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Obituary: King Fahd

01 August, 2005

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Saudi Arabia's King Fahd, who moved his country closer to the United States but ruled in name only since suffering a stroke in 1995, has died, the Saudi royal court said. He was 82 and is succeeded by Crown Prince Abdullah.


1. How do you see King Fahd's death in the current geo political scenario ?


Reader Comments:

Sad

As we say, we have to return to the Lord, so here it is another closed chapter!

I hope the Saudi people would remain strengthened in this time grieve.



Akbar, Pakistan - 01 August, 2005

BBC quotes King Fahad as Drunk and Womanizer

BBC quotes King Fahad as Drunk and Womanizer

He had a reputation as a playboy in his youth, with allegations of womanising, drinking and gambling to excess. Indeed, it is claimed that he once lost more than $6m in one night at the Monte Carlo casino.

Link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/255097.stm

Rizwan Hafeez, Pakistan - 01 August, 2005

Who isn't it ?

Well, Rizwan can you name one King who has not been a womanizer and drunker ?

Islam in essence is against Kingdom, and these Saudi Royal Families have illegally occupied this pure land.

Why should I need Royal Families approval to perform my religious duty of going to Hajj ?

They have demolished all the shrines of great historical figures of Islam, to the extent that they have even demolished the shrine of Prophet's (pbuh) daughter in Janat-ul Baqi.

They are the ones who supported extremist elements in Pakistan and around the world by funding terrorists. Despite, all that, I don't think at this stage we should talk behind a dead man, however, Royal Family of Saudia in my view is illegal and I suggest Mecca and Madina should be given to OIC for governance rather than any particular royal family which was recently created in this century by Westerns to promote their agenda of OIL.

Against Royal Family, Pakistan - 01 August, 2005

Obituar: King Fahd

Perhapshe late King Fahd might be the last autocratic ruler in "Royal Kingdom of Saudi Arabia". Here is an account of a Crown Prince Abdullah's visit to America in April 2002 to meet President Bush. The President gave a Press Brirfing (April 26 2002) at the end of the meeting: Good morning. Thank you for joining me here. As you know, I spent a good portion of yesterday in the company of Saudi Araibiac (note the sarcasm in Bush's tone in this and subsequent discourse)
Crown Prince Abdullah. And while he departed hastily to return to his beloved sand people, I am pleased to claim that that our meetings were very productive and friendly. It was all very positive... The Prince and I spoke atlength about the ongoing situation between the Israelis and the Palestinos, and I have to tell you, he seemed pretty worked up over it. Why all the Muslims (look at his tone) people continue to squabble over that little swath of desert (he meant the West Bank of Palestine) with no oil under it I will never know. But the Prince was adamant - he says that unless mu administration stops playing footsy with Ariel Sharon - that all the kindergartoners in his country will stop being taught to wave sticks of dynamite and screech "Death to America", and start being taught to wave sticks of dynamite and screech "Super-Death to America"! I didn't like the sound of that. Not one bit... Of course, my administration remains firmly committed to preseving the appearance of friendliness with the Saudi Arabiac royals. Never mind that they nurture and support the very terrorists I have pledged to destroy. They also keep the tank of my beloved 3-ton ivory white pickup perpetually topped off, and for that I honor them."

The wind of "democracy" is fast approaching the out of date regimes and shopworn faces of rulers in the Muslim world. They will soon be swept away and replaced with "Young Turks".

By the way, the late King Fahd must have received a letter I addressed to him explaining to recognize the presence of Jews in Palestine by renaming Israel as a "Safe Haven". The catalyst of a powerful media would help him in creating a consensus in the Muslim Ummah. The Jewish fate is intertwined with Islam. And a similar letter, separately, was addressed to the Crown Prince. I regret, none of them, even acknowledged same. By burying their necks in sand, the Arab rulers cannot prolong their fragile and shaky existence. The only hope lies with the media to bring the subject matter in the open and create awareness among the masses to accept the wind of change.

Sher Mohammad, Pakistan - 01 August, 2005

Anyone against the KSA should understand that Pakistan benefits a lot from Saudi Riyals. If we don't like the Royals then perhaps we should also not recieve their money.

Also, lets not be bias because of our religious beliefs. Iran is equally responsible for spreading terror and religious haterd in Pakistan. It was Iran who gave up evidence against Pakistan's nuclear program.

Last but no least, KSA has provided excellent facilities for the Hajis and guests. As far as OIC is concerned, OIC is not even able to manage day to day affair without differences, then why should it rule over Mecca and Madina.


Imran Siddiqui, Pakistan - 02 August, 2005

Imran Siddiqui,

IAM 100% SURE THERE ARE SOME WHO HAVE BENEFITTED FROM SAUDI MONEY.THEY ARE ALSO WORKING FOR SAUDIES SPREADING THERE MESSAGE IN PAKISTAN.ZIAL-UL-HAQ WAS ONE OF THEM WHO RECEIVED THE FIRST CHQ.AND YES YOUR RELIGIOUS BIASED SHOWS YOU ARE CONFUSING THE LIBYANS WITH IRANIANS COMMEN MISTAKE IN PAKISTAN GOD FORBID IF WE BLAME WHERE THE BLAME LIES.ALL SANCTIONS AGAINST LIBYA HAVE BEEN LIFTED IRAN IS STILL UNDER SANCTIONS I GUESS WE NO WHO GOT REWARDED.(excellent facilities for the Hajis) I BELIVE THEY CHARGE FOR THEM AND THEY ARE NOT FREE OF CHARGE.AND ONE MORE THING YOU SHOULD READ (Sher Mohammad)POST AND LOOK AT THE COMPLETE FABRICATION OF LIES AND NOTHING BUT.YOUR KING WAS USE TO TRAVEL TO SPAIN ON HOLIDAYS SPENDING 5 MILLION US DOLLARS A DAY WHILE THERE IS MILIONS OF MUSLIMS IN AFFRICA .ASIA AND MIDDLE EAST STARVING.

Imran shah, Pakistan - 03 August, 2005

Loosing a sincere friend

Although sick yet his presence was a solace for muslims. God bless his sole.

Ishtiaq Ahmad, Pakistan - 04 August, 2005

May Allah Forgive him and Give him Jannat

I hope that Allah accepts the late HRH King Fahad's good deeds and forgives any bad ones.

For any failings of the muslim world, muslims should blame themslelves and put their own houses in order first and stop quarelling amongst our own kin, then the rehmat of Allah will fall upon us.

May God make the muslim community not disagree with each other.

May Allah strengthen the arms of islam and bring the rightly guided Mahdi soon. Aameen.

Mahmood Ahmed, United Arab Emirates - 05 August, 2005

Dear Mr. I. Shah,

Pakistan as a nation has benefited from the Saudi financial help. I was not talking about individuals but was speaking of the entire nation.

Also, lets get the facts straight, Libya was the first one to name Pakistan and then Iran followed. In 2005, Iran advised the Atomice commission that traces of weapon grade Uranium found on their equipments is because these equipments came from Pakistan!

Also, Saudis might charge the visa fees but the services provided are far better then what you expext for nominal charge.

I certainly hope that the sanctions on Iran are lifted and they prosper but the fact remains that KSA has done far more for Pakistan than Iran.

Last but not least, late Fahad was not my king but he was a Muslim and we know to show some respect to the dead.

Imran Siddiqui, Pakistan - 05 August, 2005

Amust read
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4737657.stm

Imran Siddiqui, Canada - 06 August, 2005

Domestic Saudi Arabian consequences after King Fahd

The death of the King presents a great challenge for the House of Saud - it remains to be seen if the successor, the standing Crown Prince Abdullah, will consolidate his position and exercise effective personal control over the future of Saudi Arabian policy, in the face of rival claimants with vastly differing aspirations. I myself wonder if the dynastic consensual model of political decision-making behind closed doors will provide stability in the current succession, or future successions. Given the potential for instability in Saudi Arabia to profoundly affect world affairs, the aftermatgh of King Fahd's death is a matter for close observation, and prudent preparation for the unexpected.

Larry Cook, Aruba - 06 August, 2005

We mourn King Fahd's death

King Fahd although a seemingliy controversial Muslim, was a human being. May his soul rest in peace

An Indian, Hungary - 08 August, 2005

Dear Mr.Siddiqui

Perhaps this will help http://torontosun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2005/08/07/1162633.html
iam 100% positive u have never been to arabia.other wise u would no how thet treat bakistanies in that country. idid read that web page you posted and we are know paying for so called islamic culture created by zia-ul-haq.iam sure u are aware of suicide bombers.about Iran again iranians were left with no choice as the libyan were kind enough to spill the beans second and most important it was libya that have given the IEAE. all the material and blue prints in a jumbo jet sent to washington d.c.and for most part i still dont understand which money from arabia u keep refering to the one pakistanies work for or the one that goes to mad-rasshas.who in turn creat fighters who kill every body that dont belive in same as them.and for the last part.i belive the hypocrasy shows for the king in your posted web page (he lived the life of luxury)while average palestinian or arabian dont even have enough to live life in peace.and for the last its in islam you are not muslim if other muslims are not safe from your actions.and i belive 1000s of namazi blown up by terrorist financed by late king.oh i almost forgot there is no such thing as monarch in islam .i sure hope you read the page i posted this will help you and the others understand what goes on in the world thats outside pakistan.

Imran shah, Pakistan - 09 August, 2005

Great Loss

It is a great loss for muslim ummah. I have no words to praise him. he did a great for the muslim. i expect the same from the new king. he has a vision for the muslims. but at this juncture he has to carefully take the muslims out of the situation which we are facing. our religion is being targeted by the US and this has to stop. he is the man who can get us out of this situation. I will always pray for him.

Mosab Jamil, Pakistan - 12 August, 2005

SUPRISED..

Suprised the I.R.A has not blowen up every mosk..in THE U.K buy now..

KALVIN, United Kingdom - 14 August, 2005

84 years of royalty... 23 years of kingship... To me he was immortal- And now hes just dead. It was a sad day in Mudville. May his soul rest in peace.

Euphoria, - 16 August, 2005

To KALVIN, U .S. A

Dont Be surprrised kalvin the Americans are killing innocent in Iraq and Afghanistan since 1990 and blowing up peoples houses and place of worship.I am surrprised no one Told you that yet or u just Ignorent to see the millions killed by Americans and british.so u see british and americans have been killing muslims so IRA dosent have to do what the americans have been doing for long long time.

Ali, Pakistan - 16 August, 2005

Fahd a US Stooge

Now that Fahd has died , condolences from all over will shower to Saudi Arabia , the Muslim world must first realise that he was not leader of the Muslims , he was just a ruler made on his own and not selected or elected by the people democratically , he was a US stooge , he propagated the Wahabi school of Islam which divided the Muslims the world over , even now the wounds of this division have not healed . The Wahabi school of Islam has been rejected outrightly by the Muslims every where , it is just being forced on us by strong arm tactics , .

The Ruling family has made Oil , Diesel , Gas and other resources as its own property , but the fact is that it is the property of the Muslim Ummah and the Ummah is to benefit from it , but a few vested people are enjoying the luxury and the poor Muslims are suffering every where , the Muslims are the weakest the world over but the fact is that we are the richest in Natural Resources , but due to our Illeteracy and ignorance these families are using us and these resources , it is due to our Holy Prophet's (saws) blessings and his presence that the Arabian Gulf has so much of natural resources , the Arabs are using it for their own purpose and their luxurious lifes , while we the Ummah suffer everywhere , never have these people raised their voices for us and against the injustices done to us all over the world . In Bosnia 400,000 Muslims lost their Lifes , in Kashmir 100,000 people have lost their lifes and still people are dying .

Tanvir Ahmed, Hungary - 17 August, 2005

Fahd never cared about the Muslims

Fahd led the Kingdom and not an Islamic republic this has to be noted by the Muslim Ummah and not walk and roam blindly like animals , there are so many accounts of the Saudi Royals making merry both men and women . While their religious adversaries dictate strict Islamic (Wahabi) code for other Muslims and non -Arabs but the Royal families are an exception , these are double standards imposed on us , we follow much better than the Arabs or these Wahabi Royals and we dont need any one to dictate that to us and instead see in their own backyards . Fahd called the US & UK foces in the Holy Lands to protect the Wahabis kingdom from the fellow Iraqis and the events following are the Iraq war which still refuses to die down thanks to the policies of FAHD , who had signed a 99 year old contract with the US to protect Saudi Oil instalations and refineries and the Wahabi Royal family ,

Tanvir Ahmed, Hungary - 18 August, 2005

peace

life is complicated enough we have such a simple and easy answer to peace in society salam one voice we as humans can not even work that out.you dont need dictators u need harmony and tranquility one message one which u have been given and one voice salam from uk

nadeem karim, United Arab Emirates - 29 November, 2005

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