep.
Indian space exploration is especially for bringing H3 (Helium3) from moon. They have planned for first manned moon mission by 2020 and Chinese plan is by 2024. India targeted first moon mission by 2010, but they were 2 years early by Chandrayan1 (2008). If they say 2020, it could be by 2015 or at least by 2018. SO FAR CHINA COULDN'T STEAL APOLLO 11'S BLUE PRINT FROM AMERICA FOR A POSSIBLE REVERSE ENGINEERING and THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BEHIND.
China won't help anyone, without personal business objective. So, President Zardari and PM Gilani shall concentrate on getting out money from IMF, WB or European Union.
Jones, Canada - 30 October, 2008