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The Judgment.

28 September, 2007

Following a nerve-shattering legal battle, Pakistan’s Supreme Court has allowed the country’s military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf to contest the presidential election in uniform, which is scheduled to be held on October 6.

"The petitions hereby are dismissed as not maintainable" announced Justice Rana Bhagwandas, the head of the panel of nine judges hearing a string of petitions challenging the re-election of General Musharraf in uniform for next five-year term.

Six of the nine-judge larger bench gave verdict in favor of dismissing the petitions while other three judges, including Justice Rana Bhagwandas, differed.

As soon as the verdict was announced, the lawyers present in the courtroom shouted “shame shame” slogans, and anti-Musharraf slogans, forcing the judges to leave the courtroom in a hurry.

Opposition supporters threw rotten eggs and tomatoes at the imposing marble court building in Islamabad and chanted "Shame! Shame!" and "Go, Musharraf, go!" after the verdict was announced.

"This is not a Supreme Court judgment. This is a written judgment received by the judges from the president house”, Ali Ahmed Kurd, a senior legal expert, and senior vice president of the Supreme Court Bar Association said.

Justice rtd Wajihuddin Ahmad, who is contesting General Musharraf in upcoming presidential election says “ I am disappointed. The Supreme Court’s judgment is the sequel of its traditions . General Musharraf is not allowed to contest the election in uniform in line with the constitution. If the court has allowed a government servant and a sitting army chief to contest election, then it has to give the same right to all the government employees and army officers”.

“This is surprising that the court took 11 days to decide whether these petitions are maintainable or not. This can be decided within a day or two. Then why did the court take 11 days to only decide about the maintainability of the petitions. If the court had to decide about these petitions on technical basis, then it must have been decided on the first day. This is unbelievable that after hearing of 11 days, the court simply declared the petitions non-maintainable without citing even a single reason”, he maintained.

Here are some questions
1)What is your opinion about this judgment?
2)Has the dictatorship has won once again?
3) Is this judgment another sequel of Justice Muneer’s judgment?
4)Is the game over for anti-Musharraf forces?
5)Are their any options left for APDM to stop Musharraf from getting re-elected by current assemblies?

Reader Comments:

SC judgement must be respected

THE SUPREME COURT HAS ACTED AS IT IS FAIR AND BEST FOR THE COUNTRY ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTACES THAT ARE CONFRONTING PAKISTAN DUE TO ITS TENSE GEO STRATEGY.

THE PAKISTAN SC HAS ACTED KEEPING IN ABREAST THE NATION'S LAWS OF THE LAND.

THE SC DOES NOT HAVE TO APPEASE THE LAWYERS AND THEIR HOOLIGAN ACTS. NOR SC IS THERE TO APPEASE THE SAME LAWYERS AND POLITICIANS TIME AFTER TIME. IF THOSE VESTED INTERESTS AND LAWYERS ARE UPSET AND FRUSTRATED AND ARE READY TO DO SILLY HOOLIGAN TYPE ACTS,THEY MUST BE IGNORED.SC IS ABOVE LAWYERS.EVEN IN AMERICA OR CANADA EVERY LAWYER BOWS TO THE SC JUDGEMENT EVEN IF IT IS AGAINST THE LAWYER'S CLIENT. HE SIMPLY DOES NOT GO TO STREET TO DO DEMONSTRATION AGAINST THE JUDGEMENT.NO BODY CAME ON THE STREET WHEN SC JUDGED IN FAVOUR OF THE CJP.

THESE LAWYERS BETTER REIGN ON THEMSELVES.THE LAWYERS MOVEMENT HAS ALREADY LOST ITS STEAM.THEY GET BACK TO HONEST WORK LIKE OTHER MORE USEFUL PROFESSIONALS,WHO ARE THE NATION'S DOCTORS, ENGINEERS, SCIENTISTS, ACCOUNTANTS, PROFESSORS, TEACHERS, TECHNOCRATS AND OTHERS.

HERE ARE MY ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AS SUCH:

1)What is your opinion about this judgment?

SC IS THE NATIONS HIGHEST AUTHORITY AND THE JUDGEMENT MUST BE RESPECTED AS NO BODY TRIED TO STOP CJP FROM GETTING BACK TO WHERE HE BELONGED.I AND MOST OTHERS DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR ARE UNAWARE OF THE LAWS OF THE LAND AND THE COMPELLING NEEDS TO JUSTIFY THE JUDGEMENTS.I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE IS COMMON SENSE IN CHALLENGING THIS JUDGEMENT AND WE MUST ACCEPT MUSHARRAF AS THE NATION'S JUSTICE AT TOP WANTS THE NATION TO ACCEPT ITS RULING.

2)Has the dictatorship has won once again?

IT IS NOT THE MATTER OF DICTATORSHIP WINNING OR LOOSING. IT IS THE VERDICT OF THE SUPREME JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN.YOU CANNOT POLITICIZE THINGS. WE JUST CANNOT POLITICIZE THESE SC RELATED ISSUES. NOW, YOU WOULD FOOLISHLY SAY THAT THE DICTATORSHIP LOST WHEN CJP WAS RE-INSTATED.

LET US BE SENSIBLE AND NOT BE POLITICAL ANIMALS.WE CAN CONGRATULATE MUSHARRAF AS A PERSON AND NOT AS A DICTATOR OVER THIS JUDGEMENT OF THE NATION'S TOP MOST LEGAL DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND THE JUDGEMENT COMING FROM THERE.THE SAME WAY PEOPLE MUST HAVE CONGRATULATED CJP AS A PERSON HAVING WON HIS LEGAL AND NOT POLITICAL FIGURED RIGHTS OR CASE.

3) Is this judgment another sequel of Justice Muneer’s judgment?

YOU CANNOT PERSONALIZE THE JUSTICE AND THE VERDICTS COMING AS A RULING FROM THE NATION'S TOP MOST DECISION MAKING PROCESS ABOUT JUSTICE FOR INDIVIDUALS- IMPORTANT OR COMMON MAN.

4)Is the game over for anti-Musharraf forces?

I THINK THE GAME IS OVER FOR THEM FORCES. THEY NOT ONLY HAVE LOST THEIR STEAM, BUT THE BUBBLES HAVE EVEN BURST.THE GEOPOLITICAL IMPORTANCE AND THE INTERACTION BY THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL NATIONS REQUIRE MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT. NOW THE JUSTICE OF SC FINDS THE LAW IS ON MUSHARRAF'S SIDE. NS IS SENT BACK WHEN HE COULD PROVE TROUBLESOME. BB IS BEHAVING ERRATIC AND INCONCLUSIVELY JUMPY WITH NO DIRECTION.CJP GOT WHAT HE WANTED AS JUSTICE FOR HIM. THERE ARE NO RIPPLES OR STORMS AMONGST MASSES IN PAKISTAN LIKE THE IRANIANS HAD FOR KHOMEINI AGAINST THE SHAH.THE NATION HAS RELATIVELY HEALTHY CASH RESERVES AND THE NATION IS PROGRESSING WITH CAPITAL AND INVESTMENTS FLOWING IN.THE MILITARY INDUSTRY COMPLEX IS PERFORMING MORE EFFICIENT WITHIN ITS INDUSTRIAL AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURES. PAKISTANI PEOPLE'S EARNINGS ARE INCREASING ACCORDING OR EVEN BETTER THAN PRICE HIKES.I SAW DOUBLE THE NUMBERS OF CARS THERE ON MY TRIP BACK HOME ONLY COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

I THINK ALL TROUBLES OF MUSHARRAF ARE OVER AND ANTI MUSHARRAF FORCES ARE ON THE RUN AND IN UPROOT DIS-ARRAY CONDITION.I AM NOT ANTI OR FOR ANY BODY. MY ASSESSMENT MAY BE WRONG,BUT I FIRMLY THINK THAT ANTI MUSHARRAF FORCES MAY HAVE BEEN KISSED GOOD BY. AND VERY IMPORTANT, AMERICA AND NATO AND MANY BIG POWERS WANT PAK MILITARY AND THEIR BOSS ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT.

5)Are their any options left for APDM to stop Musharraf from getting re-elected by current assemblies?

I THINK THE PARTY IS OVER AND IT IS NOW OUT EDGE OF THE GAME.I DID'NT FIND ANY COMMON MAN INTERESTED IN STREET DEMONSTRATION AS THEY HAD NO POSITIVE VIEW OF THE OPPOSIOTION AS WELL.PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN, LIKE IN IRAN I FOUND, WANTED TO LIVE THEIR LIVES THEY HAVE OR EVEN BETTER. NO BODY WANTED TO DIE ON THE STREET.

THE WORLD EVENTS AND THEIR INTERACTIONS ON THE INTEGRITY OF PAKISTAN IS SUPPORTING MUSHARRAF. THE PAK NATION AS A WHOLE IS NOT DYING TO GET THE MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF OUT.LAWYERS MAY BE DEMONSTRATING, BUT NONE OF THE NATION'S ENGINEERS, SCIENTISTS, PROFESSORS, TEACHERS, ACCOUNTANTS AND TECHNOCRATS AND NOW JUSTICE GRUDGINGLY WANT HIM OUT.AND THE NATION'S LIFELINE MILITARY IS SOLIDLY ON HIS SIDE.

YOU CAN ONLY THINK OF SOME IMAGINARY FORCES OTHER THAN LAWYERS OR ALREDY FENCED OFF POLITICIANS BEARING ANY HIDDEN HOPE TO PERFORM THE MIRACLE IMPOSSIBLE FOR TAKING MUSHARRAF OUT AND APDM IN.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERY BODY.





Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 28 September, 2007

Please accept this verdict as a civilized nation.


Imran Siddiqui, Canada - 28 September, 2007

Dis-oriented analysis

My replies to the specific questions are, as follows:

1)What is your opinion about this judgment?

Current Judgment has vindicated my opinion published on this site, in reply to a similar question. I had stated that, Judicial process works ruthlessly like computers without sentiments, on given rules. I gave a famous example which can better explain the limitations of Judicial process, which is reproduced below:

If you ask a computer about which of the two watches you must buy out of the two, the one, which runs fast by a second in every 24 hours and the one which does not run at all. The surprising computer answer will be, the one which does not run at all, because, in every 24 hours, its will give "exactly correct time twice", while the other one can never give correct time. So, an instance of truth is better than a whole life of farce. Relativity and next best options under duress, are the alternates, not available in following the exactness of legal provisions.
2)Has the dictatorship has won once again?

It is not a failure or win situation for the dictatorship in Pakistan. My simple answer to this question is, "Recipe". You cannot "bake ice cream with recipe of cake". If all ingredients of Coupocracy are passed through the usual mill, result can never be a beautiful and sustaining real democracy.
3) Is this judgment another sequel of Justice Muneer’s judgment?

Although views for and against this question can fill volumes, basic fact still remains the same. Judicial systems always run on given inputs, i.e., ingredients. Then, the capabilities and competence of lawyers are important. We cannot give flying judgment on Justice Muneer's verdict, without rigorous and unbiased analysis of the circumstances then prevailing and passing through the due legal process of the constitution then in force. A cook without ingredients, cooking utensils and facilities, cannot make any dish, irrespective of his highest calibre.
4)Is the game over for anti-Musharraf forces?

Here again, the question is disoriented. We know, when the senior colleagues of Musharraf met and felicitated Musharraf after the Oct. 1999 take-over, before saying his words of thanks, his impulsive response was, "....but, first tell me who is the one who actually pushed me?" We must know this answer before attempting to find if the game is over for anti-Musharraf forces. We need to know, who actually is holding our strings and "how, why, where and when" pulling them.
5) Are there any options left for APDM to stop Musharraf from getting re-elected by current assemblies?

Musharraf is a common scare crow for APDM eying the broth. It can well imagined, if bogey of Musharraf is removed, APDM will disintegrate and start an entirely different type of selfish struggle of for exclusive right to rule. The only option left for them to stop Musharraf is, if they can convince those, who actually "pushed Musharraf" into his position of President in Uniform that, they were better equipped and more convenient to play their covert game and can do "much more " than what they expect. Really sorry state of affairs.



M.Saeed, Pakistan - 29 September, 2007

The Act of Fear.

Fear of the unknown has been embedded in our psyche.Now we
have to watch for awakening in the real sense,amongst the
masses in Pakistan.

Khalid Rahim, Canada - 29 September, 2007

"Judgement at Islamabad"

Burn the forest, save the goat.Next 5 years, what do you think hell is going to look like? True winners are Choudries f Gujrat and chief supremo of MQM.

Alamsher Wazir, Pakistan - 29 September, 2007

Use your own Judgement

Q.What is your opinion about this judgment?

A.Judgement is fine and respectful.

Q.Has dictatorship won again?

A.Has Ahmeddinejad won again? Has Govt President Musharraf Dictatorship won? Has Burma junta Won again ?Has Taliban Hekmatyar Engr Won in Afghanistan ? Four Question have been Asked simultaneously .Same time there is Proposed IMF who is Jewish Strauss Cohn head of IMF from Sarkosy's France.IMF lends money through established banks of the US$1=Can$1=1.43 Euros amid Oil sales criteria investors such as India China Japan .When Bush tells Turkey not to touch Iran oil Iraq oil what does it mean?

Q) Is this judgment another sequel of Justice Muneer’s judgment?

A. The politics of getting pay cheque at the end of the month should not stop Judges and Lawyers getting elected.

Is the game over for anti-Musharraf forces?

Who is behind shaping up world forces ?Who is responsible for world events and climate
Change? Sponsors of Politics work with international living working with international investor working with IMF>They Rule and they usually use divide and rule.Who should care?The election should go smoothly to elect democracy leader. This is to elect a leader .This is not to elect a Prophet or profit (self benefit and you benefit ) oriented.Pakistan Has 160 million people.Be innovative and create talented People to run Pakistan .Leaders may come Leaders may Go but Nation will go on forever should be wisdom


be Zee, United Arab Emirates - 29 September, 2007

51st state of United States - 1

Six judges of Supreme Courts have successfully removed name of Pakistan from the list of independent nations for ever, Pakistan has lost its last battle, and sextet of honorable judges have eternally endorsed Pakistan as 51st state of United States. Since last eight years it was an outpost colony of US, where citizens of Pakistan were under severe oppression of tyrannical army generals, patronize and financed by neo-cons, today’s decision has reduced one independent state from the list of United Nations. Sextet of judges not only killed Pakistan State but permanently changed its source of authority to President of United States. Comments of ordinary citizens have no value to honor or criticize Supreme Courts verdict, because citizens have no privileges to protest or appreciate in the absence of any kind of civil liberties, even die or live alive, servants of fascist government have taken rights of burial from citizens.

Justice speaks itself
Injustice plays a major role in destroying complete structure of the society; its first victim is corrupt judicial system, which later pass on to executive and political systems. Unfortunately present bench was in a hurry to be screwed and skewed by fraudulent generals, that judiciary has closed chapter of existing “judicial system of Pakistan” with its own hands for ever.
Judges have deliberately accepted supremacy of establishment (Army Chief, DG Crisis Management, and secretary interior, DG ISI, MI and IB) for rest of their lives. Bench has lost its credibility and integrity for ever in the eyes of public and establishment. Beneficiaries of this decision have vested interests, so their cheering has no value comparing with the situation when victims were cheering chief justice for the restoration of law without any personal benefit. Whether it was mistake of citizens to expect fair decision from impartial, corrupt and under pressure judges? Who were working for the sake of salaries and promotions only?
If some body may argue that a judge must care for constitution and prevailing laws and their decisions nothing to do with public opinion, it is right in the situation when system is working and judge is not corrupt, but Pakistan is passing through different circumstances. In any case or any situation justice speaks itself.

Militarization of political system:
By allowing a fascist dictator’s candidacy in uniform, is a slap on the face of democracy; the judges who supported this decision, after some time their conscious will blame and declare their selves as immoral decision makers. Sprite of innocents who have been brutally murdered will surround them and ask question, why injustice was served? And why satanic mafia was reemployed? Today militarization of political system is entirely mistake of bench. Question is if politicians are corrupt then why their cases are hanging in courts since long? Is it not due to corrupt judiciary?
Present decision has legalized military role in politics and made Mush to emerge as neo-Pinochet or Hosni Mubarik puppet of US.

Restoration of justice:
Was it illusion to make a donkey to be horse? Experiment was failed and it gave result of a mule, loaded with army generals’ corruption, barbarianism, fascism, and terrorism. This decision has thrown Pakistan out of civilized states and it has changed the geographical status of Pakistan for ever. Successfully degraded Pakistan Supreme courts and tied hands of Chief justice to conduct any fair decision. Hundred thousand of citizens were at the back of judiciary to support them in most critical times of history. But it is a dilemma of our nation that two top institutes of Pakistan never took wise decisions. Pakistan Army failed to defend country to its basic role and Judiciary always supported corrupt dictators to prolong their rule. We are not talking about politicians who are corrupt and greedy in nature with cheap mentality.

Courts have wasted lot of time and resources of the peoples, made them cynical for two weeks, we count it shrewdness of bench to push whole nation to expect results, if case was required to be thrown out then why such long drama was played. According to previous experience and observations of our judicial system, last week I wrote a letter “Justice delayed is justice denied” (1), still on websites of many papers, hopeless character of judges and unnecessary lingering cases of important nature, failing to protect sanctity of verdicts and closing eyes from vicious role of agencies shook our faith on restoration of judicial system as predictable.

Now there is no matter left to be expected for good after receiving fatal shock, we have no choice to discuss after shocks and causes of shock.
Please see part 2


international professor, Pakistan - 29 September, 2007

51st state of United States - 2

Main points based on why and might be scenario, keeping in view personal character of six judges:
(Justice) Javed Iqbal, Abdul Hamid Dogar, Falak Sher, Nawaz Abbasi, Faqir M Khokhar, M. Javed Butter.

1. One judge was against Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Ch: and continuous discussion of restoration of Judiciary could be a matter of jealousy.
2. Two judges have direct links with establishment and with Shariff ud Din Pirzada with the evidence of impartiality.
3. One is from PPP, whose imported sister recently joined PPP.
4. In addition to that CII (Council of Islamic Ideology) was used to present a bribe of “Non Muslim Chief Justice” to Rana Bhagvan Das. Chairman of CII who keeps letter pad of CII in his pocket and famous for issuing decrees on demand, issued such decree, but Justice Bhagvan Das disagreed with the decision.
5. Government harassed judges through their relatives, Ansar Abbasi, disclosed such practice in Jang-News yesterday.
6. Threats of martial law, emergency and media trial.
7. Hafeez Pirzada was inducted purposely.
8. Status of three impartial judges was raised by one petitioner, which was rejected.
Other factors which played important role:
1. Ex Prime Minister was kidnapped by Saudi intelligence chief, in spite of Supreme Courts decision, court is mum on this issue.
2. In the history of nations first time out going ISI chief hosted a dinner, where 40-50 ambassadors were invited, it never happened in diplomatic circles that a spy chief may invite all Pakistani politicians and establishment.
3. A suspicious activity of attorney general, after time of announcement of decision, and decision was delayed for more then one hour. http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/sep2007-daily/28-09-2007/update.htm#28
4. International Crisis Group’s report compromised and corrupt judiciary of Pakistan. (2)
5. United Nations report on corrupt Judiciary(3)
6. Transparency International report on Pakistan (4)
Great Danger:

1. It looks that existence of Chief Justice is doubtful, and all sensitive cases will linger in courts as previous tradition of courts. Chief justice must take lot of care because after today’s decision hungry wolves have been given credibility to conduct more extra judicial measures, state terrorism and humiliation to citizens.
2. Other danger is revolving around Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, present conspiracy of Benazir against Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan is not meaningless, and she had two points in her mind. First to make him controversial in the eyes of west so great danger of his nomination for the post of President may not happen, second factor was to gain certificate of “credible poodle” from Washington in her favor. She spent million of dollars on her projection and public relationing.
3. Coalition of most despicable peoples of the society around Mush is very dangerous and harmful for the Pakistan. Such as Mushahid Hussain, enemy number of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, Shariff ud Din Pirzada enemy of civilian governments of Pakistan, S M Zaffar and family(including Nayeem Bokhari), Waseem Sajjad ( Sweet knife), Shakuit Aziz (so called PM and agent of world bank), MQM ( terrorists mafia), Benazir (Corrupt mafia), Ch; Shujaat & co( national souteneur’s), Lickspittle political generals in uniform like Ashfaq Pervaiz Kiyani, Nadeem Ijaz, Tariq Majeed butcher, and Nadeem Taj. In others DG National Crisis Management cell, DG IB, secretary interior, who get appointed his obedient servant as IG Islamabad. You can expect any thing bad from them.

Corruption of corruptions:
1. Here I will quote saying of a great lawyer about corrupt judicial sector "Corruption within the judicial sector ranks can create a pernicious (malicious, deadly, evil, insidious, spiteful) multiplier corruption effect on the rest of the public sector. One could consider judicial corruption as a "corruption of corruptions" in which those who're responsible to interpret and enforce the rules to counteract corrupt practices are themselves corrupt."

2. 77% of Indians believe judiciary is corrupt, and 96 % believe in Pakistan that lower courts are corrupt. (TI survey).
Please see part - 3


international professor, Pakistan - 29 September, 2007

51st state of United States - 3

Conclusion:
Peoples around the globe are laughing on six judges of Pakistan; soft image of Pakistan created by Chief Justice of Pakistan with the help of Bar Councils and poor peoples of Pakistan has been thrown out. Integrity and credibility of courts are again became a question mark. Hopelessness and disgust ness of peoples due to lack of trust on Pakistan Army generals and as such by now present decision, it looks that a full fledge civil war will be started.
Judiciary has successfully pushed Pakistan in different camps simultaneously:
Saudi authoritarian camp consists of Hosni Mubarik, Shah Husain, Abu Maazan and other Sheikhdoms, under direct protection of US forces.
Neo-cons Dick Cheney camp consists of Nuri al Maliki and Karazai under direct protection of NATO and western governments.
Status of Pakistan has been changed for ever as 51st US state, its position will be as front portion of cow will be fed from Pakistan resources and teats will benefit to western governments.
Red blood of Pakistani citizens will be used to strengthen fascism and another Hitler, whether it will be blood of our poor Jawans or innocent civilians.

Earthman
International Professor

References:
1. Justice delayed is justice denied
http://www.attocknews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=376&Itemid=168
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1608&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
http://www.paktribune.com/speakout/index.php?id=133

2. Transparency international report:
Islamabad/Brussels: Comprehensive reform of Pakistan's compromised and corrupt judiciary is necessary if the country is to make any progress toward rule of law and return to democracy.
Building Judicial Independence in Pakistan the latest report from the International Crisis Group says the government of Pervez Musharraf has deepened the judiciary's subservient position among national institutions, ensured that politics trumps the rule of law, and weakened the foundations for democratic rule. "Despite the promises General Musharraf made at the time of his coup five years ago, he has aggressively co-opted and disabled the judiciary"
On the three occasions when military coups have ended democratic rule in Pakistan, the judiciary not only failed to check extra-constitutional regime change, but also endorsed and abetted the consolidation of illegally gained power.
In the immediate aftermath of Musharraf's October 1999 coup, the judiciary was purged of judges who might have opposed the military's unconstitutional moves. "The current military government's own unconstitutional origins mean it has simply been unable to let the judiciary act independently", says Robert Templer, Director of ICG's Asia Program.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3100&m=1

3. United Nations report on corrupt Judiciary:
A serious impediment to the success of any anti-corruption strategy is a corrupt judiciary. A corrupt judiciary means that the legal and institutional mechanism designed to curb corruption, however well-targeted, efficient or honest, remains crippled. Unfortunately mounting evidence is steadily surfacing of widespread judicial corruption in many parts of the world. Insufficient attention has been given to the integrity of the judiciary and the broader criminal justice system."
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/corruption.html

4. Transparency International report on Pakistan
Corruption is undermining judicial systems around the world, denying citizens’ access to justice and the basic human right to a fair and impartial trial, sometimes even to a trial at all, according to the Global Corruption Report 2007: Corruption in Judicial Systems issued today by Transparency International, the global coalition against corruption.
“Equal treatment before the law is a pillar of democratic societies. When courts are corrupted by greed or political expediency, the scales of justice are tipped, and ordinary people suffer,” said Huguette Labelle, Chair of Transparency International. “Judicial corruption means the voice of the innocent goes unheard, while the guilty act with impunity.”
The new Global Corruption Report concludes that a corrupt judiciary erodes the international community’s ability to prosecute transnational crime and inhibits access to justice and redress for human rights violations. It undermines economic growth by damaging the trust of the investment community, and impedes efforts to reduce poverty.
According to a 2002 survey, 96 percent of respondents in Pakistan who had contact with the lower courts had encountered corrupt practices, while in Russia, an estimated US $210 million in bribes is thought to be spent on law courts annually.
http://www.transparency.org/news_room/latest_news/press_releases/2007/2007_05_24_gcr2007_launch



international professor, Pakistan - 29 September, 2007

Permanancy of Dictatorship

Another Hosni Mubarrak is in making.Once again Supreme Ct.
has strengthened Musharraf's hold on power.He will do what
lies in his & his generals interest.Surrounded by his
unscrupulous cronies,he will
go to any length to appease his masters in West.He already betrayed Kashmiris and now it is whole nation he will betray.It is not the end but beginning of unchartered course leading to chaos.

Azam K, United Kingdom - 30 September, 2007

Prophecy of Professor

Sorry prof. you appear to be residing in the State of Confusion.
The 51st State is Israel & 52nd is Puerto Rico.
Time for getting beyond the theories you mastered in past.
One thing that can never happen in the political arena of Pakistan is that the Pakistanis cannot ever accept a verdict that they dont like to see, secondly a corrupt nation can only seek corrupt politicians that happen to be in self-exile and even if they were not they are not qualified for a third term.
Take it or leave it this is how it is going to be, in future keep it short.

Matloob Zaman, Pakistan - 30 September, 2007

Why disturb peace in Pakistan.

THIS VERDICT IS FROM TWO THIRD MAJORITY IN SUPREME COURT AND THE CONFRONTATION PATH IS CONFINED TO ONLY LAWYERS AND JOURNALISTS.

THESE SELECT OPPOSING FORCES TRIED EVEN HARDER TO DETHRONE AYUB KHAN IN HIS EARLY DAYS OF REGIME AND WERE EASILY CONTAINED.

PAKISTANI PEOPLE,SURE,DO NOT WANT TO COME ON THE STREETS TO DESTABILIZE PAKISTAN AT A TIME WHEN THE DEMOCRATIC FORCES ARE IN DISARRAY AND ARE DISUNITED.BESIDES THEIR LOYALTY AND PERFORMANCE AND HONESTY IS BEING QUESTIONED OPENLY IN THE PRESS MORE THAN MILITARY'S WARM RUBBING THEIR HANDS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FACING THE NATION IS PEACE AT HOME AND ONLY ONE OR TWO SEGMENTS OF PROFESSIONALS ARE OUT THERE,WHILE EVEN MOST OTHER PROFESSIONALS ARE BUSILY CONSTRUCTING THE NATION.

THE INTERNATIONAL PROFESSOR'S BIG WRITE UP MAY BE OUT OF SELF SENTIMENTAL REASONS.THE SKY IS NOT FALLING IN PAKISTAN OTHER THAN POLITICALLY FROZEN INDIVIDUALS ARE TRYING TO STIR UP THINGS TO REGAIN THE OPPORTUNITIES LOST.

THE COMMN MAN,AS I FOUND ON MY VISIT BACK HOME ONLY LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO, IS BUSY IN EARNING A LIVING.THE PRICES ARE GOING UP,BUT THE WAGES HAVE GONE UP MORE IN THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.EVEN MY SISTER'S PENSION HAS ALMOST DOUBLED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND SHE STOPPED ME FROM EXTENDING ANY FINANCIAL HELP TO HER.THERE WERE TREMENDOUS AND MAMOTH AMOUNTS OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ALMOST ANY WHERE.PEOPLE WERE INQUIRING ABOUT ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.THE TRAFFIC DENSITY IN LAHORE SHOWED THAT THE NUMBERS OF NEW CARS HAVE DOUBLED AND PAKS MAY HAVE TO TAKE DISTURBING TRAFFIC MODES OUT LIKE THEY HAVE DONE IN TEHRAN IRAN,AND MAY HAVE TO BUILD OVER PASSES AND THE LIKES.

PAKISTAN SURE HAS MANY FEWER BEGGARS THAN THERE USED TO BE AND STREET BEGGARS ARE ALMOST HISTORY NOW.PEOPLE ARE DOING ALL AND ONLY THOSE MISCHIEFS THAT ARE DONE BY FINANCIALLY GROWING SOCIETIES.

YOU CANNOT EXPECT PAKISTAN TO BE AMERICA OR CANADA OR EUROPE, BUT THERE WERE MANY SMILES ON THEIR FACES.THEY DID NOT LOOK UNDERNOURISHED.

I HONESTLY WISHED,IF I COULD LOOSE MUCH OF MY 250 POUNDS OF HEAVY WEIGHT AND BE FIT LIKE THEM,WHO WERE RUNNING AND JUMPING EVERY WHERE LIKE UNSTRESSED SOULS.THEY SURE DID NOT HAVE THE KILLING STRESS THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE WEST HAVE.THE TAN AND SUPER SMART LOOKING GIRLS HAD NO OVERWEIGT FAT ON THEM LIKE THE GIRLS OF AMERICA OR CANADA.THEY HAD IDEALLY PERFECT AND PLUMP LOOKS AND BODIES AND LOOKED LOT MORE PRETTIER WITH THEIR TAN,GOLD AND MANY WITH VERY WHITE SKIN AS WELL.

WHY SEND THE VAST MAJORITY MASSES OF GOOD AND FIT AND PRETTY LOOKS OF TAN,GOLD AND LIGHT COLOUR BEAUTIES ON THE STRRET DEMONSTRATION.LET A SMALL SEGMENT OF POPULATION OF LAWYERS INDULGE IN THAT,TILL THEY ARE SATIATED AND GET BACK TO THEIR NORMAL ROUTINES.

PAKISTAN IS NOT ANY STATE OF AMERICA AND NOR IT EVER WILL BE. IT IS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY WITH ITS ARYAN TRADITIONS AND CULTURE.

THE INTERNATIONAL PROFESSOR MAY HAVE HIS OWN SENTIMENTAL SURGE. PAKS ARE TOENIG AMERICAN LINES ONLY WHERE IT IS NO WAY OUT. THEY FLATLY REFUSED INVASION ROUTE INTO IRAN AS TURKEY DID IT INTO IRAQ.PAKS ARE MITIGATING ON CRUSHING RESPONSE IN SIDE, EVEN WHEN THERE IS WAR AND WAR LIKE SITUATION AROUND.PAKISTAN HAS A STRONG DISCIPLINED ARMY THAT POSSESSES SCORES OF NUKES TO DETER FOREIGN ATTACK DESPITE SOME ON/OFF SPORADIC DISTURBANCES AT HOME.

ALL SENSIBLE PAKS ARE FOR PEACE IN THE COUNTRY AND ARE TRYING TO CONTAIN ANY MORE UPSETS LIKE BAJAOR OR LAL MASJID.WHY SHOULD THEY ENDANGER THEMSELVES ON THE STREET FOR NOT THAT GREAT POLITICAL REASONS, WHICH HAVE THEIR VICIOUS INTERESTS. WHY DWINDLE THE NATION'S CASH RESERVES OF 16 BILLION USD WHILE THEY ARE GOING UP AND NOT DOWN.WHY GO MADLY AFTER OUR NATION'S LIFELINE OF DEFENSE FORCES, WHO EVEN ARE OPERATING PROFITABLE MILITARY INDUSTRY COMPLEX AND ARE STAYING PUT IN THE COUNTRY WHILE OTHERS RUN AWAY WITH THE LOOT.THIS MI COMLEX COULD EVEN ENHANCE ITS PERFORMANCE FURTHER AND EMPLOY MORE CIVILIANS AS WELL BY INFUSING MORE TECHNOCRATS WITHIN THEIR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURES.

EVEN THE CONSTRUCTION LABOUR, WHEN ASKED, TOLD THAT THEY COULD PUT REASONABLE BREAD AND BUTER ON THEIR MEALS. THEY DO NOT OVER EAT LIKE IN NORTH AMERICA. HONESTLY I WISHED THAT I WAS 160-180 POUNDS HEAVY LIKE THEM COMPARED TO MY PRESENT 250 POUNDS DANGEROUSLY OVER WEIGHT CONDITION LIKE MOST AMERICANS AND CANADIANS.AND THE TAN AND GOLD SKIN PAK GIRLS, LIKE THE IRANIAN ONES,LOOKED GORGEOUSLY FIT WITH PERFECT FORMS AND WEIGHTS.AND THEY HAD PERFECTLY FIT SMILES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HOLD THEIR FAT LADEN FLESH THAT NORTH AMERICAN FEMALES HAVE.

IT IS EARNESTLY WISHED AND HOPED THAT MAJORITY PAKS GIRLS AND WOMEN AND MEN AND YOUTH WILL NOT BE SWAYED INTO USELESS STREET DEMONSTRATIONS.

ONES FROM ONE OR TWO SEGMENTAL MINORITY WILL HOPEFULL REVERT THEMSELVES BACK TO NORMAL WAYS OF GETTING BUSY IN HONEST LIVING SOON.



AGAIN, FIT AND PERFECT SEIGHTED PAKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE GOLD AND TAN LOVERLY AND LOVABLE SOULS ARE ENVIED FOR THEIR FITNESS.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 01 October, 2007

No need for Pak bashing from inside

THE JUDGEMENT IS BY MAJORITY BENCH OF CIVIL SUPREME COURT JUDGES AND DISPLEASURE IS FROM FEW WITH EQUAL OR MORE IN FAVOUR.THAT IS COMPROMISED DEMOCRATIC WAYS.

NO NEED TO DO PAK BASHING FROM WITHIN WHEN THE COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE SKY IS FALLING.

I ENVY THE FITNESS OF THE GOLD AND TAN SKIN PAKS ESPECIALLY THE GIRLS AND THE YOUTH.WISH THEY COULD MAKE MY 250 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT FIT LIKE THEMSELVES.

PAK TEENS ARE SO FULL OF FITNESS AND MOBILITY THAT I WAS GLAD TO SEE THEM AROUND. EVEN IN IRAN TWO WEEKS AGO ON PART OF MY TRIP, I FELT ASHAMED OF MY 250 POUNDS OF OVERWEIGHT SELF.THE TAN AND GOLD SKIN TEEN AGE DAUGHTERS OF MY RETIRED SISTER HAD DROPPED A PART OF THE WALL ON HER ROOF WHILE JUMPING AND PLAYING AND RUNNING AND PUSHING AROUND OVER THERE WITH THEIR EXHILERATED ENERGY OF YOUTH OF BOBY SOXERLY STRENGTH, MOBILITY AND CHARMS.MY RETIRED SISTER GOT VERY MAD AT THEM, BUT I MADE HER AGREE TO GET THE WALL FIXED OURSELVES INSTEAD OF RESTRICTING AND FIGHTING THE ENERGIZED AND FIT TEEN GIRLS AND THEIR EQUALLY FIT BROTHER.AND THOSE LOVELY KIDS WERE HAPPY WITH US.

I WAS EVEN ASHAMED TO INTERPOSE MY HEAVY 250 PUNDS FATTY WEIGHT IN FRONT OF MY IRANIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN GAS RELATED SEMINARS WHERE I WAS THE KEY SPEAKER IN TEHRAN.

I SAW MANY FIT AND LOVERLY IRANIAN WOMEN ENGINEERS, WHO HAD COME TO LISTEN AND INTERACT WITH ME IN THOSE GAS ENGINEERING SESSIONS.

O THE FIT SOULS OF PAKISTAN AND IRAN MAKE ME AS MUCH FIT AS YOU ARE.

LET US LOOK AT THE GOOD AND POSITIVE ASPECTS OF PAKISTAN AND THESE AUSPICIOUS THINGS MUCH OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVITIES.

LET US ALL THINK POSITIVE AND GREAT ABOUT OUR DEAR PAKISTAN AND REFRAIN FROM BERATING THE FELLOW COUNTRYMEN NO MATTER HOW MUCH POLARIZED THINKING AND ACTS THERE MAY EXIST.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 01 October, 2007

Dictated decision

If it was a fair decision then it could be 9-0 instead of 6-3. At least four judges have vested interests, known to public and as such objection of their participation was raised by petitioner which was immorally rejected. Those corrupt judges must have withdrawn from the bench. Pakistan Supreme Courts did not work on theories of computerized logics or basic principals.
Read the statement of Justice Rana Bhagvan Das.
Leaving a few judges on finger tips, most are hungry and corrupt who did not provide relief to peoples in 80% cases. Majority of decisions are based on influence of government on judges, decisions are mostly according to requirement of Government, which came out of files when government require.
There is no doubt in professional abilities of judges, because smart decisions clearly shows influence and financial status of beneficiaries, relevance of their decisions could be compared with a Assistant Sub Inspector of police station at the time of lodging any FIR, his capability compel him to mention only those clauses in the FIR against or in favor according to financial status of reporter, hole justice system revolves around that FIR. It is mockery of judiciary in Pakistan that only those decisions came out which government desire, this does not matter that whether those are according to law or constitution, it is simply a way out to please authoritarian army dictator for vested interests.
Serving Army Chief to contest an election is a joke with democracy, in current circumstances judges provide base for Army rule, we expect more generals will be encouraged to play same game in future. It is clearly dictated decision.


Ghulam Rasool, Pakistan - 01 October, 2007

Corrupt decision by judges

It is worst decision ever seen in my life.

Don’t compare civilized nations with Pakistan. It is a banana republic ruled by corrupt and ruthless mafia with the backing of western countries who like democracy for their country but want authoritarian flatterer on other countries

Civilized countries mean where government servants are accountable. If there lawyers did not agitate the reason is that government servants, politicians and institutions are accountable in front of courts and parliament. Percentage of corruption in Pakistan is higher among even poor states. There is no freedom of speech, rights of protest and compensation to victims for wrong doings of security agencies, parliament is rubber stamp.
Dictator writes and implements laws on gun point, courts provide legitimacy to those bogus laws, election rules could be amended for one person. Agencies have authority to kill kidnap or imprison any person. General or police could declare any body terrorist, invade and kill civilians. Judges of anti-terrorism courts frequently visit to US consulates for direction. Hundred thousand peoples have been killed in state terrorism and target killings.

This judgment is worst then Justice Munir case. In those days media had no technological advancement like today. Institutions were not computerized, and it was difficult to trace corruption of judges. Now situation has changed, reporters have resources to trace any wrong doing. Humiliation of chief justice was a lesson for judiciary; it is choice of judges to remain in slavery for a few personal benefits.

Game is not finished, by closing one door it does not mean that chapter is closed. Fascism is based on illusions, by controlling funds and to impose eunuch judiciary with the help of military every fascist dictator thinks that now he has no opposition. Present resistance is not limited to politicians; it has brain of intellectuals, scholars, law makers, journalists, victims and human right groups. Who will not let digest them American dollars easily, peoples have complete list of generals and their descendents living abroad on government expenses. Temporary set back is only due to Benazir’s deal for corruption cases, Saudi involvement in internal affairs and unnecessary trust on courts.

Western governments have no right to impose any sycophant. Pakistan Army has no right to convert Pakistan in US colony. Removal of Mush mean departure of Hamid Karazai and Noori Al Maliki from Pakistan for ever and stopping another Suharto, Hosni Mubarik, Pinochet, Hitler or Michael Gorbachov to born again.

Story of computer looks hilarious; it is being operated, designed and programmed by peoples, depends what speed, memory, program, operating system, may you have and with money you can buy super computer. In this situation Pakistani courts has a computer with corrupt files, Pakistani Army has the computer which is programmed to print currency, NGO’s down load only porn and Police watch only violence, agencies watch only kidnapping and torture. I hope CJ will take stand and after arrival of Benazir and Nawaz Shariff situation will be different. Scene of beating lawyers and journalists is starting point after 1st favorable decision, think when Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani and Tariq Majeed Qasai will get top posts.


Khadim Husain, Pakistan - 01 October, 2007

SC verdict based on WISDOM not according to the Constitution

The SC verdict on can the army coas's run for president is a wise decision and not according to the constitution because the SC knows if they had ruled against the dictator than he would have declared emergency or even put martial law in the country to save himself and to stay in power but if the appeal hearing goes to the CJ before the election than we hope his time around the right judgement will be made.

J. AKRAM, Pakistan - 01 October, 2007

judgement

SC has now purpetuated general's power & tenure. Once re-elected as president, he will never give up the uniform. Anybody who is in power for 8 years can build up enough power & money to corrupt anybody around & under him. Hence it's important to have term limits & fundamental tenets of constitution unchangeble.

a s ahmed, Pakistan - 01 October, 2007

there are good things in pakistan other than politics

LET US THINK OF BALANCED SOLUTIONS AND BALANCED THINKING TO KEEP PAKISTAN PEACEFUL INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.ZIA-BHUTTO STYLE ANIMOSITY AND FIGHTING WITH CUT THROAT GRUDGING TALKS OF,"EITHER, IT IS HIS NECK OR MINE." WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE SUFFER AS WELL.IN CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES,THE NATION'S AFFAIRS ARE TRYING TO REVERT BACK TO THAT UGLY POLITICAL DUEL.PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF POLITICAL FENCES SEEM TO BE DYING TO GET THE OTHER SIDE OUT OF POLITICAL RACES. AND THEN THE INTERNAL MISTRUST AND SWITCHING TO HORSE TRADING AND DEALS ARE MAKING THINGS UGLY. NEITHER NS, NOR BB, NOR MUSHARRAF NOR ANY BODY ELSE ARE POORLY FED OR TAKEN ILL CARE OF. NONE OF THEM WILL DIE OR SUFFER IF THEY DO NOT GET THAT POWER SEAT.

COMMON MAN NEED NOT EMBROIL HIMSELF IN MEGA POLITICS NOR THE COMPLEX LEGAL DEALS. AFTER ALL THERE IS SOME JUSTICE IN PAKISTAN WHEN YOU READ IN TODAY'S PAPER ABOUT SUSPENSION OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS FOUND MISHANDLING AND MAN HANDLING THE CIVILIANS LAWYERS AND JOURNALISTS. IF I WAS ONE OF THEM, I WOULD'NT BE WASTING MY TIME IN THE STREETS.

I WAS IN PAKISTAN AND IRAN AND UAE 2 WEEKS AGO. I WAS SPENDING MY HAPPY TIME THERE IN PLEASANT AND GOOD THINGS AND FEELING GREAT. I WAS MORE THAN DELIGHTED TO SEE MEGA ROAD CONSTRUCTION WORK ON LAHORE-GUJRANWALA EXPANSION AND LAHORE-SHEIKHUPURA-KHANGAH DOGRAN EXTENSION TO NATIONAL FREEWAY.I WAS SPENDING MY TIME IN WATCHING THE HAPPY CONSUMERS SHOPPING IN ANARKALI BAZAR AND ELSEWHERE.THERE WAS TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC DENSITY AND I EVEN FOUND THE DAUGHTER OF A WELL TO DO FAMILY MAKING TRIP FROM KHANGAH DOGRAN TO LAHORE IN THEIR BRAND NEW CAR ONLY TO EAT BURGERS WITH 160 PLUS KILOMETER JOURNEY.

I HAD TIME TO SEE HAPPY UPWARD MOBILITY OF THE PEOPLE AS THE BEGGARS WERE DIS-APPEARING AND EVEN COMMON MAN WAS DEVELOPING TASTE FOR FAST FOOD-FOR MAC OR KC STYLE OR HOME GROWN OUTLETS.

HONESTLY SPEAKING, I DID NOT FIND COMMON PEOPLE PATRONIZING ON POLITICAL ALLEGIANCES OR ALIGNMENTS WITH MUCH OR EVEN SLIGHTED FERVER.

I SPENT MORE HAPPY TIME WATCHING FIT AND NORMAL WEIGHT PAK BEAUTIES OF GOLD AND TAN JUMPING AND MOVING AROUND WELL ENERGIZED.I EVEN FELT ASHAMED OF MY 250 POUNDS FATTY WEIGHT AND I FELT THE SAME IN IRAN WHERE I HAD TO SIT AND LECTURE SOME OF THE PRETTIEST AND FIT GIRLS AND GALS AND WOMEN AND MEN ON GAS ENGINEERING TOPICS.

PAKISTAN WAS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ADDICTED TO CARS ALL THE TIME TO GET FAT AND IMMOBILE.IT WAS PLEASURED DELIGHT TO SEE THE BEAUTIFULLY LOOKING PEOPLE,WHO DO NOT SERVICE THEIR STOMACHS ALL THE TIME BY EATING CONTINUOUSLY, GORMANDIZING ON 1.5-2 KILO MEAT EACH PERSON A DAY AND GETTING GLUED TO COMPUTERS ALL THE TIME BESIDES BROKEN AND WORRIED SLEEP OVER STRUGGLING WITH BILLS.THEIR CREDIT RATING IS REAL CASH OR CREDIT BUYING AND NOT CALLING DEBT RATING AS CREDIT RATING.

SOME CAREFULLY MEASURED LINKS WITH AMERICA AND THE WEST ARE NECESSARY SO THAT THE COUNTRY CANNOT BE RENDERED CAGED FROM INTERNATIONAL BANKING. IRAN CAN STRUGGLE WITH THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE OF HER GRANDEST RESRVES OF MOST IN DEMAND ENERGY RESOURCES.PAKISTAN WILL BE REELING WITH EXCRUCIATING PAIN UNDER SIMILAR CONSTRICTED CONSTRAINTS, AND THESE POLITICAL ANIMALS WON'T EVEN SHOW ANY INTERST IN COUNTRY, LET ALONE IN ITS PROBLEMS.

WE CAN GIVE CREDIT TO ALL FOR ANY GOOD THEY DID, BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO CREATE RIFT THAT MAKES THE HAPPY GOING PAK PEOPLE LOOSE THEIR PEACE OF MIND OVER SOMETHING OF NO BIG SUBSTANCES.

SO FAR ONLY A SMALL SEGMENT WITH POWER GREED OR RELATED INTEREST HAS COME ON THE STREET. VERDICT AND JUDGEMENTS ARE FOR COURTS TO DECIDE AND THERE IS SOME JUSTICE GOING AROUND IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS GLAD TO READ IN MEDIA ABOUT ARGUMENTS-BOTH PRO AND CONS. THERE IS REALLY NO SELECTIVE BASHING.SOMETIMES IT GETS UN CIVIL AND ROUDY. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO BLOOD FOR THOSE NOT SO GREAT CONCERNS.

THE MAIN CONCERN AND REAL THING TO WATCH IN OUR PAKS IS THE WAY THE LIFE IS TAKEN AS RELAXED WAYS.THERE IS TOUCH OF HUMANITY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE IS MUCH PLEASANT.IN CANADA AND US IT HAS GONE BAD AND WORSE AS THE SERVERS ARE TRYING TO RUN AWAY FROM THE CUSTOMERS. SOME TIMES YOU ASK A PERSON FOR SOME ITEM AND YOU GET ANGRY RESPONSE AS SUCH:

"GO AND LOOK FOR YOURSELF."

I CAN DESCRIBE AN EXAMPLE, WHERE MY NEICES AND ME WENT FOR GETTING PAIRS OF EYE GLASSES.I WAS QUOTED 300 DOLLARS FOR ONLY ONE PAIR FOR MYSELF IN CANADA AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS JUST NORMAL.IN LAHORE,WE BOUGHT 5 PAIRS FOR FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR UNDER 1OO DOLLARS AND THE SMALL KIDS GOT COLOUR GPGGLES FOR FREE PLUS ICE CREAM.THE MEASUREMENTS FOR PRESCRIPTION WERE INCLUDED.

IN TEHRAN THEY MADE ME FUN SIT FOR ONE HOUR FOR PURCHASE OF ONLY A PAIR OF SHOES THAT WERE MADE IN PARIS AND OF GOOD QUALITY.I PAID ONLY 50 DOLLARS FOR THEM,WHILE IN CANADA OR LONDON I WOULD PAY 250 DOLLARS FOR THEM.AND THEY GAVE ME FREE SOFT DRINKS AND GOOD HAPPY CUSTOMER SERVICE.

LET US TALK OF GOOD THINGS IN PAKISTAN AND NOT ABOUT SOME BODY ELSE'S POLITICAL HEAD ACHES.



Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 01 October, 2007

Musharaff is the best!!

I just dont get it!!! till before the verdict of the supremem court averyone was like "Ain ki bahali hogaye" and everyone was wid the supremem court and now when Th SUpreme court given a verdict in favour of Musharaff then its "What supreme court?? Pakistani Lawyers are a handful of shame to the nation!! I remember reading a headline news here about the weird lawyers sparying black paint on another lawyer!!! What a shameful act done with so much confindence!!and they call themselves lawyers!!I dont remember Nawaz shariff doing anything gud for the nation!!! All he did was made roads from lahor to Pindi......And thats it cuz thats what he neeeded.He looted the nation and made his home doors in LONDON (one of the most expensive cities in the world)with gold and preciouis jewels...Musharaff did everyting. At the time Namwaz left the country our country's invester confidence was at an all time low....But now after Musharaff took power Pakistan is one of the fatstest growing economies in Asia!!And lets not forget that musharaff is also a human and if people think he has made some mistakes than OK Big DEAL???!!?? Our country has made a remarkable progress during mUsh's rul!! Lets not forget that!!! GEO MUSHARFF!!!!MUSHARFF ZINDA BAAD!!!ALL THE SANE PAKISTANIS ARE WID U !!and yess talking bout the lawyer issue on 29th spet then these loosers need it they were disturbing the peace of the country.......they are not that innocent...they siumply want to rebel the authorities and the blame the outcome on the govenment !! GEO MUSHARFf...........JEETAY RAHOOO

anon, Ukraine - 01 October, 2007

Traitors...

To truly evaluate the problem facing Arabs and Muslims, we need to place 100% of the blame and guilt on the shoulders of Arab rulers. My common sense tells me a leader or a king is legally and morally responsible for the well being of his people. Any harm, injury, destruction or death caused to people by external enemies with intended collaboration from the domestic governing party must be punished by the World Court. Every Arab king and every Arab leader has committed one or several counts of first degree murder by serving the interest of outsiders over the interest of their people. This argument applies also to American, Israeli and British leaders for subjecting their people to horrifying terrorism carried out by individuals or groups who have suffered massive human and property losses from atrocities inflected on their countrymen and families by Israel and United States over the last fifty years. We all failed, after the September 11 attack on Washington and New York, to acknowledge Arab and Muslim rulers are technically the ones who failed their people and left them unprotected; thus forced individuals or groups to resort to a terrorism that is totally and wholly denounced by God and all sane voices in the world.United States and Israel wage wars against innocent civilians; at the same time they provide protection and motivation to Arab and Muslim rulers; these rulers continue to oppress their people, even though the entire Middle East is on fire today. This blazing fire will not miss the feet of Arab and Muslim rulers. Mullah Omar of Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein of Iraq were chased from their elected positions and replaced by puppet leaders. You would think Arab rulers have gotten the message by now. Sadly, Arab rulers are partners with those who are committing crimes against humanity; it is even sadder, Arab masses are going on with their lives as though there is nothing going on. How long will Arab masses remain shackled in fear and twisted faith? When will they begin to practice the essence of their religion? It is clear, Arab masses have shifted sides. They prefer to live like loose freaks. They prefer to bury Islam, the purest and fairest Human Order that protects the weak and bereaved. They prefer laws of the jungle and the life style of cowboys.We can’t expect any peace soon to reverse Israeli and American’s wars against Arabs and Muslims until Arabs and Muslims are separated and sorted. Once the good is on the opposite side of the bad; hope becomes tangible and assured. Sura IV, The Women, Verse 179 from the Holy Qura’n defines victory in the most eloquent way.Treason is not just an ordinary crime. Almost every crime has borders. Treason is one crime that tops all other crimes inflicted on humans since the birth of Adam and Eve.
Let us move to another war zone, Iraq. Iraqi resistance fighters are fighting occupiers, yet are classified as terrorists. America lied to Americans; it lied to Iraqis; it lied to the world. America is still killing Iraqis; America is still occupying Iraq and robbing its wealth and resources. Are there brave people left in the world who can stand up and clearly point the finger at George W. Bush and his Zionist lieutenants without fear or prejudice? Can we all with one single and loud voice accuse them of the coldest and bloodiest crimes against humanity?What sadden me the most and burns my inside is the stupidity of Americans and Europeans. Americans, in particular, use a thin line of thinking when it comes to Palestinians and the Middle East in general. They see Israelis as the victim and Palestinians as the villain. It is understood that Americans is a society brainwashed by Evangelical Christians and fanatic Zionists through a sophisticated news media primarily owned by the Jewish Lobby.Zionists today are masters of luring individuals and converting them into classic terrorists. Massive killing of armless and defenseless Palestinians, specifically children, women and elders is the bait Zionists use. The Palestinians who bite on this bait, they resort to suicide bombing to avenge the loss of loved ones, properties, and above all, “hope”. Traitors trade their countries for money; sell the bodies of their mothers, sisters and daughters. The world won’t suffer a major loss if George W. Bush, Toni Blair, Ariel Sharon, Arab leaders and Arab kings vanished into thin air. Of course, this is only a wishful thinking. I predict the world is in for a long killing frenzy. The gang leader, George W. Bush won’t rest until half the world population is eliminated.





salahudeen rumi, Pakistan - 02 October, 2007

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