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Obama: Good or Bad for Pakistan?

10 November, 2008

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"In one of the more heated moments of one presidential debate, Mr. Obama, the then Democratic presidential nominee, argued that he would take the war to Osama bin Laden`s cave door, whether Pakistan cooperated or not. In plain words what Mr. Obama was proclaiming was that he would not shy away from striking inside Pakistan. These are the kind of words that can spell disaster for Pakistan and the region. Critics also say that the US under Obama is likely to crack the whip, much more sharply than what the Bush administration has done in the past few months, even as it dangles the carrot. While counter-critics say that after a few briefings as the President of United States about the ground situation in FATA, President Obama is sure to sober up."

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    Will Obama catch Osama

    America's actions are one thing and let us hope that the tiger does not pay too much attention to the whispers of the Indian monkey riding its back to complicate matters from bad to worse.Already suicidal bonmings within Pakistan have been reported to be financed by the monkey that has established its action network through intelligence and money facilitations to naive people of NWFP and through infilterated Afghans while the Indian diplomatic missions have been suspect of generating ill deeds through infesting with arms and money for terror network all over Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan.

    Obama will be seeking peace through peace,or peace through war.Most likely, it will be peace through peace as the world is infected by so many wars now that it could lead to the big WW3 even though little Pakistan is not a candidate at all for propensity for the Armageddon.

    Most probably, it will be like obama's opening message to the world and it was as such:

    "WE WANT PEACE FOR ALL."

    If Obama keeps to those words, then the road or path will be much glorious.It may become a mystery as there were reports that Osama was killed in Tora Bora heavy bombings in Afghanistan.And there were also reports that dozens of look alikes of Osama existed to confuse it even further.And the tragedies of Waziristan and the suicidal bobings within Pakistan have been much kinked up with too many inter-posing, even opposingly false or wrong feed back.

    WILL THE WEST'S ENERGY SECURITY OR INSECURITY FROM 1973-74 MIDDLE EAST WAR, OIL EMBARGO BY KING FAISAL, MURDER OF KING FAISAL, IRANIAN REVOLUTION,SADDAM'S INVASION OF IRAN AND THEN MOST DRAMATICAL CAPTURE OF KUWAIT, FIRST GULF WAR, 9/11, SECOND GULF WAR AND BOMBINGS OF WAZIRISTAN WILL PRECIPITATE NOW INTO "PEACE FOR ALL" OR WILL IT BE BUSH-CHENNY CONTINUITY THROUGH DIFFERENT MODES OF ACTION OR EVEN WAR OR PEACE ACTS.

    WITH HANDS OF BIG AND SMALL POWERS TIED AND PAKISTAN HAVING NO ROLL TO BRING IT ALL ABOUT, PUNISHING PAKS JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.AND HOW MUCH PROMINENT ARE THE HANDS OF THE INDIAN MONKEY RIDING AMERICA'S BACK IS AN OTHER BIG QUESTION WORTHY OF INVESTIGATION.INDIA''S GENEROUS FINANCE FACILITATION TO DRAW PAK BLOOD THROUGH SUICIDAL BOMBINGS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY MANY RED HANDED WOULD BE BOMBERS ADMIT OF THE REAL CUPLRIT.

    OBAMA WILL BE STRUGGLING BETWEEN TWO THINGS.HE WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN CONSOLIDATING THE ENERGY SECURITY THAT AMERICA NOW HAS WITH OIL FROM SAUDI ARABIA, ABU DHABI, IRAQ, KUWAIT AND LIBYA UNDER THEIR CONTROL OR TO FIND FRONT LINE BASES TO COUNTER AMERICA'S STRONG MILITARY ADVERSARIES.PAKISTAN IS A LITTLE, YET VERY IMPORTANT STRATEGIC WISE AND PAKS HAVE A VERY CLEAR AND DECIDED POLICY OF NOT TO BE PART OF WW3 EQUATION THAT IS RIGHT THERE NOW LOOMING TO DESTROY MANKIND ONCE AND FOR ALL.PAKS LOVE ONLY PEACE AND HAVE NO DESIRE TO BE PART OF COMING DANGERS THAT ARE THERE.

    MAY BE OBAMA WILL BE TRYING TO DIG THE MOUNTAIN AND MAY NOT EVEN FIND THE MOUSE.BUT, PAKS ON THEIR PART HAVE SACRIFICED ENOUGH TO PEACE BY TERROR MITIGATION FOR TERROR FREE WEST.AMERICA HAS NOT EVEN FLY KILLED IN US THROUGH TERROR SINCE 9/11.PAKS DO NOT HATE ANY ANY COUNTRY AND AMERICA AND CHINA ARE PARTICULARLY ADMIRED BY PAKS.PAKS ARE SACRIFICING TO KEEP THE WEST AND ITS ENERGY SECURITY VERY SAFE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WERE THE PAKS THAT MADE AMERICA THE SOLE SUPER POWER AS THE WATERLLO TYPE CONSEQUENCES THAT MADE BRITAIN THE SOLE SUPER POWER IN 1815.

    BUT OBAMA MAY BE DOING SIMILAR THINGS THAT OTHER SOLE SUPER POWERS DID IN HISTORY TO SAVE THEIR STATUS.OTTOMAN TURKS LOST HALF THEIR MALE POPULATION TO SAVE THE SOLE SUPER POWER STATUS.THE ROMANS LOST VERY BIG PERCENTAGE OF THEIR MALE POPULATINS IN CRUSADES TO PROTECT THEIR SIMILAR STATUS.BLEEDING AND MASACARED PERSIA HAD TO OFFER ITS WOMEN TO ALEXANDER THE GREAT AND HIS ARMY IN TENS OF THOUSANDS IN THE BIGGEST MASS WEDDINGS IN HISTORY TO ADMIT THEIR FALL.AND BRITAIN ALSO DID LARGE NUMBER OF THEIR MEN IN TWO AFGHAN WARS IN WHICH RUSSIA TRAINED AND ARMED AFGHAN FIGHTERS TO BRING DOWN BRITAIN FROM SOLE SUPER POWER STATUS TO THE SUPER POWER ONE AND THAT RESULTED IN FIRST AND SECOND WORLD WARS.

    WILL OBAMA PERSUE REAL PEACE, WHICH IS PEACE THROUGH PEACE, OR WILL HE ADMIX PEACE WITH BOMBINGS OF PARTS OF NWFP AND THAT MIGHT INVOLVE AMERICA'S REAL FOES AT LEAST IN TRAINING OF AFGHAN AND CENTRAL ASIAN GUERRILA WARIORS.

    PAKISTAN IS SACRIFICING TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR US-NATO BY MITIGATING THE FLUX OF ARMED MEN AND WEAPONS IN EITHER DIRECTION.

    PAKISTAN IS WORKING VERY HARD, EVEN BLEEDING PROFUSELY TO KEEP AMERICA AND WEST SAFE AND ALSO INTACT WITH THE ENERGY SECURITY ACHIEVED AFTER TWO GULF WARS AND THE 9/11, WHICH WAS THE CAUSE OF THE FIRST GULF WAR AND THE RESULT INTO SECOND GULF WAR.

    BUT, MOST IMPORTANT, PAKS HAVE GREAT HOPES IN GLOBAL PEACE FROM THE WORDS ON OBAMA'S BECOMING PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE RICHIEST, MIGHTIEST AND MOST ADVANCED NATION IN HISTORY.AND OBAMA'S FAMOUS WORDS ARE:

    "WE WANT PEACE FOR ALL"



    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 10 November, 2008

    Obama 50/50 Faith with Enormous Expectation

    Democratic victory transformed Harvard Lawyer Barack Obama. Was it meant to be name as Mubarack Hussein by A Muslim father from kenya and a white Kansas Mother who had Married again to a second Indonesian Muslim .The silent O Ba Ma Hussein with publicity on Iraq reminds me Sadam Hussein who was a No WMD Military Man and a Lawyer from Egypt himself..Obama promised to end Iraq war and bring US soldiers home cutting big needless expenses.White Americans have sponsored him and have elected him. Obama will likely place his hand on a Bible on Jan. 20 and will take the oath of office using 2(Surah Baqra):4 who believe in Quran sent to thee and in Bible Torah sent before thee.Obama moves into the Oval Office emphasizing strategy or his current faith of convenience while fate of Iraq Iran Pakistan Afghanistan hang by a thin thread .Some Banks in the U.S.have failed. Land House prices collapsed and financial crisis swept him to victory . US Power is in decline, the culture is in decay, the democracy is in trouble with fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, shortfall was noticed as an astounding record high US$455 billion which may or may not climb past US$1 trillion depending upon How Obama can fulfill his many campaign promises such as tax cut, subsidized universal health insurance, and spending on alternative energy while consumers feeling poor. Obama promised that every dollar of increased spending would be matched by a spending cut. Obama can increase spending to disaster by going for war with Iran Pakistan Afghanistan Iraq via muslim freedom fighters and Muslim World UMMA.Social Security will start paying out more while shrinking more US resource The Medicare system Shoring will give entitlement nightmare.Obama promised $10 billion a month in Iraq cut immediately 154,000 U.S. troops are still serving.Bill Clinton as Obama envoy to tackle Kashmir (IHK PHK) seem good strategy if feasible.Hilary Clinton use in his team could also improve his choices and image.The US diplomacy and ceasefires with least U.S. troops to act as peacekeepers will minimize incidents . U.S. already has 34,000 troops in Afghanistan which need to be pulled out too making peace with Muslim Jihad fighters.US military has sent some 20 air strikes against Jihadist Taliban and al-Qaeda in Pakistan.Obama learned the lesson of Shia vs Sunni while living 3 weeks in Pakistan.For meSunnis are republican and Shia came into origin as Democrats to install Hazrat Ali RAUUS is worst for CO and poison emission in air.Alternative energy and emission controlWithout attack on Muslims is requisite.What is alternative energy ? Why squander current energy in the first place to be called blood sucker fossil fuels based on old blood water and Body cell etc of past inhabitants.World including USA need clean water air road homes health and education.What will not help Obama is inexperience lack of technical knowledge hufr and lack of Iman like other Muslims in many OIC Oil Sheiks and Israel Pleasing business strategy in this wonderful Opportunity Obama Has created in superb Strategy and Skill by winning the Hearts and votes of White Americans with 50/50 black Hussein White Ann Durham background via his learning in Muslim Indonesia and US universities (including Harvard Law School) and past or current Iman.

    Z.Billo, United Arab Emirates - 10 November, 2008

    Why hope in Obama why not in ALLAH(s.w.t) BLESSINGS{AJAR in ISLAM) and Prophet Mohammad(s.w.w) TEACH

    Bismillah Airahaman Airahiem

    Assalam-o-Alikum

    Why hope in Obama why not in ALLAH(s.w.t) BLESSINGS{AJAR in ISLAM) and Prophet Mohammad(s.w.w) TEACHINGS{AMANAT of ISLAM) ?

    My question is to ENTIRE ISLAMIC-WORLD the Muslims and Muslim-Countries LEADERS and WHOLE ISLAMIC-COUNTRIES MUSLIM-PUBLIC why bind your hopes to this or that WEST-LEADERS why not have FAITH in ISLAM and by serving CORRECT-GUIDE-LINES of ISLAM Muslims could achieve ALLAH(s.w.t) PROMISES that World shall be at the desposal of those who believe in ALLAH(s.w.t) SYSTEM and NOT that of any OTHER SYSTEM. Obama is now Chgief of US thus US conduct UN and Europe is at par with Muslims with Din but the WEST is supporting Muslims whom reley ONLY on Duniya and not Din. Any Muslim who binds his hopes to WEST is already doin Sherq because WEST is Land of Sherq run by Mushrek-System and that is why World-Wide is INJUSTICE because of Sherq-Dictation. Obama is NOT Muslim thus does he support Islamic-System ofcourse NO a BIG NO while Obama is ONLY for Sherq-System where WEST is versus ISLAM and thus also against Muslim-Systems and contra all Islamic-Regiems. Is Pakistan NOT made under Islamic-Hopes is Pakistan NOT an Islamic-Republic of Pakistan was Pakistan NOT made for Muslims as in DEMAND against British-Rule then WHY are you accepting again WESTERN-DOMINATION is this NOT another kind of ENSLAVEMENT ? If Pakistan has got the A-Bomb TECHNOLOGY then WHY Pakistan is NOT getting VETO-VOTE at UNO because all VETO-POWER-HOLDING countries have A-Bomb-Technology. The World Economy is being dictated through Technology and Economy can also be PROTECTED through Technology. The First is Technology why NOT Pakistan TAKE the DEFENCE-PROTECTION Contracts of Mid-East including Iran and Oil-Rich-Countries also in Latin-America instead of these countries seeking PROTECTION from America or Russia or France or England. The Red-Indians LAND was America they were murdered by WHITES to get BLACKS there not the MISTAKE of Blacks but Blacks were DISPLACED through WHITES and then BLACKS were made to FIGHT for WHITES as Buffalo-Soldiers also Civil-War of America in the name of LIBERATION of SLAVERY BUT under False-Promises that till 1964 BLACKS (Afro-Americans) had NO-RIGHT to VOTE, later Blacks were made to Fight along Whites in the First-World-War and Second-World-War and in Korea-War and Vietnam-War while till 1964 they had NO-RIGHT-TO-VOTE thus they were put out of Political-Representation. Now Obama is answer to Blacks-Hopes BUT not Right-Away to Muslim-Hopes to be clear on this Statement. The Priority is about Blacks Rights and NOT Muslim Rights while in SERVICE to First-Americans and LATER fullfilling the HOPES of OTHERS. In China the Chinese People have made less fuss about Obama to Chinese come's China FIRST and Obama as LAST but in Muslim-Countries and Islamic-Countries Obama is Hope upon Fate for Muslims because of the Leadership attachments to USA. Why NOT get Military-Assistance under Defence-Pact with China because China is the Future, if Muslims get involved with china they can HELP more conversion to Islam than that of remaning on the Hanging-Rope of WEST whom despise ISLAM. The Justice in the WEST is based upon Code of Rome administered through Code of Napoleon. In China Laws are more CLOSE to ISLAM than that of the WEST. Why Pakistan does NOT IMPOSE Islamic-Laws thus Sharia. Obama want's Pakistan A-Bomb ADVANCEMENT clouser and also that of Iran but he never mentioned Israel A-Bomb Dictation against Arabs Muslims and Arabs Christians or India A-Bomb against Pakistan-Muslims and World-Islamists Submission. Obama is a PRODUCT of WEST whom always been against ISLAM. In Dutch Law and WESTERN-LAWS are Muslims or Islam never mentioned while Jews-Protection or Jews-Integration or Jews-Facilitations is refered while WEST got most of TRADING-Profits in SURPLUS from Muslims and yet WEST is against ISLAM but why Muslims do not see this or have Muslims become BLIND in accordance to Quran that such people are BLIND. Any Muslim who associate with Mushreqs has chosen munnafiqat because on grounds of comromising Truth of Islam with False of Sherq. The Human Values are at STAKES under the WEST Political-Inductions. The Democray of WEST brought Bureaucracy in Coalition and Sel-Rule AUTONOMY which was CURROPTED through WEST versus UNITY of Muslims under ISLAM. The Democrates or Republicans of USA both are an INSULT to Humanity the Reality can be seen in that Democrate-President Truman ordered A-Bomb bombardment of Japan why America do not want to dismental its own A-Bomb FIRST and then dictate others against A-Bomb.
    Obama said he would like to Pull-Out of Iraq and ADVANCE in Afghanistan and also wish's to Control-Pakistan Political-Agenda thus Pakistani-public ASPIRATIONS is this NOT an ATTACK on Muslims of Pakistan and also ISLAM showing the INTENTIONS of WEST thus Product of WEST shall always be for WEST and not for Islam or Muslims.

    Sincerely

    Mr.F.Koch

    Al-Haj.Faridullah Koch (Founder & Chairperson of Islamitsiche Partij Nederl, Netherlands - 10 November, 2008

    Neither can be Good nor Bad

    Obama is a human being like us and is a creature, created by Creator. Therefore he has no role in doing anything. ALLAH is the supreme power and he can change the minds and situations of the universe. Russia was super power. Anyone tell me how became like a dust? Every nation that reach to the peak, fall one day.

    S.A. Marwat, Canada - 11 November, 2008

    Do what you got to do to get things done right!

    If Bush would have done the job right and gone after osama we wouldn't have to go into pakistan.

    joe opalka, United Kingdom - 11 November, 2008

    Out of synch

    Obama's statement about Osama is a bit of a misplaced at present. The world has almost forgotten him. The real challenge is providing a secure and viable governance to Iraq and Afghanistan, without letting these countries collapse into civil wars and eternal strife.

    Aditya B, Hungary - 11 November, 2008

    We want peace for all

    Energy consumption of a country is the direct gadget of a nstion's status of grandness in the world and Pakistan and Afghanistan are those most inportant links that will make or break the energy dictated status of super powers of future.

    Energy was the cause of first and second world wars as Britain and America were trying their best that the newely risen super power Germany could not have control on middle east oil as oil was to become the most vibrant and the only resource base to dominate the world.And the world had relative peace from the time of Britain's emergence as sole super power in 1815 war of Waterloo until the first world war in 1914, when Germany could challenge Great Britain to share in big oil boom coming.Germany wanted the part of global oil share as it proved the oil had played key role to create car cultures and related moblity and grandness of nations besides supporting big rise in global population by drastically increasing food production through use of fertillizers again produced from helping gas and oil.Before 1914,the world had famines even on supporting 1.5 billion people.But,since WW1 WORLD POPULATION HAS JUMPED TO OVER 6 BILLION PEOPLE AND ENERGY AND FERTILLIZERS RELATED FOOD HAS SUCCESSFULLY KEPT THE WORLD GROWING WITHOUT FAMINE.IT IS ALL THE WONDERS OF OIL AND GAS.

    SO,THE WEST WAS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE WORLD AS IT CONTROLLED THE WORLD'S ENERGY RESOURCES.GERMANY HAD BEEN ELIMINATED FROM ENTERING INTO SHARING THE WORLD'S OIL AND GAS THROUGH TWO WORLD WAES AND AT COST OF 150 MILLION HUMAN LIVES.

    WITH THE DEMISE OF GERMANY FROM CHALLENGING THE WEST AFTER WW2, RUSSIA BECAME MILITARY CHALLENGE ONLY WITH NO OIL AND GAS RELATED COMPARABLE ECONOMY.AT ITS VERY HEY DAYS,RUSSIA WAS REFINING ONLY 4 MILLION BARRELS PER DAY COMPARED TO 16-20 MBPD OF EACH AMERICA AND EUROPE.THOUGH IN GAS PRODUCTION AND USE RUSSIA WAS BIG ENOUGH.WITH HARDLY ANY CAR CULTURE LIKE AMERICA AND FEATHER LIGHT TRAFFIC IN MOSCOW AND OTHER RUSSIAN CITIES,RUSSIA JUST COULD NOT SUSTAIN ITS SUPER POWER STATUS LIKE AMERICA.

    BUT,IN 1990,AMERICA AND THE WEST HAD REAL ENERGY IN-SECURITY AND THERE WAS BIG DANGER TO THE ECONOMIES OF THE WEST AS SADAM'S IRAQ HAD CAPTURED KUWAIT AND AMERICA WAS LEFT WITH CONTROL ON OIL OF ONLY SAUDI ARABIA AND ABU-DHABI AS TWO OF THE SEVEN BIGGEST OIL PRODUCERS AND HOLDERS OF OIL RESERVES.SO, THE FIRST GULF WAR WAS FOUGHT TO AT LEAST DIS-LODGE ONE COUNTRY KUWAIT TO BRING THE SCORE TO THREE OUT OF SEVEN.I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT 9/11 WAS THE PRODUCT OF FIRST GULF WAR OF 1990 AS MANY RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS WANTED TO SEE THE ISLAMIC WORLD FREE FROM THE PRESENCE OF OUTSIDE.SECOND GULF WAR OF 2003 BROUGHT THE WEST'S SCORE TO FOUR OUT OF SEVEN AS IRAQ'S OIL ALSO CAME UNDER WEST'S CONTROL.

    OBAMA'S CALL TO PEACE FOR ALL WILL BE WELCOME MIRACLE BY THE PAKS AND THE WORLD AS AMERICA WILL BE TRYING TO MAINTAIN ENERGY SECURITY SECURED FOR THE WEST AFTER SECOND GULF WAR AND BY CREATING FRONT LINE DEFENSES AGAINST AMERICA'S ADVERSARIES.

    PAKISTAN WILL BE UNDER CONSTANT WATCH BECAUSE OF ITS CAPACITY TO BRING CHINA UP AS COMPARABLE ENERGY SUPPORTED SUPER POWER.PAKISTAN WAS THE KEY TO MAKE AMERICA SOLE SUPER POWER BECAUSE OF PAK MOST IMPORTANT GEO-STRATEGY.PAKS CAN FACILITATE CHINA WITH THE SAME GEO-STRATEGICAL LOCATION.CHINA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT WITH PAKS HELP COULD, FIRST TIME EVER, BE COMPARABLE TO AMERICA IN ENERGY CONSUMPTION OVER THE NEXT 1-2 DECADES.CHINA'S OIL REFINING IS 8 MBPD COMPARED TO AMERICA'S 20 MBPD.CHINA IS THE COUNTRY WITH 2 TRILLION DOLLARS FOREX RESERVES AND WITH HEALTHY 300 BILLION DOLLARS ANNUAL TRADE SURPLUS WITH CAPACITY TO SPEND 1 TRILLION DOLLARS EACH REQUIRED TO DEVELOPE AND UPGRADE OIL FIELDS AND GAS PIPELINES TO BRING OIL FROM IRAN-CENTRAL ASIA AND AFRICA ON ONE HAND THROUGH PAKISTAN AND ALSO BRING SOME OIL FROM RUSSIA ON THE OTHER HAND.THAT WILL BOOST CHINA'S OIL REFINING CAPACITY FROM 8 MBPD TO 12-13 MBPD.SO, RUSSIA AND GERMANY NEVER WERE, BUT CHINA WILL BE THE FIRST ENERGY SUPPOERTED COMPARABLE ECONOMIC SUPER POWER TO BECOME AS BIG SUPER POWER LIKE AMERICA AND DROP AMERICA'S STATUS FROM SOLE SUPER POWER TO ONLY SUPER POWER LIKE ITSELF AS RISEN CHINA.INDIA WILL NEVER BE THERE AS IT DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DEVELOPE AND UPGRADE THE OIL FIELDS OF IRAN, AFRICA AND RUSSIA.YOU NEED 2000 BILLION DOLLARS PLUS FOR THAT AND ONLY CHINA HAS THAT MONEY.INDIA'S FOREX RESERVES HAVE DROPPED TO 250 B DOLLARS AND ARE STILL DROPPING HEAVILY EVERY WEEK.THE BEST INDIA CAN DO WILL BE TO SECURE ONLY HALF MILLION BPD,BUT INDIA ALSO HAS HEAVY EXTERNAL DEBT OF OVER 200 BILLION DOLLARS.SO, CHINA WILL BE THE ONLY COUNTRY EVER TO COMPARE WITH AMERICA'S OIL REFINING CAPACITY AND BE GRAND LIKE AMERICA.

    SINCE,THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT PAK HELP HAS THE CAPACITY TO FACILITATE ENERGY ROUTES TO CHINA,PAKS HAVE TO PLAY PEACE AND NEUTRALITY CARDS TO MAXIMISE ITS USEFULNESS AND STAY SAFE AT THE SAME TIME.

    OBAMA IS JUST THE KEY PLAYER,BUT PAKS GEO STRATEGY MUST FUNCTIN WITHIN PEACE.

    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 11 November, 2008

    Obama, America and Pakistan

    America would'nt be around Pakistan if it was not its geo-strategy related to the world's energy life lines near by and if Pakistan was not the prime land to build front line bases to deter the adversaries of the west.

    THANKS GOD THAT PAKS ARE PLAYING WITH PEACE AND SECURITY BY KEEPING THE COUNTRY ENGAGED MOSTLY IN DEVELOPMENT LIKE FACILITATION AND KEEPING FOREIGN MILITARIES GENERALLY OUT EVEN AT THE COST OF SOME BLEEDING OF ITSELF.THERE IS NO MAJOR WAR OR MEGA BLEEDINGS IN PAKISTAN DUE TO THIS QUEST OF ONLY PEACE BY PAKS.EVEN INDIA IS KEPT TAME AND PACIFIED ON WAR REASONS.

    AND OIL AND GAS ENERGY DOES'NT COME EASY WAYS AND THERE ARE STEADY BIG EXPENSES IN PRODUCTION AND MAITAINING AND UPGRADING OF OIL FIELDS.IF SAUDI ARABIA GOT 160 BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF ITS 400-500 BILLION DOLLARS SALE OF OIL IN 2007, THERE WERE BIG EXPENSES AS WELL.AND BESIDES, AMERICA SPENDS A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THOSE EXPENSES TO UPGRADE OIL FIELDS.THE AMERICAN CONTROLLED OIL FIELDS IN MIDDLE EAST HAVE THEREFORE BEEN MAINTAINED WHEREAS IRAN'S AND RUSSIA'S OIL FIELDS NEED INFLUX OF AT LEAST 1500 BILLION DOLLARS TO DO NECESSARY UPGRADING FOR SUSTAINING OIL PRODUCTION.IRAN, DUE TO SUCH NEEDED NEEDS, REQUIRES MONEY INPUT AS IT CAN PRODUCE ONLY 4 MBPD COMPARED TO 6.5 MBPD IN 1979.RUSSIA NEEDS AT LEAST 1000 BILLION DOLLARS SPENDING TO UPGRADE ITS OIL FIELDS AS THE WORLD'S OIL PRODUCTION STAYS STAGNATED AT 85 MBPD.

    ONLY CHINA HAS THE MONEY TO DO THAT JOB AND PAKISTAN COULD BECOME THE KEY ROUTE OF FACILITATING THE FLOW OF AT LEAST 1.5 MBPD FROM MIDDLE EAST, CENTRAL ASIA AND AFRICA TO CHINA AS STRAIT OF MALACCA AS OTHER ROUTE IS NOW SATURATED OR IS INCAPACITATED FOR SECURITY REASONS.ONLY CHINA HAS THE MONEY TO SECURE OIL AND PAKISTAN HAS THE SHORTEST AND SAFEST ROUTE TO FACILTATE OIL FOR CHINA FROM THE MOST PROLIFICLY PROMISING SOURCES OF IRAN, AFRICA AND CENTRAL ASIA.CHINA IN RETURN CAN BOOST PAK PROSPERITY BESIDES ACHIEVING THE REQUIRED MUST TO REFINE THAT 12-13 MBPD OF OIL COMPARED TO AMERICA'S 19-20 MBPD AND WITH POTENTIAL TO BE THE ONLY SUPER POWER TO RIVAL AMERICA.AND THAT BIG HELP CAN BE FROM PAKISTAN.THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN PAKS CHINA RELATED PROSPERITY IS TO FUNCTION IT UNDER UMBRELLA OF PEACE AND PEACE ONLY.LET'S HOPE THAT OBAMA'S HISTORICAL WORDS OF,"WE WANT PEACE FOR ALL" APPLY TO PAKISTAN BEFORE THEY APPLY TO ANY BODY ELSE.BESIDES, CHINA AND INDIA BOTH WILL BE RUNNING OUT OF COAL FOR POWER GENERATION AND STEEL MAKING AND WILL BE LOOKING AT PAKISTAN'S SECOND LARGEST COAL RESERVES IN THE WORLD.INDIA'S ROAD TO SUPER POWER DREAMS COULD SOON GET TERMINATED BECAUSE OF ENERGY INSECURITY AND THE LACK OF MONEY TO ACHIEVE IT. BUT, CHINA'S 2000 BILLION DOLLARS FOREX RESERVES AND 300 BILLION DOLLARS ANNUAL TRADE SURPLUS WITH HARDLY ANY DEBT COULD IMPOSE CHINA'S CAPABILITY AND POTENTIAL TO BE NEXT SUPER POWER TO RIVAL AMERICA.

    AND PAKISTAN IS THAT EASY PASSAGE OF ENERGY TO CHINA, AND FOR THAT AMERICA WILL BE AROUND FOR VIGILENT WATCH.LET US PRAY THAT THE WATCH IS PEACEFUL UNDER THE GUISE THAT OBAMA'S AMERICA WANTS PEACE FOR ALL WITH PAKISTAN AS THE FIRST BENEFICIARY OF THAT PEACE FOR ALL PERSUIT.

    CHINA WILL BE SUPER POWER IF IT ACHIEVES 12 MBPD OIL REFINING CAPACITY AND BUILDS FOUR GAS PIPE LINES FROM RUSSIA, IRAN AND CENTRAL ASIA.PAKISTAN COULD BENIFIT DRASTICALLY WITH ECONOMIC BOOST IN THE PROCESS.LET IT BE UNDER "PEACE FOR ALL" WISH OF OBAMA.WAR IS SIN, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT NO MATTER WHO IS INVOLVED.

    AND TO SEE AMERICAN TIGER, CHINESE DRAGON WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND RUSSIAN BEAR CAN KEEP THE INDIAN WOLF AT BAY FROM PAKISTAN.AND INDIA WILL NEVER EVER BECOME SUPER POWER LIKE AMERICA AND CHINA DUE TO INDIA'S TERRIBLE CONDITION OF ENERGY SECURITY AND DISMAL LACK OF FUNDS TO ACHIEVE THAT GRANDLY AUSPICIOUS STATUS OF SUPER POWER THAT COMES ONLY THROUGH ENERGYSECURITY.

    LET US SAY IN UNISON,THOSE FAMOUS WORDS OF OBAMA THAT ARE RELATED TO GLOBAL AND PAK PEACE AS SUCH:

    "WE WANT PEACE FOR ALL."

    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 11 November, 2008

    WHy should Obama see things from Pakistan's perspective.?

    This is a stupid question.Obama is an American he will see everything from American angle.It is only muslims who are stupid enough to be very lax and accomodative on these issues.Thats why muslims suffer and will continue to suffer.

    M.Khan MD, United Kingdom - 11 November, 2008

    Obama will be good as long as the Pak army and ISI stay away from the double game of protecting certain section of the Taliban. Obama will not be good when the Pak army and ISI would not go after the Taliban hideouts. He has made it amply loud and clear, that the US would strike the hideouts, when Pakistan would drag their feet.

    neeel288, Pakistan - 12 November, 2008

    The Change and Chances with Obama

    The world is immensely satisfied on Obama's success in the recently concluded elections for the U.S. President and its leaders are edging to be amongst the earliest in extend felicitations to Barack Obama, the President elect. While doing so, they openly display their expectations from him to be a welcome change for changing the 'New World Disorder' established by his predecessor into a 'New world order of Hope' to create this planet a better place to live in harmony with each other, everywhere.

    As his first initiative after entering the "White House", the whole world is eagerly expecting Obama to establish an open arms policy on Iraq, Afghanistan and all other places of the world in turmoil and create sanity in actions to un-earth reality about Osama bin Laden and the Terror attributed to him. He should welcome all sincere offers for cooperation in all relevant areas of his new efforts which he should start without reservations on existing scenario. His policy for the purpose should be in realizing the fact that no effort can succeed in establishing humanity unless human minds are freed from the influence of Adrenalin. Sanity of actions can only emerge from free and sane minds, while aggression triggers Adrenalin which blocks all mental activities other fighting back in danger. A man thinking and planning only wars without giving sanity a chance practically becomes a savage animal devoid of reasoning.
    With Iraq already moving towards somewhat stability, Obama shall have to concentrate his earliest attentions on Afghanistan. For achieving acceptable positive results in Afghanistan, Obama should keep in mind that, Afghans are known to possess high concentration of Adrenalin in their system. Aggression blinds their minds but they are easily convinced by kindness. They seriously detest treachery which completely transforms them into a horrible war-machine. Rummage the history to find how Alexander the Great got a free way and why Islam outside Arabia, dawned earliest in Afghanistan while British tried to colonize Afghanistan ending up only wining respectable tombstones on their graves scattered all along the historic Khyber-pass. In more recent history, he should remember that, the US had won the Cold War against the Soviet Russia only through passionately sincere and thoroughly brave assistance of Afghan people now being given bad names by the US as their only reason to fight and exterminate them for possible good. They are a natural fear of the US gravely terrified since end of the cold-war by the unimaginable mystic powers of the simple and un-resourceful Afghans doing wonders equipped only with their power of “Faith”. Repeatedly faltering actions of the US and allies in Afghan war are indicative of the fact that, they are desperately struggling to tackle the Afghan fighters in time before they get ideas about being invincible and turn around to really start a holly war against them as well, on the same basis, as they fought and vanquished Soviet Russian might. This actually is the real terror. But of course, with the US being world's biggest hypocrite, will continue to falter in fear blinded by its ruthless power which has so far only defeated its own self. It will continue to work same with the existing sense of direction and devices.

    Now, coming to the title of the discussion, it is enough to state that, Obama will be shown the Kennedy's way, if he tries any tilting tricks not in the books of his real trainers covertly planning and ruling America. His statements about Pakistan and intended plans of action about it were his vote-winning gimmicks before the election, having no real bearings about his strategy as the US President, if he succeeded. Once in Oval Office, a US President has established rules of business to follow and hardly gets his own personal whims or ways to rule. His policy is developed and processed through the mill to work accordingly and watchful watch-dogs make him do as required. Kennedy precedent is enough to scare the hell out.






    M.Saeed, Pakistan - 12 November, 2008

    Obama and Energy Security

    America would'nt be around Pakistan if it was not its geo-strategy related to the world's energy life lines near by and if Pakistan was not the prime land to build front line bases to deter the adversaries of the west.

    I have 45 years of experience as Oil Engineer and from my experience i an tell that obama knows nothing about oil. No use of expecting more from him. Everything in this world is based on Oil. Oil engineers are the best

    Anwar Mahmood,, Pakistan - 12 November, 2008

    Peace for Paks, by Paks

    This poem written by me from Canada is dedicated to those rare sweet Paks, those all sweet Paks that I have loved all my life from the very bottom of my heart.those very sweet Paks deserve peace as peace for all mankind.

    That Obama will catch Osama
    What you are talking about
    I say Osama died in Tora Bora
    Any says, he lives, O I doubt

    Obama's love is for America
    America first,it's allright
    But peace,yes,is good for all
    In peace, we all stay tall

    Peace for all is Obama's call
    In peace we live, don't fall
    Peace is thing makes us kind
    Peace yes,will save mankind

    In peace N love,we must live
    In peace thrill,we do forgive
    Peace is happiness,and is joy
    In peace,each man is baby boy

    Peace is glory, peace is fame
    Peace aint fighting nor blame
    Peace for Paks is true glory
    Peace for all is Obama story

    Paks love peace and hate war
    Peaceful Paks, how sweet are
    I love Paks for peace reason
    Paks peace is spring season

    All mankind,today yes sings
    Dear Paks fly on peace wings
    Like winter,summer, spring
    Peace by Paks is real thing

    Tell Obama, Paks are sweet
    Peace is what Paks drink,eat
    Peace for all, Obama talks
    Mankind loves peaceful Paks

    Peace, Paks don't wanna miss
    Peace to Paks is love N kiss
    Obama wont get a surprise
    Peace to Paks is paradise






    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 12 November, 2008

    Give him a chance

    Obama is still only the President Elect. In his own word he said that there can be only one President. Lets wait for him to take Office instead of speculating what he is or not going to do. We know that candidates will promise the Moon to be elected, but once their in Office they they do otherwise. Lets give him a chance as he appears to have level head on his shoulders. Lets live and learn, how much worse than Bush can he be. Pervez.

    Pervez, Pakistan - 13 November, 2008

    Understand the equation

    There is difference between rhetoric and the real work.
    After joining the office in january obama will not attack the pakistans tribal western area without the consent of pakistan prime minister. Pakistan is strategic to US for controlling taliban,iran and going to be ecomomic superpwer china and india.
    though Isamist terrorist inside pakistan is concern US but he will not catch them at a cost of cutting relationship with pakistan.

    shashikant, Hungary - 13 November, 2008

    WHAT OBAMA HAS FOR PAKISTAN : Flower or Fire

    With the transition of power in January, 2009, Barack Obama, the most popular and charismatic US president, will inherit the toughest challenges ever faced by the United States of America.

    The crises created by the wrong policies of the most unpopular and cowboy-style bang bang president, G. W. Bush, were never such grave and if not tackled sensibly, correctly and timely could prove disastrous and fatal for the United States of America, world's leading Superpower and self-proclaimed democracy champion.

    No doubt Barack Obama has proved his genius class and created history and the credit goes to the people. However, three important factors show the importance of his being elected as the president at this time for the US.

    Firstly, China is taking deep interest in the Africa region and investing billions of dollars there. It is taking lead over the US and West in dominating and controlling the region. Obama is African American and has already succeeded in gaining sympathy of the people of the region. This was proved by the celebrations there.

    Secondly, due to the wrong US policies---U-Turn and Use & Abuse---America has lost trust, confidence and support of the Muslim Bloc, which was effectively and successfully used to defeat the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and breakup of the Superpower.

    Bush added fuel to the fire and put the last nail in the coffin by invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and massive destruction caused in the process. After defeating and removing Soviet Union from the way, the Bush ambition to control, dominate and crush the Muslim World and capture the Routes & Resources vital to US vested interests in order to maintain Global Supremacy proved very costly for America.

    Now the US along with Allies is badly stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan. This way America hurt and harmed Muslims, the once trusted allies, lost respect in the Muslim World and instead made them enemies.

    With the Muslim World distancing from the US, now China is taking full advantage and attracting the Muslim Bloc. This way a new bloc is shaping up and putting the United States in the crucial and isolated position the Soviet Union was in. Russia is also backing the new bloc. The global changes taking place as a result of wrong policies of Bush are posing serious dangers to America.

    Here again Obama is acting as a Protective Shield. The middle name Hussain of Obama has been welcomed in the Muslim World and is attracting Muslims. They are hopeful that Obama will replace the negative and destructive wrong Bush policies with positive and friendly ones. So this is a good sign and development for America.

    Thirdly, as a result of the wrong bang bang Bush policies, the US image has been badly tarnished and reputation harmed. Now, with the election of Barack Obama as the first Black US President, the image will improve. So Barack Obama is a blessing in disguise for the Americans and the world, provided he, unlike Bush, remains positive, constructive and friendly.

    The most worried at the present times are Pakistanis. They are fed up of the corrupt leaders, who are actively involved in the international conspiracy to harm Pakistan. They fear breakup of the country. Signs are already becoming visible with big hoardings of `Greater Pakhtunistan' and the reserves vanishing fast.

    In a country where affordability and availability are becoming very important issues with money, food and other basic necessities becoming beyond the reach of most of the people, resulting in starvation and deaths and rapidly increasing poverty and crimes, the large number of ministers and advisers is assuming the shape of an army with great burden on the economy. Everybody wants a position and to be pleased, whether he qualifies or not. They are least concerned with where the country is heading.

    Let's see what Barack Obama has for Pakistan---Flower or Fire.

    JAVED ZAHEER, Canada - 13 November, 2008

    Talking to people

    Looks like Mr Obasma is more sincere to Pakistan as he has indicated to talk to Pak people. And the current leaders have some untrustworthy elements. So Pak people are preferred as the ones to talk.

    I am quoting a famous American song titled,"PEOPLE" which was first sung by America's all time best voice of Nat King Cole in the early 1950's.The song was sung again with word by word repeat of the original by America's grandest actree songstress Barbara Streissand around 1978.The song goes as such:

    People
    People who need people,
    Are the luckiest people in the world
    We're children, needing other children
    And yet letting a grown-up pride
    Hide all the need inside
    Acting more like children than children
    Lovers are very special people
    They're the luckiest people in the world
    With one person one very special person
    A feeling deep in your soul
    Says you were half now you're whole
    No more hunger and thirst
    But first be a person who needs people
    People who need people
    Are the luckiest people in the world
    With one person one very special person
    No more hunger and thirst
    But first be a person who needs people
    People who need people
    Are the luckiest people in the world...

    AND MR OBAMA MUST BE THINKING OF THIS VERY POPULAR AND GREAT SONG SUNG BY TWO VERY GRAND SINGING ARTISTS OF ALL TIME OF AMERICA--NAT KING COLE AND BARBARA STREISSAND.

    YES PAK PEOPLE ARE THE ONES TO TALK TO AS THEY ARE GREAT PEACE LOVERS.

    I repeat again my poem about peace loving nature of Pak people as noted by US president elect Mr Obama and the whole world as such:

    Pak people are ones to speak
    With a pat on their cheek
    Paks love peace like a dove
    Peaceful Paks deserve love

    Obama's love is for America
    America first,it's allright
    But peace,yes,is good for all
    In peace, we all stay tall

    Peace for all is Obama's call
    In peace we live, don't fall
    Peace is thing makes us kind
    Peace yes,will save mankind

    In peace N love,we must live
    In peace thrill,we do forgive
    Peace is happiness,and is joy
    In peace,each man is baby boy

    Peace is glory, peace is fame
    Peace aint fighting nor blame
    Peace for Paks is true glory
    Peace for all is Obama story

    Paks love peace and hate war
    Peaceful Paks, how sweet are
    I love Paks for peace reason
    Paks peace is spring season

    All mankind,today yes sings
    Dear Paks fly on peace wings
    Like winter,summer, spring
    Peace by Paks is real thing

    Tell Obama, Paks are sweet
    Peace is what Paks drink,eat
    Peace for all, Obama talks
    Mankind loves peaceful Paks

    Peace, Paks don't wanna miss
    Peace to Paks is love N kiss
    Obama wont get a surprise
    Peace to Paks is paradise




    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 13 November, 2008

    BUT, MOST IMPORTANT, PAKS HAVE GREAT HOPES IN GLOBAL PEACE FROM THE WORDS ON OBAMA'S BECOMING PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE RICHIEST, MIGHTIEST AND MOST ADVANCED NATION IN HISTORY.AND OBAMA'S FAMOUS WORDS ARE:

    "WE WANT PEACE FOR ALL"


    Anwar Mahmood, Canada



    nice joke


    nic, Pakistan - 14 November, 2008

    Can Obama be our friend, not master?

    It is highly deplorable that we refuse to study history to know our faults and correct our path from where we go astray. Repeating historic mistakes is our way of life in every sphere.

    Can Obama be a god change for Pakistan? For answering this question, I am instantly reminded of the Ayub era when Kennedy was his best friend and took personal interest in solving persistent problems of Pakistan. Ayub's Green Revolution as well as fight against twin menace of water logging and salinity had received active support from the Kennedy administration. Even PL 480 and Colorado State University's direct educational technical assistance to the Peshawar University in 1961 for establishing Agricultural Engineering Department in the then Engineering Collage of the University, (now NWFP University of Engineering and Technology)as an essential prerequisite for the success of Green Revolution, are the sterling examples. To top it all, Kennedy's pressurizing Nehru to come to terms with Ayub towards solving Kashmir crisis is something we should not forget. Unfortunately, Kennedy's assassination in 1963 and Nehru's death a few months later not only stopped but reversed the real progress towards solving Kashmir crisis. Perhaps, it was one of the reasons which prompted the covert hands holding the reins of real American governance in removing resiliently human Kennedy from the scene for not pulling the given lines. Conspiracy Theories on Kennedy's Assassination, specially about the "fourth Shot" dilemma need to be re-visited to understand the truth about myths surrounding the real integrated circuits powering the intricate Presidential rules of business. While American history has its lessons which its presidents can not easily unlearn, we do not even learn from what Ayub had to say in his bitter experience he recorded and presented us rightly titled,” Friends, not Masters."



    Obama is no body's fool and knows well that, he shall have to save himself from blunders like repeating lethal errors of Kennedy and has to resist for his survival from all temptations of trying any tilting manners not in the books prescribed by his real trainers covertly planning and ruling America. His statements about Pakistan and intended plans of action about it were nothing more than his vote-winning gimmicks before the election, having no real bearings about his strategy as the US President, when he succeeded. Once in Oval Office, a US President has established rules of business to follow and hardly gets his own personal whims or ways to work. His policy is designed, formulated, developed and processed through the rigorous mill, to work accordingly and always vigilant watchful watch-dogs make him do as required. Kennedy precedent is enough to scare the hell out of any president contemplating to deviate.



    According to some high profile American media reports, threats against Obama have already started appearing immediately after his success in elections and law enforcement officials are expecting their escalation to much more serious limits than ever before. The agencies are tight-lipped, refusing to comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating.

    But, since the November elections, law enforcement agencies have seen many threatening writings, internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect. Recently, the Secret Service undertook investigation of a case of threat posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a “free public hanging”. Then, they have a case in North Carolina of racist graffiti targeting Obama. And in a Maine convenience store, a worker observed and reported a notice inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin.



    Returning to our own fiasco, it should suffice to say that, we should not expect others to come and wash our dirty linen for us. We shall have to rely upon our own ways, means and devices.

    M.Saeed, Pakistan - 16 November, 2008

    Not much of an effect

    Obama's election is nothing for Pakistan and all Pakistanis should stop acting like it's going to make any difference. The USA is our enemy and no matter what president comes in, black or white, democrat or republican, they want what's in their interest which collide with us.
    Our leaders should alter OUR foreign policy regarding the US by creating distance between us and them as this, and only this, will help our country be stable, internally.
    Obama or McCain? What's the difference? One will bomb us substantially less than the other.

    Imaan Hazir, Pakistan - 16 November, 2008

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