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Torturing Iraqi Prisoners - Who's responsible ?

02 May, 2004

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The whole world is outraged by the pictures broadcasted on all major media networks, showing coalition forces torturing Iraqi prisoners in an inhumane and disgusting manner.


President George W. Bush also expressed "deep disgust" at the reported US abuse of Iraqi prisoners and said that stern action would be taken against the individuals responsible for these despicable acts.

"I share a deep disgust that those prisoners were treated the way they were treated," Bush said at the White House. "I didn't like it one bit. "Their treatment does not reflect the nature of the American people,"

Chief of the General Staff of Britain, General Sir Michael Jackson also raised his voice against British Soldier involved in similar inhumane acts:

"If this is proven, the perpetrators are not fit to wear the Queen's uniform. They have besmirched the good name of the Army and its honour."


1. Do you think such pictures would help coalition forces to win the hearts of Iraqis ?


2. Do these pictures somehow reflect the overall morale of coalition forces in Iraq ?


3. Who should be responsible for such inhumane acts of coalition forces in Iraq ?



Picture Courtesy Daily Mirror : URINATED ON: A British soldier urinates on an Iraqi prisoner in a vile display of abuse. The captive was beaten and hurled from a moving truck. Army chiefs are investigating.

Reader Comments:

Give me a break

Educated worldly people don't automatically condemn millions of people based on the actions of a few.
We've heard on the news of the innocent people who are slaughtered in their houses of Worship in Pakistan due to the Muslin vs Christian conflict. Should I now believe that all Pakistanis are religious fanatics who carry out violent murders on each other? How about the India, Pakistan nuclear crisis which could result in millions of deaths.
Don't be such hypocrites. If you have no sins, throw the first stone, but be careful because you live in a glass house.
I believe those who criticize all Americans had already been doing so. If this scandal had not happened, I'm sure they would have found something else.


Robert, United Kingdom - 10 May, 2004

More imbeciles join the asylum

Friends, let us face the miserable fact that the exposure of U.S and allied physical and psychlogical torture is a disaster, for those concerned (both captive and captor), and for hopes of a sane resolution of the Iraqi imbroglio.
Recovery will only be possible after the American people reject the current administration. That this behavior has been sanctioned at the highest levels cannot be doubted. It has the unmistakable signature of "psy-ops" devised by 'experts' in the Pentagon, approved by the Secretary of Defense, and quite probably by the President. If the American people don't cast Bush out in November, then the - pardon me - excreta will be well and truly in the fan, and we will be forced to endure much more than has hitherto passed.
May I be forgiven my cynicism if I say that there may yet be a ray of light in today's clouds: that the civilised people of the world unite in their rejection of torture and psuedo-judicial abuse. Unhappily, much of the reaction from your readers suggests that their anger is limited to American torturers, and their sympathy to Islamic victims. You may be sure there is widespread revulsion in my country as these revelations, but do you understand that we see this as an affront to humanity, not to any religion?

Larry Cook, Aruba - 10 May, 2004

HM, Pakistan

HM from Pakistan, that is a really funny comment from you and SIJ. I am from Pakistan and I know exactly how much addiction Pakistanis have. If US society was so bad Pakistanis and arabs would not immigrate in millions to US.
If i start writing in details about sex industry and addiction in Pakistan, my letter would not be published.
By the way did Pakistanis ever apologized for atrocities in Bangladesh by Pak Army?

Sammy Jabareen, Canada - 10 May, 2004

ALL THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES,THEIR HEAD OF STATE ARE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AMERICAN TORTURE.AMERICAN FORCES REACHED IRAQ VIA MUSLIM COUNTRIES,AND THEY ALLOWED THEM.WHY???????

KHALID AWAN, Pakistan - 10 May, 2004

forget that these prisoners support terrorests in some form or another.lets worry more for them ,then innocent people that their actions and support have brought death to. prison is supposed to be bad its not a summer vacation. lets also forget how they drag, torture, burn our troops.i wish tree huggers would keep their noses out of war.war is not a pretty picture

, United Kingdom - 10 May, 2004

Evil acts...

Evil acts are just as evil no matter wich side that execute them. It is just simpl plane eveil acts that allmost all men and women (muslim or not)in a extreme and inhuman situation can do...

Arve yan, Norway - 11 May, 2004

KHALID AWAN, Pakistan

KHALID AWAN from Pakistan,
Who is responsible for daily torture carried out by Pakistani police every day in ever police station across Pakistan? Have you ever raised voice for inncent Pakistanis that are beaten and tortured in Pakistani jails by Police.
Prisoners in Iraq are not POW's they are detainees and are not protected under Geneva Convention.
You have no right to criticize US and keep mouth shut for Police torture in Pakistan.

Sammy Jabareen, Canada - 11 May, 2004

I must ask the same questions now regarding the cowardly Muslims whom have beheaded the innocent American who was in Iraq to help rebuild the country?

1. Do you think such pictures would help Muslims to win the hearts of Iraqis ?


2. Do these pictures somehow reflect the overall morale of Muslims in Iraq ?


3. Who should be responsible for such inhumane acts of Muslims in Iraq ?


Chris, United Kingdom - 11 May, 2004

The new common statement of the American college student is: I'm moving to another country.

Why is this? Because the United States has become a place in which only one religion is right. Because we fail to recognize all of our atrocities. We ignored the Holocaust until the very end. We ignore Africa even now. We claim to be international "friendly" but we don't care a fig about the UN( which we started) and other countries. We press our ideals onto a culture who does not want or need our ideals. Help? Yes. they need help to remember that Islam granted women property rights, the right to learn and own a business, the right to control her own desitiny.

Young Americans have lost their idealism. They are cynical and growing tired of the constant red tape.

J~, United Kingdom - 12 May, 2004

Fixed picture

Why do you continue to try and disturb people with a picture that is not what you represent? THis is someone pouring water on a prisoner, obviously, but is NOT what you allege...this is not someone urinating on anyone.

Use a phto editor and you will find that the person with the "water" would have to be urinating from his stomach at the angle of the waters fall. While we do not know the entire basis of this picture, and I do NOT condone any brutality any Americam has conducted on any prisoner, we have to be careful in what we bse our decisions upon...

Cop in Afghanistan, United Kingdom - 13 May, 2004

dont let madness take over

i am an indian hindu and have seen muslims at close quarters.my best friends r muslims and i love them more than my life.
but 1 thing needs to be said . u guys r good only o ur kind and believe that god is on ur side whatever u do. anything happening anywhere is an ''assault on islam!''.
in todays world muslims r far behind in terms of education and the love that needs to arise from it.
pictures of atrocities by a few americans makes ur heart boil. just imagine what would happen if there were photos of what muslim tyrants did to the hindus and did so for some 700 years!!
thousands of our temples were broken down and lakhs were convered to ur religion at the point of a sword.
DO U EVER TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS??????

shiva, Hungary - 04 March, 2005

NO UNITY IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!!

ITS SOMETHING TO WONDER REALLY!!???

ALL THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES SHOULD FORGET THEIR DIFFRENCES AND RAISE VOICE AGAINST ALL EVIL, WHAT THEY ARE FORGETING IS OVERALL ITS A WAR BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND EVIL CHRISTIANS NOTING ELSE,
I RESPECT THERE RELIGION BUT I LOVE MINE MORE,

"ALLAH IS GREAT" WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS IN A MORE EFFECTIVE AND PLANNED MANNER W.O WHICH GOING FURTHER LOOKS ONLY SLAVERY!!!

PEACE BE UPON THOSE WHO FAVOR THE RIGHT

-SADDAM WAS WRONG BUT THAT SHOULD BE SORTED OUT WITHIN THE ARAB WORLD,
-SAUDI IS PROUD AND RICH INFLUENCED BU AMERICANS
-PAKISTAN (YES DOING SOMETHING)
-IRAN(YES DOING SOMETHING)
-IRAQ(TAKEN OVER)
-JORDEN(IN CRISIS )
-KUWAIT(TAKEN OVER BY AMERICANS)
-AFGANISTAN(U KNOW IT, AMERICAN RULE)
-QATAR(AMERICANS RULE)
-RUSSIAN MUSLIM STATES(CRISIS)
-UAE (BUSY MAKING MONEY)
-BAHRAIN(TRYING TO BECOM UAE)
ECT..

IN SHORT "NOTHING IS GOING RIGHT"

Worried Young Muslim -Saud Dastagir(India), Hungary - 08 August, 2005

According to some these pictures should not be shown to the world because these heinous acts have been committed by the so-called champions of human rights. This type of pictures should only be displayed when similar crimes are committed by the opponents of those fake champions of human rights. If any Muslim commits any terrorist act every Muslim in the world becomes a terrorist suspect in the eyes of the west, but when troops under the direct command of their political and military leaders commits heinous crimes they do not reflect the mindset of the western society, it is really an irony! Westerners and especially the Americans, are indeed champions of hypcrisy, hatred and deception. They are also the champions in the art of extermination( Americans have successfully exterminated the native Indians and Hitler tried to exterminate the jews).

Tarek Masud, Bahrain - 29 November, 2005

Unless Muslims UNITE under ISLAM The Torture and Sufferings would Continue from The WEST versus ISLA

Bismillah Airahaman Airahiem

Assalam-o-Alikum,

Unless Muslims UNITE under ISLAM The Torture and Sufferings would Continue from The WEST versus ISLAM.
The WEST want's to keep Muslims ONLY to SERVE The WEST The same was in The Colonial-Times and The same is Now under Economical-Times The WEST has brought The Polution through THEIR Technology The WEST is responsible for The World-INFLATION and through The Weapons-Sales to Other Countries whom are Politically Put to Fight each other so that USA could sell The F16 to Turkey and also Grece while BOTH Turkey and Grece are Members of NATO Why NATO Forces from Grece are NOT SENT TO AFGHANISTAN or IRAQ under The Americans to Clean-Dirty-War-Work of USA ?
Is The NATO working for The ISLAM-Defence or The WEST-Offence ? Is The UNO for The Human-Rights or The American-Rights ? Is The WEST Culture or WEST Society against The ISLAM Customs or ISLAM Community ? The History is Answer between The WEST and ISLAM that The Prisoners under ISLAM were TREATED so good that They choosed to become Muslims and Fought for The Freedom of Humanity along with Muslims under The ISLAM-Flag but now Muslims are Defending The American-Flag and since Colonial-Times Colonial-Masters Flags Read The Book "Friends Not Masters"
Muslims MUST Understand that ALLAH(s.w.t) is ABOVE all of USA=UNO of WEST=EAST and NORTH=SOUTH Political Issuances and This one could Understand Only from The Teachings of ISLAM Read Quran also with The Translations so that one Understand's The REAL Basics of ISLAM that ISLAM has got No-Compromise on ISLAMIC-BASICS and that ISLAM is The Voice of FREEDOM and ISLAM is INDEPENDENT and ISLAM is UNIQUE and ISLAM is JUSTICE and ISLAM is The Best SYSTEM and ISLAM is The Best LAW and ISLAM is The Best MORAL and ISLAM is from The Day-One till The Day-Last and ISLAM is The Code of Ethics and ISLAM is The Only Way to Govern thus Only ISLAMIC Governement can Control The Situations and Not The Secular System. The Justice to POW (Prisioners of War) has been Mal-Practiced under The Europeans. Umer Mokhtar who rose against The Italians and Western Powers in Libya is called The Desert-Lion The Tipu-Sultan Lion of India against The British-Colonization and Yesser Arafat The Lion of Palestine against The Western-Zionism and Now ISLAM has to Fight The Western-Capitalism because The WEST is contra ISLAM The WEST is again Trying to Capture OPEC via NATO because The WEST think's that The Might is Right while Right has to be The Might.

Mr.F.Koch(IPN)


Al-Haj.Mr.F.Koch(Chairperson & Founder of Islamitische Partij Nederland), Netherlands - 12 January, 2006

its amazing how people sit around and just bash the united states like we are the worst type of people. i love how the world expects to hold the us to a higher morale standard then they hold to themselves. they want the u s to respect everything about them but we get no respect for our western customs. i love how the u s is the reason for everything bad that happens but there bad goverment never is the problem. i read how the us is the wild wild west but the muslim countries give guns to kids for protection or just fun. i get tired of hearing of how bad the ARMY and goverment of the us is so bad but what about your goverment. people just wanna tryu to make the us be the devil. were not the devil when we deliver aid and supplies or protect peoplefrom invasions.

, United Kingdom - 16 March, 2006

America, MTV, etc

Please do not believe that all americans condone the behavior of hollywood, mtv, or other TV shows. MANY of us DESPISE American television, MTV, and the sex that goes on. Many of us struggle to teach our children decent good morals when we are surrounded by FILTH, even in our own school systems!!! Many of us have opted to yank our children OUT of american schools and home school them. MANY of us completely disagree with how America is represented on television, politics, and religion. Please do not put all of us in that category. Many of us are hard working citizens who try to do our best, mind our own business, and do what we believe is right. Do not think American citizens believe our country is healthy. MILLIONS of us believe we live in a very sick, addicted, infested society which sorely needs God's help.

Nancy, United Kingdom - 20 June, 2006

stop the war

(the words which nosterdamus has said quite true,but our work is to stop the war.like how lincoln stopped)<sultan>

mohammed sultan, Canada - 28 July, 2006

Mr.F.Koch(IPN) Resentment of the West

It is amazing to me how a person who despises the west so much and who feels such ansgt and emotional mullings for the Muslim world should choose to live in a western country like the Netherlands.
Hypocracy knows no bounds!!! Keep writing words like this ,amigo, and they will surely put you in a straight jacket Mr. Koch of the Islamyis Blah Blah..or whatever of the Nederlands.

Ale, Marshall Islands - 01 January, 2007

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