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North Waziristan Opration

10 October, 2007

People have started shifting to safer places from troubled area of North Waziristan following deadly fighting between security forces, and local Taliban during last five days.

Clashes in different parts of North Waziristan have so fare claimed 250 lives, including 75 soldiers, and 65 civilians. According to Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR), some 110 militants have been killed as the air force jets bombed their suspected hideouts.

US State Department on Tuesday said that Al Qaeda is using once again Pakistan’s tribal belt as a safe haven.

The fresh fighting broke out on Saturday, October 6, the day the country’s military ruler General Pervez Musharraf got re-elected in a controversial presidential election.

Area people allege that security forces are “oppressing” the tribesmen.

Journalists should visit the area so they can see the miscreants targeted by security forces were in fact women and children”, they charged.

Army spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad expresses ignorance about the civilian deaths.

“ I have no report about civilian deaths. Our operation is very well-targeted. Forces are targeting militant hideouts only”, he said.

He, however, admitted, that some houses, being used for attacks on security forces were targeted and some locals may have died.

Here are some questions
1)Where will this civil war leave us?
2)What are the main reasons of this incessant trouble in tribal areas and what steps should be taken to resove this mess?
3) Can Benazir’s return resolve this lingering crisis?

Reader Comments:

Toughest nut to crack.

THIS IS THE MOST TOUICHY ISSUE IF NOT THE ONLY TOUCHY ISSUE FACING THE NATION SINCE 9/11.
WHILE THE POLITICAL ACTORS LIKE BB HAVE OPENLY ADVOCATED HER POLICY(IF SHE COMES INTO POWER)TO LET AMERICAN AND NATO TROOPS ENTER PAKISTAN AND MOP UP THE TRIBAL AREAS,AND THIS DANGEROUS SCENARIOO WOULD TURN PAKISTAN INTO IRAQ TYPE SITUATION WITH ALL OF PAKISTAN BLEEDING AND IN REAL CIVIL WAR WITH SURE RECIPE OF THE COUNTRY'S BREAK UP.HER CRAZY PLANS ARE MUCH RADICALIZED TO TAKE THE COUNTRY TO MAXED EXTREMES TO THE EXTENT OF BREAKING UP THE COUNTRY.

PAK MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF ON THE OTHER HAND ARE TRYING CARROT AND STICK POLICY TO CONTAIN THE TOUGHEST AND MOST STRESSED PROBLEM IN THE WHOLE WORLD.WHILE MORE THAN 98 PERCENT OF PAK POPULATION IS TAMED AND HAS WISELY RESTRAINED FROM THE FOLLY OF TAKING UP ARMS AGAINST THE NATION'S LIFE LINE,WHICH ARE THE ARMED FORCES.

IN ALL MILITANCIES RECORDED IN THE WORLD'S PAST,THE SURGE TIME IS SELECTED TO COINCIDE WITH CERTAIN OCCASION.PAK MILITARY HAD SEEN DOZENS OF ITS ARMED MEN KIDNAPPED BY SOME OUTLAWS TO HAPPEN ON PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND MANY OF SECURITY MEN WERE KILLED AS WELL.YOU SHOOT A MILITARY OR POLICE MAN IN AMERICA OR CANADA AND YOU ARE DEAD FOR SURE.

THE MILITANCY IN TRIBAL AREAS IS MADE TO LOOK MILITANCY BY INFILTRATED PEOPLE,WHOSE ROLE HAD EXPIRED OR TERMINATED AFTER THE FALL OF SOVIET UNION AND DEFINITELY AFTER 9/11.

PAKISTAN WAS GIVEN A CLEAR CHOICE TO SIDE WITH ONE SIDE AND LOOSE THE WHOLE NATION THROUGH UNITED MILITARY ACTION OF THE WEST PLUS TOTALLY AGREED INDIA,OR TO KEEP THE COUNTRY FREE OF THE INFILTRATION AND CONSEQUENT INDUCTION OF SOME OF THE VERY SMALL POCKETS OF THE NATION BY THESE EXPIRED IN THEIR ROLE TALIBAN OR AL QAEDA.IT WAS LIKE LOOSING THE WHOLE LIFE BODY, AND IF NOT,ACCEPT SELECTIVE AND ON OFF SURGERY OF THE RESISTING 1 OR 2 PERCENT PART OF THE BODY.

DUE TO VERY TOUGH LUCK,MOST DIFFICULT GEO-STRATEGY AND IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPREHEND THE DEADLY SITUATION ENSUING AFTER 9/11,PAK GOVERNANCE OPTED FOR THE CHOICE THAT COULD SAVE THE WHOLE LIFE WITH SOME BLEEDING OF 1-2 PERCENT.IT COULD HAVE BEEN NO BLEEDING IF THE RUNAWAYS FROM US DAIZY CUTTER BOMBINGS IN AFGHANISTAN HAD NOT FOUND THEIR WAYS INTO TRIBAL AREAS AND IF AMERICA AND THE WEST HAD REHABILITATED ALL LEFT OVER JIHADIS FROM THE AFGHAN-RUSSIA WAR.REHABILITATION AND TAKING THE GUN AWAY IS MUST AFTER A BIG WAR AND REHABILITATION OF THE VICTOTR SOLDIERS WAS DONE AFTER WW1,WW2 AND ALL MAJOR WARS OF THE PAST.

PAK PROBLEM WAS COMPOUNDED EVEN WORSE AS THE LEFT OVER FROM RUSS-AFGHAN WARS GOT THEMSELVES ADMIXED IN AN AREA, WHICH WERE DECLARED TOUGEST NUTS TO CRACK EVEN BY ALEXANDER THE GREAT, CHENGEZ KHAN,THE MUGHALS,THE TURKS, THE BRITS,THE RUSSIANS AND BY ALL.PAK MILITARY GOT INTO SITUATION TO GRAPPLE THE TOUGHEST PROBLEM THAT ANY MIGHTY ONES EVEN EVER FACED.I LOVE THE TRIBALS AND I EVEN LOVE MY COUNTRY'S LIFE LINE, WHICH IS THE ARMED FORCES.ANY PATRIOT WILL CRY OVER BLEEDING OF BOTH.YOU HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN LOOSING THE NATION'S LIFE BODY OR DRESS UP THE WOUNDS OF THE SURGICALLY OPERATED 1 OR 2 PERCENT OF THE BODY.

HERE ARE MY ANSWERS TO THE THREE QUESTIONS AS SUCH:

1)Where will this civil war leave us?

THIS IS REALLY NOT A CIVIL WAR WHEN NWFP AND PUNJAB ARE TAMED AND SHARING GOVERNANCE AND MILITARY PARTNERSHIP IN THE NATION AT LARGE.IT IS NOT A CIVIL WAR WHEN MUSHARAF AND PAK MILITARY ARE DONG IT ON/OFF AND RESPONDING TO ONLY SURGES ON ONCE IN BLUE MOON TYPE RECIPROCATING OPERATIONS. BB'S PLANS TO INVITE NATO INTO TRIBAL AREAS AND LET FREE HAND WITH CONTINUOUS AND UN-RESTRICTED OPERATIONS WILL CREATE REAL CIVIL WAR DUE TO BB'S PLANNED FOLLY.I BET ANY THING THAT SHE WILL CHANGE.

PAK MILTARY IS TAKING BIG LOSS BY TAMED OPERATIONS AND RESORTING TO AERIAL BOMBINGS ONLY WHEN BIG NUMBERS OF SECURITY MEN ARE LOST DUE TO TAMED AND LIGHT HANDED OPERATIONS IN THAT AREA,WHICH IS INDUCED,INFILTRATED AND COMPLICATED BY OUTSIDERS SPOIL.

PAK MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF WILL KEEP IT TAMED AND OVER REACT ON ONCE IN BLUE MOON ODD TIMES WHEN MANY MILITARY MEN ARE LOST DUE TO OUSIDE INDUCED SURGES IN TRIBAL AREAS.THEY PICKS CIVILIAN AREAS TO CAUSE SOME CIVILIAN DEATHS.PAK MILITARY IS SENSIBLE ENOUGH AND ACTS WITH RECIPROCATIVITY ONLY ON SURGES THAT HAPPEN ONLY ON POLITICAL OR ODD OCCASIONS LIKE ELECTIONS.

2)What are the main reasons of this incessant trouble in tribal areas and what steps should be taken to resove this mess?

THE REASONS HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED ALREADY.YOU HAVE THE REMAINS OF RUSSO-AFGHAN WAR STILL LINGERING IN 1-2 PERCENT OF PAKISTAN AFTER 9/11 IN TRIBAL POCKETS.THE MILITANCY TIME EXPIRED IN MOST OF PAKISTAN AFTER THE FALL OF SOVIETS AND DEFINITELY AFTER 9/11 EXCEPT IN POCKETS OF FOREIGN INDUCED YET FIERCELY INDEPENDENT TRIBALS.

3) Can Benazir’s return resolve this lingering crisis?

SHE IS A BEAUTIFUL ACTOR WHO CAN CHANGE AND DENY WHENEVER IT SUITS HER.I AM SURE THAT SHE WILL NOT TURN PAK INTO AN OTHER IRAQ.SHE KNOWS WHEN AND HOW TO CHANGE.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 10 October, 2007

Corrupt Vigilante Part-1

Political Terrorism” against a nation

Regarding genocide of Pushtoons, secterian and ethnic war against own citizens, my comments may plese be seen at following link of Pak Tribune.
http://www.paktribune.com/speakout/comments.php?id=191016&t=1&a=t

Recent decision to implement NRO ( National Reconciliation Ordnance) has given birth to “Political terrorism” and future “Corrupt political vigilante” in Pakistan, a new form of “extremism”, it has politically murdered the basic democracratic requirements to establish a civilised society on solid footings with high morale values. No harm if those are called ‘Legitimate Terrorists’.
Political terrorism is equally harmful as word terrorism is used in general concept.
Terrorism in the modern sense is violence or other harmful acts committed or threatened against civilians for political or other ideological goals. As such political terrorism is a violant criminal behavior designed primarily to generate fear in the community, or substantial segment of it, for political purposes. Terrorism is a political tactic, not unlike letter writing or protesting, that is used by activists when they believe no other means will effect the kind of change they desire. State terrorism is another form of violance committed to achieve desired political gains

Exporters of political terrorism:
Yesterday Prime Minister Gordon Brown confirmed that British and US governments have played main role in success of a deal between Mush-Benazir. It is not a matter of surprise but confirmation to their efforts have shut mouth of so called revolutionaries or claiming to be Nelson Mandela. It is hoped that neither British nor US governments have a chance to think that their action has produced “ Corrupt political vigilante” in Pakistan, more dangerious then terrorists.
Same action has been opted by King of Saudi by abducting Mian Nawaz Shariff, there is no complaint against Saudi King, because neither those are flag bearer of democracy nor they want to introduce such practice. However as a Chairman of Authoritarian Muslim Governments it was their pleasure to help a dictator innocently without caring consequences of such actions on citizens of Pakistan.
It is clearly political terrorism against Pakistan, particularly by UK and US who are so called champions of democarcy. It is historical fact that both are involved in supporting authoritarian governments through out world, presence of their armies on the land controlled by dictators, Kings, and Sheikhs is a slap on the face of democracy.
Establishment of democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan is also a joke, secterian gangs, war lords and drug mafia is as powerful as before establishment of so called democracy. Safety of their rulers is in the hands of private army contractors, same type of safety is Benazir asking for.
Birth of “Corrupt political vigilante”:
Deal between Mush-Benazir mean amnesty to corrupt politicial leaders, terrorists, swindlers, thugs and mafia. It is also designed to legitimize looted money and later kept in pocket as political bribe. This all practice is viewed as to impose another sycophany ruler like Hosni Mubarik, Suharto or Pinochet for vested interests of both western powers. It is believed that Saudi Arabia is forced to abduct Nawaz Shariff for the same purpose.
Mush imposed himself on Pakistan at gun point, peoples of Pakistan have been waiting patiently to get rid of him and tenure of his self created parliament through fraud elections and referendum was going to be over. Western countries, common wealth and other democracies continously assured establishment of true democracy with fair elections in Pakistan. It encouraged peoples and their faith on establishment of democracy.
Unfortunately it wondered every civilised person that US and UK had a plan B to impose Mush via back door. It is clearly an act of hypocracy and fraud with a nation which is under brutalities of Army rule. Peoples were forced to shut election campaign with use of extra ordinary force in presidential election, and general election have been highjacked by US and UK by imposing their sycophants, election campaign has been murdered brfore it could have taken place. Peoples are hopeless by mockery of west.
It is also surprising that all respectable western intellectuals and scholars are mum, media is supporting a fascist dictator. Legitimising a fascist dictator in 21st century is a revolution, providing support to same person with renowned thugs, corrupt mafia and terrorists looks funny and against basic principals of democracy.


international professor, Pakistan - 11 October, 2007

Corrupt Vigilante Part-2

Future consequences on global scene:
Corrupt political vigilante will have same effect on global level as Afghan War Lords, Iraqi secterian Ayotullahs, cocaine and drug mafia, and other terrorists group have contiminated environment of peaceful world. Think patiently when more then 25000 terrorists, thughs, murderers and mafia of MQM will receive clean slip from courts withour any accoutability, same as Benazir-Zardari have looted $ 1.5 billion, cases against them will be dropped from accountability courts, their frozen accouts woth millions will be cleared, what any body can expect from those criminals, will those not use old methods and experience? There are corrupt bureaucrates, PPP other leaders, many in present government which are not only corrupt but criminals. All such mafia is in fold of Mush and army protection, now by matching leftover criminals by UK and US governments to support a fascist dictator what good any body can expect.
Musharraf to honour ‘deal’ even without NRO
October 10, 2007
Sources claimed that the two sides have already discussed the possibility of the court striking down the ordinance and have evolved a mechanism to deal with the situation accordingly. Musharraf has given the firm assurance to the US and Britain, the two guarantors of the secret understanding reached between him and Benazir, that he will not only facilitate her safe return to Pakistan but also look after her interests within and outside Pakistan, the sources revealed.
The Benazir-Musharraf deal is an international agreement and not just an adjustment between the two parties. The chances of the apex court striking down the NRO have already been discussed by the two sides and this aspect has been taken care of, sources in the PPP told The News.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=10574


This letter is being sent to all politicians, law makers, intellectuals and scholars of United states of America and United Kingdim with the invitation to think whether their governments are involved in revival of colonial era or want to re-establish Nineteenth and twentyth century imperialism. More over being a democratic countries, did peoples have given mandate to its leaders to restructure deals and involve in pardon of corruption, terrorism and murder cases of other countries? Neither it is morally right nor it is believed that would be part of their mandate.

Whether you think that your governments are accountable for such practices. If yes please ask for answer. All international human rights organizations are invited to think what factors have kept them mum on brutalities committed by fascist dictators, now air force jets, gunship heilycopters and sophisticated weapons are being used on civilians including women and children. It is genocide, mass murder and worst crime against humanity ever committed by any fascist under satellite networks.
Benazir and Mush both have been imposed on citizens of Pakistan, family history of Benazir is an open secret for services of imperialism and greediness of wealth, from grand grand father to date please study their records, on other hand Mush has appointed 6-10 pawns in Pak Army to protect his skin because he has no feudal background and he has fear that circumstances may not made him Zia. Otherwise he has no ideology or any development plan for Pakistan. Jamia Hafsa, FATA and Baluchistan is a secterian and ethnic war against particular groups, same Taliban when joined Karazai government those are declared democrates, Afghans against foreign intervention are Taliban, same peoples which are against presence of foreign forces in Saudi Arabia are terrorists, it is mockery that Pakistani Wahabi, Salfi, Deobandi are Taliban but peoples in favor of foreign troops in Saudi Arabia are respectable Salfi, Wahabi’s. Shia’s of Iran are terrorists but Ayotullahs of Iraq are democrates. Induction of Benazir has many meanings, top is her faith to be die heart Shia, to divide nation on secterian lines like Iraq. There are many other factors next time.

Earthman
International Professor
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1814&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0



international professor, Pakistan - 11 October, 2007

If you can't speak well, don't talk

Anwar Mahmood is a fascist mentality person, probably MQM stalwart , his thoughts are dangerious for civilised world, he is successfully saving his overseas vested intersts, usually reflects in his letters, colud be guided from GHQ or 90.
US did not cut with daisy cutters to Iran, North Korea or many other states. It depends upon courage of leaders not beggers who lay down their arms for the sake of few dollars. There is no sense to eliminate 2% or 3% popoulation which according to constitution have equal rights and require to be dealt with law of the land not for happiness of any foreign state. If FATA and Baluchistan area peoples are doing unlawful activities, thousand did not agree with that. Mush and generals have no footings, they are coward in nature and their illigitimate occupation of power made them begging for their political legitimacy from west. Pakistan is not Afghanistan that any body will easily made Torabora. We have 3 million army,para military and other elite equipped with sophisticated weapon, more over millions of retired Military, on one call Pakistan can recruit million peoples for the defence of country. We don't have any general who may have courage to talk like general. If general will talk like Benazir or sh; Rashid style then what is the need to keep such a huge army, 150 generals.
Benazir is foreign agent only due to this reason Army did not allow her to enter any defense facility. Mush is the enemy of Pakistan, who on one phone call issued NRO, shame on such generals. MQM mentality general, indian agents, against sovernity of Pakistan escorted by corrupt politicians. What character did gujrati mafia, sherpao group or PPP has, all thugs, thieves and looters.
Pushtoon and Baloch are patriotic Pakistani and good muslims, poor and devoted.
I ask anwar Mahmood if Mush, Benazir both are so good and terrorists of MQM are true Pakistanis then why he is driving cabs at Canada, why not come back and fight against Pushtoons and Balouchs. He is fascist by nature who support fascist generals and pleading those powers who want to run from battle field.
Such peoples who are flaring situation for a few dollars living abroad have no right to issue decree of murder of 2 or 3% population. We hate blood shed, if army is killed it is mistake of generals and haughtiness of power. How brutally 300 women and children have killed by Mirzayee Air Chief and Mirzayee General. It is secterian war. Generals want to make Pakistan, Algire, Iraq or Afghanistan.
It is so shameful that one phone call make so called generals crazy and they forget wisdom, human values. Using fighter jets, gunship choppers is a tradition of Israel.

Ghulam Rasool Chauhdry, Pakistan - 11 October, 2007

Saladin vs Crusaders Army in Islamic territory & Waziristan

By any standard this is Operation by the crusaders against Pakistan regime. Crusaders orchestrating in all Muslim Countries of the region. Where is Gazi Saladin fighting
Crusaders.Tens of Thousands of Crusaders armies are operating under Bush Blair Brown Sarcozy Harper now with Japanese Samurais Chinese and RSS of India .Saladin is buried in Damascus? Crusaders are following Quran Hadith (as Christianity) amid science technology while Muslims think by raising hand for doa (prayer) they are fighting crusaders as Saladin ‘s Army. This leaves UMMA going down the drain like in Iraq.Umma is losing even remaining 10% Palestine like in Afghanistan like in Darfur Somalia and French states in Africa and like in Wazirstan J&K (Kashmir).Soon there will be no resistence.PKK killed dozens of soldiers and civilian in Turkey every week .Millions of Iraqis are missing and thousands are dying every week.European Court of above crusaders issued fatwa that Islam in Turkey violating Crusaders right.Sarcozy and EU issued fatwa that Hijab in EU is unacceptable. Muslim leaders promotes Bikini and modelling And Hoare business.Sarkozy of French states attacking Turkey saying Muslim European belongs to Islam. And Christianity crusaders army operating within Islamic territories is a success. They raise their finance selling OIL Gas station Banking Cellophone Hirise and road coal tar construction business .Just get rid of Crusaders Israelis and conglomerates of above and conglomerates of their advancing companies operating in Muslim throwing daily bombs passing legislation against Pakistan legislation against Iran legislation against Turkey i.e. CENTO .These legislation says that because Turkey killed Armenian these crusaders have right to wipe out hundreds of millions of Turks Iranians and Pakistanis Syrians Iraqis constituting CENTO. Fight Back.This is not civil War.This is divide and Rule.


Benjuman Zakaria, United Arab Emirates - 11 October, 2007

My clarificaion for ghulam Rasool Chaudhry

I DID'NT MEAN ANY THING MORE THAN NATIONAL RECONCILLIATION THAT COULD PUT STOP TO FIGHTING IN NWFP.
ALL I MEANT AND WISHED WAS IF THEE WAS A WAYS THAT ONE SIDE COULD ACCOMODATE THE OTHER AS CIVIL MILITARY DIVIDE HAS ALWAYS PROVED FATAL FOR ANY COUNTRY.AND I, LIKE ALL PAKISTANIS LOVE AND RESPECT TRIBALS AND WOULD NEVER WISH THEIR EXTINCTION UNDER ANY WILD THOUGHTS. ALL I STATED WAS THAT THERE WAS REAL TROUBLE AND ARMED CONFLICT IN ONLY 1-2 PERCENT OF PAK AREAS HAD NO MENTION IN MY LETTER ABOUT EXTINCTION OF ANY PEOPLE.THERE WAS GUARDED MENTION IN MY LETER OF SOMEWHAT MITIGATED OPERATIONS THAT, THANKS ALLAH, HAVE NOT MADE TRIBAL AREAS AN OTHER IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN.

I AM A GAS ENGINEER AND CAN ERR IN POLITICAL THINKING. BUT MY WORRIES AND CONCERNS ARE TO SEE TRIBAL AREAS AS MUCH SAFE, PEACEFUL AND QUIET AS LAHORE OR PESHAWAR.I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO MQM, NOR MILITARY, NOR ANY DEDICATION TO THE WESTERN WORLD.AS A MATTER OF FACT,I HAD SEEN MY WORK CUT VERY MUCH IN CANADA AFTER MY PUBLICATIONS ABOUT GAS ENGINEERING APEARED WITH VERY MUSLIM NAME IN 2004 ANNUAL CONFERENCES OF ALL LEADING PLACES OF GAS ENGINEERING KNOWLEDGE IN AMERICA.I HAVE PICKED UP CONTRACT NOW IN OTHER AREAS WHERE I WORKED 12 YEARS AGO IN CANADA.AND I HAVE TO SAY WITH PLEASURE THAT I HAVE PICKED UP WORLD CLASS WORK IN IRAN IN THE FIELD OF GAS ENGINEERING AND MY TRIP THERE WAS WONDERFULLY HAPPY AND SUCCESSFUL ONLY THREE WEEKS AGO.

AS OBSERVED IN MY LETTER,I HAVE ONLY EXPRESSED DESIRE FOR PEACE AND SENSE OF RELIEF THAT ONLY 1-2 PERCENT AREAS OF PAKISTAN ARE SEEING VERY VOILENT FIGHTS AND THAT TOO IS MUCH MITIGATED BY IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN STANDARD.

I DO RESPECT MR CHAUDHARY'S EMOTIONS DEEP INSIDE MY HEART AND I SHARE MANY OF THESE CONCERNS WITH HIM.BUT, WE ARE ON THE RADAR SCREEN AND THINGS ARE NOT EASY OUT THERE.I HAVE ALWAYS ADMIRED IRANIANS IN ALL MY LETTERS, BUT I HAVE HAD FEARS OF NOOKS AROUND IRAN AFTER I WENT IN DETAILS OF THE OBSTRUCTIONS THAT BOLD COUNTRY WAS FACING IN EFFORTS TO BE INDEPENDENT. I AM NOT A POLITICAL MINDED MAN,BUT MY RESERVATIONS ABOUT HOW TO BREAK OR EVEN DODGE THE UNREAL AND UNJUST SANCTIONS EVEN ON VERY PEACEFUL USE OF GAS TO PRODUCE FERTILLIZERS LIKE ITEMS HAD BEEN SHUT OFF ON MY DEAR IRAN.IRAN HAS MORE COMBINED GAS AND OIL HYDROCARBONS ENERGY THAN EVEN SAUDI ARABIA,BUT THE SANCTIONS ON TECHNOLOGY AND EVEN BANKING ARE VERY UNJUST.AND SADLY ENOUGH, EVEN CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE COMPLYING TO AMERICA'S ORDERS TO LIMIT HELP TO IRAN EVEN IN PEACEFUL AREAS.

PAKISTAN HAS NO ENERGY RESOURCES AND AT TIMES I THINK THAT MUSHARRAF IS PLAYING GUARDED GAME.MY ONLY SYMPATHY WITH MUSHARRAF AND MILITARY STANDS ON THEIR ROLE OF PLAYING SOME WHAT GUARDED GAMES.THE NEWS OF TRIBALS BEING KILLED IS SAD WITH ONLY RELIEF THAT THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD AS IN IRAQ. I PRAY THAT EVEN THE CURRENT CASUALTY RATES DROPS TO ZERO AS MR CHAUDHRY WILL READ IN MY LETTER ON MR SHERPAO'S GOOD PROMISES.

MY WRITING ON POLITICAL MATTERS IS GOING TO DIS-APPEAR AS I HAVE PICKED UP GAS ENGINEERING WORK IN IRAN AND SOME ENGINEERING PROJECT IN CANADA.SO,I WILL HAVE NO TIME TO KILL TIME ON POLITICAL WRITING.

LET US PRAY TO ALLAH THAT ALL MY COUNTRY STAYS SAFE AND SECURE.I ONLY EXPRESSED THE VIEWS OUT OF MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW BAD PAK CIVILIAN-MILITARY DIVIDE HURTS US ALL.IF ONE SIDE DOES'NT BUDGE AN INCH,THE OTHER SIDE COULD PACIFY FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE.

IT IS NOT ONLY CIVILIAN MILITARY DIVIDE,THERE IS A TERRIBLE CIVILIAN-CIVILIAN DIVIDE AMONGST MY PEOPLE EVERY WHERE.OUR PEOPLE CAN DEVELOPE CUT THROAT ANIMOSITY AMONGST SELF ON SIMPLE DEBATES LIKE WHO SINGS BETTER-LATA OR NOOR JEHAN.

BUT, I DO HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT ONE SIDE OR BOTH HAVE TO PACIFY. AT LEAST ONE SIDE MUST FOR THE SAKE OF INTERNAL PEACE IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS VERY SCARY EVEN TO TALK OF SAD THINGS ABOUT OUR OWN COUNTRY MEN TAKING UP ARMES AGAINST EACH OTHER.

EVEN WHEN I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPECIAL LOVE FOR THE WEST, I THINK WE NEED GUARDED AND PACIFIED SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS. NO ONE CAME TO SADDAM'S HELP. SANCTIONS ON IRAN ARE DEVASTATING DESPITE THEIR POSSESSION OF THE WORLD'S GRANDEST ENERGY RESERVES.IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE WHAT THEY WILL BE LIKE IN CASE OF PAKISTAN.IT IS GOOD TO BE BOLD, BUT ONE MUST ALWAYS ESTIMATE HIS, HER LIMITATIONS.IRAN CAN MAKE OVER 100 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM SALES OF OIL AND GAS AND THINGS ARE STILL TOUGH.IF WE BECOME REVOLTING, NO MATTER HOW JUST OR TRUE WE ARE, AND HOW EVIL THE OTHER SIDE IS,THE SHUT OFF OF WORLD BANKING LIKE IT IS DONE TO IRAN WILL DEVASTATE OUR COUNTRY.

MUSHARRAF MAY HAVE CHICKENED OUT ON 9/11 FOR SAME REASONS. HE IS NOT ALLOWING ANY FOREIGN TROOPS INTO PAKISTAN TO MAKE OUR TRIBAL AREAS AN OTHER IRAQ.THE WORLD DEFINITELY HAS TO AVOID AN OTHER 9/11 AND DO IT BEST TO LET THAT NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.OUR FIFTY OR SIXTY NUKES SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS DETERRANT AGAINST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MULTI HEAD SUPER H-BOMB WEAPONS.

WE CAN CRITICIZE MUSHARRAF AND MILITARY WHERE IT IS RIGHT.BUT,WE MUST SIDE WITH HIM WHERE HE IS PLAYING SAFE.



Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 12 October, 2007

Thanks!

Thanks Anwar Mahmood for your clarification. It is my basic thought and call it fascism to eliminate any person from the scene illegally for political, ethnic or religious reasons. Your participation in discussions is always welcomed, and wish keep up as regular practice.
My concern is that after u-turn if it was for nation each and every step and statement to undermine culture and religious values is on paek. Nation is divided bitterly, those peoples are thrown to be terrorist, Taliban or extremist who have no direct link to such practice but continous propaganda from lifafa journalists and west funded columnists or vulgar minded NGO's is telling some other tale. Who says that there is no foreign intervention in Pakistan. Siachin is gone for ever, Kashmir sold, attacks in FATA area by unmanned predators, logistic facilities to kill Afghans, NRO, Deals on one single phone call, fraud presidential election, all such could be good for Bush and Man Mohan Sigh but not for Pakistan. Mush & Co and Pakistan are in two opposite directions.

Ghulam Rasool Chaudhry, Pakistan - 12 October, 2007

Man on the driver's seat matters the most.

WE ONLY SEND OPINIONS AND THE ONE ON DRIVER'S SEAT MATTERS THE MOST.THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WILL DECIDE SOON ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THINGS TO RUN FOR PAKISTAN.AND THE TRIBAL SITUATION IS APPARENTLY AFFECTING PAKISTAN AND EVEN THE WORLD EVENTS THE MOST.LET US PRAY ALLAH FOR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PEACE FOR PAKISTAN.

IT WILL ALL DEPEND ON WHO THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WILL ELECT TO BE ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT. AND YESTERDAY'S PRE-ELECTION SURVEY SURE REFLECTS A DRASTIC CHANGE IN PAK PEOPLE'S CHOICE NOW.PAK PEOPLE NOW APPEAR TO FAVOUR NAWAZ SHARIF WITH SCORES HIGHER THAN MUSHARRAF AND BB PUT TOGETHER ACCORDING TO THIS SURVEY.

YES, MAN ON THE DRIVER'S SEAT MATTERS THE MOST. I AM ONLY ONE OPINION AND THAT TOO FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY.I DO APPOLOGIZE IF I HURT ANY BODY'S FEELING AS THE TRIBAL PEOPLE AND PASHTOONS ARE VERY MUCH DEAR TO ME AS ALL OTHER PAKISTANIS.

IT DOES HURT TO KNOW ABOUT OUR OWN PEOPLE KILLING EACH OTHER.AND IT ALSO HURTS TO SEE CIVIL-MILITARY DIVIDE IN THE COUNTRY.

MAY BE NAWAZ SHARIF CAN PROVE MORE USEFUL AS THE PAK PEOPLE ARE FAVOURING HIM IN THE POLLS OPINION TAKEN JUST YESTERDAY.

MAY ALLAH GRANT THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PEACE TO OUR DEAR PAKISTAN, WHERE OUR VERY DEAR ONES LIVE. MAY ALLAH GRANT THE SERENETY AND SAFETY IN TRIBAL AREAS AND THE END TO CIVIL-MILITARY DIVIDE IN THE COUNTRY.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 13 October, 2007

The Achievements

The government machinery of Pakistan is having the full and timely benifit of such situations like that of Waziristan which is actually getting negatively results for future. The population being killed in a mass is reproducing hatred towards west especially the U.S for its support. Moreover, the organisations of the offenders are being strengthened with more experienced and devouted personnals.
The worst is that the organisation of Pak Army may get affected.

Mohammad Ilyas, Pakistan - 13 October, 2007

Pakistan's Mercenary Elites

"If Pakistanis dare to change themselves, they can choose the change they want: to make the state work for them not against them, to reclaim history, to become the historical force that produces change. However, this change demands a price, a price in will, values and sacrifice. Pakistanis must search their hearts to revive the fire they have smothered for too long: the will to struggle, to resist, to live in dignity, connected to their history, drawing on their best traditions to forge a future that they will control. If they fail now, the game is lost. It may be lost forever." In Pakistan today we encounter a paradox crying for an explanation; it is a paradox, moreover, whose exploration can bring some clarity to the predicament of the Islamicate today.

In January 2002, when President George Bush defined his near-term agenda for waging wars, he fixed his sights on Iraq, Iran and North Korea: the ‘axis of evil,’ marked for regime change. These countries were targeted – we were told – because they were developing ‘weapons of mass destruction.’ In the case of Iraq and Iran, this was only a cover. More likely, the two countries were targeted because they opposed Israeli hegemony. Perhaps, too, the US wanted their oil.Oddly, Pakistan was not targeted for regime change. Yes, Pakistan has no oil. But the US-Israel axis could find her culpable on several other counts, each quite damnable. Pakistan is the only Islamicate country to possess nuclear weapons; she was guilty of nuclear proliferation; she was the chief patron of the Taliban regime; she has been accused by India of supporting cross-border terrorism in Kashmir; and, on the first two counts, Israel could tag Pakistan as the most serious threat to her security.

Why was Pakistan not being targeted?This question has gathered even greater force over the past two years; and for two reasons. After being stalled for a while by the ferocity of the Iraqi resistance, US plans for war against Iran are once again gathering steam. In the past few weeks, Israelis, Neocons, Christian Zionists and assorted hawks have again been baying for Iranian blood. Now, the US Senate too has joined the chorus. On September 26, with an overwhelming vote, it virtually handed President Bush the license to wage war against Iran.At the same time, there is little doubt now that Pakistan is ‘hosting’ both al-Qaida and the Taliban. Now rejuvenated, both organizations are operating from ‘liberated’ territories in Pakistan’s Waziristan. More ominously, last July, Pakistani allies of the Taliban dared to challenge the authority of the state in Pakistan’s capital. And since their rout there, they have continued to mount deadly attacks on the Pakistan army. Yet, even today there is no talk of adding Pakistan to the ‘axis of evil.’ Why is there no clamor in the United States or Israel to invade Waziristan, to attack Pakistan’s nuclear facilities, to punish her for nuclear proliferation, or to launch covert operations to seize Pakistan’s nuclear assets before they fall into the hands of Pakistani nationalists, the Taliban or al-Qaida? This is the Pakistani paradox.This paradox has a simple explanation: simple but also indicative of the malaise that afflicts nearly all the Islamicate world. In Pakistan, the US effected regime change without a change of regime. There was no need for an invasion, no need to fire a shot, no need for covert operations. At the first American touch, almost overnight, a terrible beauty was born. Instantly, the US had drafted the Pakistani military, nay the Pakistani state, to wage war against Islamic ‘extremists.’ The US had gained an army: and Pakistan’s military dictators had gained longevity.The ease with which Pakistan’s sovereignty was terminated, the speed of this transaction, and no less the completeness of the foreign take-over, speaks volumes about Pakistan’s history, the nature of her ruling elites, the timbre of her ‘national’ institutions, and the alienation, degradation and dereliction of Pakistan’s middle classes. Within a few years of her birth, the state was privatized by landlords, generals and bureaucrats: three factions created, nurtured and guided into positions of leadership by the British.Instead of mobilizing the people, instead of educating them in the values of citizenship, instead of enriching Islamic traditions, instead of building a national economy, instead of developing indigenous technologies, Pakistan’s ruling elites built bridges to the United States, to the US military, to foreign corporations, and to US-dominated multilateral institutions to create a technologically weak, a debt-ridden, and financially dependent economy controlled from outside through local elites.For sixty years, Pakistan has been managed by different factions of its ruling elites – the military, bureaucracy, landlords – taking turns to plunder the people,






salahudeen rumi, Pakistan - 13 October, 2007

United we stand

MY DEAR COUNTRY PAKISTAN IS BEING SUCKED INTO WW 3 EQUATION AND ONLY TWO FIRM STEPS CAN SAVE US FROM BECOMING BLOODY BED OF THESE KILLING FIELDS.

FIRST IS THE CREATION OF A VERY NEUTRAL FOREIGN POLICY WITH NO PRO STAND VIS AVIS AMERICA-NATO OR RUSSIA-CHINA OR ANY BODY ELSE WHO WILL BE THE KEY CONSTITUENTS OF THIS WW3 EQUATION.SECOND STEP WILL BE COMPROMISES AND CONCESSIONS WITHIN MILITARY AND THE TRIBAL AREAS WHICH HAVE BECOME THE SUSPICION ON THE US-NATO RADAR SCREEN ABOUT THOSE WHO FLED FROM TORA BORA.WHETHER THE ALLEGATION IS RIGHT OR WRONG,CONSTRICTIONS AND CONSTRAINTS WILL HAVE TO BE EXERCISED BY ALL OF OUR COUNTRY PEOPLE.

FORTUNATELY,PAKISTAN HAS ESCAPED BECOMING AN OTHER IRAQ, BECAUSE PAKISTAN'S MAIN STREAM PUNJABIS, PASHTOONS, SINDHIS AND BALUCHI'S ON MAJORITY BASIS DO NOT HAVE INNER HATE LIKE THE SHIAS, KURDISH AND THE SADDAM'S SUNNI FOLLOWERS HAVE HAD TO EXPLODE THE COUNTRY EVEN AFTER SADDAM IS GONE.

THE TRIBALS AND OUR MILITARY CAN BOTH ENGAGE INTO COMPROMISE AND CONCESSIONS DEALS. UNFORTUNATELY,THERE ARE PEOPLE IN BOTH SIDES, WHO CAN DEVIATE FROM THE PRINCIPLES OF TOTAL NEUTRALITY.

PAKISTAN SHOULD HAVE NO REASONS TO GO HEAD ON COLLISION WITH AMERICA-NATO SITTING NEXT DOOR, NOR LETTING ANY BODY FROM INSIDE OUR TERRITORY JOIN THE FIGHTING NEXT DOOR. NOR SHOULD WE CARRY ON US-NATO-SAUDI AGENDAS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE AGAIN SUCKERS INTO WW3 EQUATION.

MY FIRST LETTER ON THIS SUBJECT MAY HAVE BEEN WRONGLY MISUNDERSTOOD.HAVING TROUBLE IN 2 PERCENT OF MY COUNTRY RATHER THAN HAVING TROUBLE IN ALL OF COUNTRY LIKE IRAQ WAYS DOES'NT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH ACCEPTING 2 PERCENT AS TROUBLED PART. THERE ARE WAYS TO MITIGATE AND THERE IS NO BETTER WAY THAN DEALING IT ON THE PRINCIPLES OF NEUTRALITY,COMPROMISE AND CONCESSIONS WITHIN OUR COUNTRY AND WITH OUTSIDERS WHO WILL BE THE KEY WARRIORS IN THE WW3 EQUATION.

I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ON A POINT OR TWO, BUT I DO APPOLOGIZE AS I LOVE MY TRIBALS, I LOVE PAK MILITARY AND I LOVE ALL OF PAKISTAN.

WAR CAN BE VERY DEADLY AND UGLY. MUSHARRAF'S PLAYING CAT AND MOUSE GAME IMMEDIATELY AFTER 9/11 MUST HAVE BEEN A RIGHT THING AS INDIA WAS MORE THAN WILLING TO JOIN IN AGAINST US. AND EVEN OUR BEST FRIEND CHINA DID NOT TAKE OUR SMALL NUCLEAR ARSENAL FOR HIDING EVEN WHEN WE REQUESTED FOR IT.AND SUDIA AND JORDAN WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY JOINED AGAINST US ON A SINGLE TWICH OF FINGER FROM AMERICA AS THEY DID AGAINST SADDAM EVEN AFTER EMBRACING HIM AS AN ARAB BROTHER BEFORE 1990 WAR.I HAVE MY VERY DEAR ONES IN PAKISTAN AND I PLAN TO SPEND MY POST RETIREMENT LIFE THERE AFTER 7 MONTHS.I,LIKE EVERY OTHER PAKISTANI WANT TO SEE THE COUNTRY VERY NEUTRAL,VERY SAFE AND FREE OF THIS LOOMING WW3 EQUATION WHICH IS VERY RAPIDLY GRIPPING THE WORLD.

NOT ALL PEOPLE CAN BE BRAVE LIKE THE TRIBALS AS NOT ALL OF THEM WANTED TO DIE IN TORA BORA DAIZY CUTTER BOMBINGS.MANY OR EVEN MOST FLED AFTER THEY SAW TREMENDOUSLY SCATTERED HUMAN FLESH SPLINTERRED AND STICKING TO TREE LEAVES AND TWIGS AND MOST LEFT THE AREA.

YOU CANNOT FIGHT NUKES WITH SWORDS AS ONE TABLIGHI JAMAAT WAS TALKING IN A MOSQUE IN CANADA.THESE, OTHERWISE SAINTS AND GOOD PEOPLE,WERE MENTIONING THAT 313 IN BADAR HAD NO ATOM BOMBS,NO TANKS,NO AIR PLANES AND NO ARTILLERY.THEY HAD ONLY SWORDS AND ARROWS TO FIGHT AGAINST ANY ODDS.THEN A FRIEND OF US INTERRUPTED AND SAID AS SUCH:

"WELL,THE ENEMY OF THE 313 HAD NO NUKES,NOR AIRPLANES,NOR TANKS NOR ARTILLERY."

THE TABLIGHI MAN THEN FIRED BACK ON THE QUESTIONEER AS SUCH:

"IMAAN KI KAMZORI HEI."

IT WILL BE JUST GOOD TO STAY WISE AND NEUTRAL AS THE AMBITIOUS WAR MONGERS ARE GEARING UP FOR WW3.

THE PAKS CAN BE KEPT SAFE BY BRINGING ALL OF TRIBAL AREAS TO COMPLETE NEUTRALITY AND PASSIVE SO THAT NO ONE ASSUMES US WRONGLY OR FALSELY UNDER THE SUSPICION OF RADAR SCREEN.

I THINK ONE GOOD MITIGATION FOR PEACE PART WAS DONE WELL WHEN MUSHARRAF SAID NO TO DICK CHENNY FOR INVASION ROUTE INTO IRAN. WE WERE AS MUCH BOLD AS TURKS WERE FOR REFUSING INVASION ROUTE INTO IRAQ.

WHY SHOULD WE BE PAERT OF MEGA DANGERS FOR THOSE, WHO WOULD'NT CARE FOR US AFTERWARDS.TODAY'S WORLD ONLY LOOKS FOR SELF INTERESTS.

MY VERY FIRST ARTICLE DID SHOW CONCERNS ABOUT BB GRANTING AMERICA-NATO IN.TRIBALS ARE MORE SAFE HAVING PAK MILITARY AROUND RATHER THAN US-NATO AROUND.

AND,AS PAK FOREIGN OFFICE LADY OF WISDOM AN CHARM TASNIM ASLAM HAS TALKED OF INDIA'S SPOILS COMPLICATING THE SITUATION IN THE TRIBAL AREAS,IT WILL BE MUCH WISER FOR PAK MILITARY AND THE TRIBALS TO PLAY COMPROMISES AND CONCESSIONS.

AND NO MATTER WHAT MY FELLOW PAKISTANI MR GHULAM RASOOL THINKS ABOUT ME,I HAVE A HUMBLE VISION THAT CIVIL-MILITARY DIVIDE HAS ALWAYS PROVED FATAL FOR ANY COUNTRY.

CIVILIANS AND MILITARY BELONG TO EACH OTHER IN EVERY COUNTRY.SURE,THERE ARE TOUGH AND UGLY CIRCUMSTANCES ONCE IN A WHILE FOR EVERY NATION AND EVERY PERSON.BUT,NOTHING WORKS BETTER THAN COMPROMISES, CONCESSIONS AND THE SENSE OF PEACE MAKING.

UNITED WE STAND AND DIVIDED WE FALL.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 15 October, 2007

We are a peace nation.

PEACE THROUGH CONCESSIONS AND COMPROMISES BY OUR TRIBALS, OUR MILITARY AND US WHOLE NATION AT LARGE CAN BE THE BEST AND GREATEST THING FOR US AND FOR THE WORLD.

IN-FIGHTING AND WARS ARE DETRIMENTAL FOR ALL SOCIETY. EVEN THE WORLD'S RICHEST, MIGHTIEST AND TECHNOLOGICALLY THE MOST ADVANCED AMERICA IS GRIPPED BY VICIOUS LOSS THROUGH CYCLE OF:"TOUGH GETS GOING AND GOING GETS TOUGH."

EVEN THE MIGHTIEST NATION ON EARTH IS NOT ONLY LOOSING BY SPENDING 100 BILLION DOLLARS IN WARS, THERE ARE OTHER BIGGER OFFSHOOT MONETARY LOSSES AS SUCH:

THE WORLD'S OIL PRICES, IF YOU TAKE IRAN FACTOR AWAY, SHOULD BE AT 55 DOLLARS RATHER THAN 80 DOLLARS PER BARREL.THIS OIL PRICE FACTOR IS COSTING THE WORLD AND AMERICA OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS. THE OIL PRICE FINANCIAL SQUUEZE OF AMERICA ALONE ON ITS 23 MBPD REFINING CAPACITY IS 600 MILLION DOLLARS PER DAY OR 220 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

AND THE AMERICAN DOLLAR HAS LOST 15-18 PERCENT OF ITS FACE VALUE THAT CUTS THE AMERICA'S WEALTH'S REAL WORTH DOWN BY OVER 2 TRILLION DOLLRS(FROM 14 TRILLION TO LESS THAN 12 TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR)

PAKISTAN HAS TO STAY VERY NEUTRAL AND SHOULD LEAVE NO SUSPICION ON ANY BODY's RADAR SCREEN ABOUT OUR BEING A NATION OF PEACE.

PAKISTAN CAN BE PART OF MITIGATING TERROR, BUT WE DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF WW3 EQUATION GRIPPING THE WORLD FOR GOING INTO MEGA WAR THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN.

THE PROPENSITY OF MITIGATING FIGHTING AND LARGE NUMBER CAPTURE ON BOTH SIDES IN TRIBAL AREA IS OMEN THAT OUR DEAR TRIBALS AND MILITARY ARE ALSO DOING SOMEC PEACE LADEN ACTS AMIDST SAD AND SHAMEFUL FIGHTING, WHICH SHOULD BE OVER IN IMMEDIATE FUTURE IF NOT YESTERDAY.BY THE GRACE OF ALLAH IT WILL BE, IN IMMEDIATE FUTURE, COMPLETE STOP OF HOSTILITIES WITH NOT A DROP OF BLOOD SPILLED.

WE DON'T LIVE FOR REVENGE OR CONTINUED HATE. OUR GREAT PEOPLE LIVE FOR FORGIVENESS AND INSTANT PEACE IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

ALLAH GRANT US THE SERENETY TO LIVE WITH PEACE, COMPROMISES, CONCESSIONS AND FORGIVENESS. ALLAH HELP US THAT NO ONE GETS A SLIGHTEST DOUBT ON OUR BEING PEACE NATION THAT IS HARMFUL TO NONE.


Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 15 October, 2007

let's all get aboard on peace train.

WITH THE WORLD SITUATION WEST OF PAKISTAN PRECIPITATING INTO DANGEROUS modes, WE MUST,IN PAKISTAN, STEER FREE OF GETTING SUCKED INTO WW 3 EQUATION.

LET THE WORLD'S MIGHTIEST SORT OUT THEIR THINGS ON US OR THE OTHER SIDE BLOCKS WITH THEIR ALLIES PLAYING WITH DANGERS AS THEY WISH.

WE HAVE NO REASON, FOR OUR SECURITY SAKE, TO BE PRO OR ANTI ANY BODY AND TO PLAY ANY PARTISAN ROLE. PERFECT NEUTRALITY CAN MAKE THE BEST SENSE FOR US.OUR TRIBAL BROTHERS CAN STAY ON NEUTRALITY SIDE AS WELL LIKE ALL OF PAKISTAN, AND PAK MILITARY CAN ALSO REST AND ENJOY NEUTRALITY AT BEST.IT IS NO FUN TO FEEL LIKE SOME AFGHANIS IN CANADA TALKING AS SUCH:

"CANADA IS BORING AND WE ARE NOT HAPPY WHEN WE ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST OUTSIDERS OR AMONGST OURSELVES."

WE ALL PAKISTANIS MUST EMBRACE PEACE AND COMPLETE NEUTRALITY.LET THE MIGHTIEST SORT OUT THEIR PROBLEMS ON THEIR OWN.IT IS NONE OF OUR INTEREST IF THEY COLLIDE HEAD ON OR OTHERWISE.THEY CAN FIGHT FOR OIL OR TERRORISM IN DISGUISE OR TRUE WHERE IT THREATENS THEM.WHEN, WE ARE NOT A PARTY TO ANY TERRORISTS, IT WON'T BE OUR HEADACHE.

IT LOOKS THAT THE WORLD'S TWO MIGHTIEST BLOCKS ARE SHAPING INTO POWERFUL POWER BLOCKING THAT COULD SLIP INTO WW 3 SCENARIO.

MY DEAR TRIBALS SHOULD HAVE FUN WITH REST OF PAK PEOPLE LIKE PASHTOONS, PUNJABIS, BALUCHIS AND SINDHIS AND SING PEACE TOGETHER WITH US.AND OUR MILITARY CAN JOIN THE NATION IN PEACE CELEBRATION AND EVEN EXTEND PEACEFUL HAND TO INDIA AND THE WORLD.

AND WE MUST NEVER BEHAVE IN A WAY TO GET SUCKED INTO WW3 SCENARIOS THAT COULD TURN OUR COUNTRY INTO KILLING FIELDS.

AND BB AND NS AND CJP AND IMRAN KHAN CAN ALSO JOIN THE PEACE DANCE AND CELEBRATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR US AND THE WORLD.NO ROOM FOR BB TO INVITE FOREIGN TROOPS INTO TRIBAL AREAS.AND THE TRIBALS WITH NO CONNECTION OR INTERACTION WITH ANY TROUBLE LEADING OUT FROM THERE, THE MILITARY CAN REJOICE PEACE SAGA IN THEIR BARRACKS.

AND THAT BB CAN TRANSFORM INTO PRETTY PEACE BABE, WHOM WE WILL KISS A LOT AS PEACE BEAUTY IN HER LOVERLY PEACE ROLE.

WHY SAIL INTO TROUBLE ZONES, WHEN WE CAN ENJOY PEACE IN OUR COUNTRY PAKISTAN.

MY COUNTRY IS MUCH ENJOYABLE AS A PEACE NATION WITH ITS VERY LOVELY PEOPLE.THE GOLD AND TAN PEOPLE OF PUNJAB, SINDH AND BALUCHISTAN, LIGHT AND WHITE SKIN BEAUTIES OF KASHMIR, NWFP AND THE TRIBALS DO NOT HAVE TO BE BLOODIED RED FOR SOME BODY ELSE'S HEADACHES AND YEARNINGS TO DOMINATE THE WORLD'S ENERGY AND OTHER RESOURCES.

SO, MY DEAR PAK CIVIL AND MILITARY AND THOSE WONDERFULLY SWEET AND LOVELY TRIBALS, LET'S GET ON BOARD THE PEACE TRAIN AND HAVE PEACE FUN.

AND LET THAT BEAUTY BABE OR BB WHISLE PEACE WITH HER ROSE TYPE LIPS TO KEEP DANGERS AWAY FROM ALL OF PAKISTAN.

WE ARE FRIENDS IN PEACE NEED, AND ARE FRIENDS INDEED.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 15 October, 2007

Lets look within us

My Only Question is...if we call Pakistan a Country, why people of NWFP do not obey our countrys laws.
Whats a need of tribal elders and Political agents in NWFP...that used to be in British times 70 yrs ago....why have we tolerated it if we say Pakistan is a country?

Usman Ullah, Pakistan - 15 October, 2007

United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates

United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates
This is utterly a misperception & ignorance of many that Taliban are simply reacting or they are just defending themselves and that they do not having any agenda to be pursued in Pakistan.
Whereas in fact, as workers having been despaired by their political leaders (viz dealers) in Pakistan - similarly Taliban were despaired by their ‘religio-political dealers/teachers’ (viz the so called Afghan Mujahideen) given the long infighting for the power by so called Afghan Mujahideen after soviet army were driven out from Afghanistan. None among the warlords of the Taliban’s teachers/dealers had yet prevailed over Afghanistan entirely that they were yearning for separation of Baluchestan & NWFP in the first instance and annexing them with the greater ‘United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates’ (viz UAIE) - and thereafter they shall establish a strong base for the liberation of the loaded Arab Sheikhdoms from the US according to their vision!!! And this was the raison d'être of convergence between Merchant Osama & Mullah Omar and this was the basis for establishing the hard cover guerilla outfit; ‘the Base’ (viz Al-Qaeda). This is not simply my personal thinking rather this is my personal observation while I was participating in the camp for 22 days training program in training cum launching camp of warlord, Gulbadin Hikmat Yar known as Al-fatah Ghund situated in a suitable & safe mountain terrain of Tal - and as such I can say that I have been eyewitness to this deliberation that was conceived by warlords mostly on Pakistan soil during the ‘Over & Omni-asylum’ in Pakistan long before Afghanistan of Taliban.
US, Pakistan and other were thinking that they were using Afghans Mujahideen for their ends but in fact Afghans Mujahideen were using US, Pakistan & others for their ends!!!
I mean to say that present spearhead of Afghan Taliban, Local Taliban and Al-Qaeda are not reacting against Pakistan Armed Forces rather they acting and working on single & common agenda since long for establishing ‘United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates’ and finally to liberate and talibaniz Arab Sheikhdoms and finally set up the ‘World Islamic Khilafat’. In fact US intervention in Afghanistan is blessing in disguise for Pakistan, for had US not attacked Afghanistan ‘they’ would have launched their onslaught long before against Pakistan in the first instance!!! There is no doubt that US government is more brutal & cruel than can be imagined but the misfortune is that our Taliban are second to none in barbarism by the wrath of Allah Almighty!!!
People with no competent leadership are never having any role to play they are simply ruled or rolled over.


aftab alam advocate, Pakistan, Pakistan - 16 October, 2007

United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates

This is utterly a misperception & ignorance of many that Taliban are simply reacting or they are just defending themselves and that they do not having any agenda to be pursued in Pakistan or somewhere else.

Whereas in fact, as workers having been despaired by their political leaders (viz dealers) in Pakistan - similarly Taliban were despaired by their ‘religio-political dealers/teachers’ (viz the so called Afghan Mujahideen) given the long infighting for the power by so called Afghan Mujahideen after soviet army were driven out from Afghanistan. None among the warlords of the Taliban’s teachers/dealers had yet prevailed over Afghanistan entirely that they were yearning for separation of
Baluchestan & NWFP in the first instance and annexing them with the greater so called ‘United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates’ (viz UAIE) - and thereafter they shall establish a strong base for the liberation of the loaded Arab Sheikhdoms from the US according to their vision & version of Islam!!! And this was the raison d'être of convergence between Merchant Osama & Mullah Omar and this was the basis for establishing the hard cover guerilla outfit; ‘the Base’ (viz Al-Qaeda). This is not simply my personal thinking rather this is my personal observation while I was student and was participating in the training package for 22 days training program in training cum launching camp of warlord, Gulbadin Hikmat Yar, known as Al-fatah Ghund situated in a suitable & safe mountain terrain of Tal - and as such I can say that I have been eyewitness to this deliberation that was conceived by warlords mostly on Pakistan soil during the ‘Over & Omni-asylum’ in Pakistan long before Afghanistan of Taliban.

US, Pakistan and other were thinking that they were using Afghans Mujahideen for their ends but in fact Afghans Mujahideen were using US, Pakistan & others for their ends!!!

I mean to say that present spearhead of Afghan Taliban, Local Taliban and Al-Qaeda are not reacting against Pakistan Armed Forces rather they are acting and working on single & common agenda since long for establishing ‘United Afghanistan Islamic Emirates’ and finally to liberate and talibaniz Arab Sheikhdoms and finally set up the so called ‘World Islamic Khilafat’ in accordance with their version of Islam. In fact US intervention in Afghanistan is blessing in disguise for Pakistan, for had US not attacked Afghanistan ‘they’ would have launched their onslaught long before against Pakistan in the first instance!!!
There is no doubt that US government is more brutal & cruel than can be imagined but the misfortune is that our Taliban are second to none in barbarism by the wrath of Allah Almighty!!!
People with no competent leadership are never having any role to play they are simply ruled or rolled over.
I mean to convey that there may be other beneficiaries of war against terrorism that is underway in Pakistan but it is the issue of life & death so far as Pakistan is concerned.
Taliban are friends of none and enemy of everyone who are not converted to them!!! I doubt that Taliban has been created against Islam as Khawarij were created by the then Jews against Islam!!!





Aftab Alam Advocate (High Court), Pakistan - 16 October, 2007

Let us all Paks embrace peace.

THE VERY DEVELOPMENTS OF FAR REACHING, OF TURNING POINT AND EVEN DANGEROUS TO CONDUCING PEACE HAVE STRUCK IN THE WEST OF PAKISTAN AND ALL THE WAY TO AMERICA. THEY REQUIRE VERY PEACEFUL APPROACH OF MAKING PAK FLASH SPOT WAZIRISTAN GET PASSIFIED SO THAT WE CANNOT GET SUCKED INTO THE LOOMING AND POSSIBLE WW3 SCENARIO BUILDING UP CLOSE TO OUR BORDERS.THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE AS SUCH:

1. THE WAR RATCHETTED HYSTERIA OF MADDENING PITCH ADMIXED WITH SOME PEACEF LADEN APPROACH WITH LITTLE RAY OF PEACE SENSE.

2. RUSSIA AND CASPIAN SEA LITTORAL STATES LED BY MR PUTIN HAVE WARNED AMERICA ON INVASION OF IRAN FROM ANY INVASION PAD IN CENTRAL ASIA.

3. CHINA'S VERY FURIOUS RESPONSE NOT TO EVEN TALK WITH AMERICA ON IRAN.

4. TURKEY'S IMMINENT TALK OF SENDING MILITARY INTO KURDISTAN, WHO ARE THE STAUNCHEST SUPPORTER OF DIVISION OF IRAQ INTO THREE COUNTRIES WITH KURDS BEING THE DARLINGS OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL.

5.INDIA'S PRIME MINISTER'S DESPERATE PHONE CALL TO MR BUSH ON TROUBLE AT HOME AGAINST CIVILIAN NUCLEAR DEAL OR PACT WITH AMERICA WITH STRONG POSSIBILITY OF TOTAL DERAILING OF THE US-INDIA NUCLEAR RELATED HONEY MOON.

ALL THE ABOVE AND MANY OTHER NERVE WRENCHING DEVELOPMENTS OF THE PAST FEW DAYS REQUIRE THAT PAK FLASH SPOT WAZIRISTAN BE WORKED WITH RESTRAINTS AND PEACE MASSAGE TO MAKE ALL OF PAKISTAN LOOK AS A VERY PEACE LOVING COUNTRY. WITH NO INTENT TO BE SUCKED INTO WW 3 EQUATION, PAKS SHOULD WORK ON GIVING NO BODY ANY SUSPICION OF PUTTING ANY PART OF US ON THE RADAR SCREEN OF DANGER.

TO BE VERY SAFE AND SECURE, PAK TRIBALS AND MILITARY AND POLITICIANS HAVE TO STAND BY THE SIDE OF PEACE WITH NO INTERACTION WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL DANGERS. WE WANT TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND ONLY LOVE FOR PEACE WILL DO IT.

NO BODY OR PEOPLE OR AREA OF PAKS SHOULD STRADDLE THEIR THOUGHTS OR MOVES INTO GREY ZONES OF DANGER ENVELOPING AROUND OUR BORDERS AND BEYOND.

OUR DEAR TRIBALS WILL CONFINE THEMSELVES INTO PAKISTAN IN ALL INTERACTIONS, WHILE OUR MILITARY, MUSHARRAF AND BB WILL HAVE TO DEAL THE TRIBALS SOFTLY AND WITH LIGHT HANDED AMICABLE MOODS AND MODES.

NO ACTOR AMONGST PAKS WILL FIDDLE AND DANCE WITH OUTSIDERS THAT MIGHT SUCK US INTO THE DANGEROUS WW3 EQUATION DEVELOPING AROUND US.

IF INDIA PACIFIES AND KISSES GOOD BY TO US-INDIA NUCLEAR DEAL UNDER THE TREMENDOUS PRESSURE OF THE OPPOSITION, PAKISTAN AND INDIA CAN SHOW THE PEACE RELATED LEADERSHIP TO THE WORLD IN A MUTUAL EMBRACE AND LOVE FOR PEACE.

AND OUR RULERS AND MILITARY AND POLITICIANS REQUIRE URGENT CHANGE IN POLICIES THAT PUT US ON BOARD OF PEACE TRAIN.OUR MILITARY AND GOVERNANCE AND BB AND ALL POLITICIANS WILL HAVE TO ACT AND BEHAVE VERY NEUTRAL WITH NO SIDING OR AGAINST ANY OF THE MIGHTY PLAYERS ON THE POSSIBLE LOOMING WW3 DANGERS.

WE WANT TO SURVIVE AS A NATION AND PEOPLE. ANY ONE IN MILITARY OR GOVERNANCE OR THE POLITICIANS WANTING TO TAKE SIDES OR PREFERENCES IN SIDING WITH ONE DANGEROUS PLAYER OR THE OTHER ARE OUR BIGGEST ENEMIES AND THE DESTROYERS OF OUR NATION.

AND ALSO, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT OUR TRIBALS, OUR MILITARY AND BB ADOPT VERY NEUTRAL STANCE IN THE FACE OF THE LOOMING DANGERS THAT CAN EASILY TAKE ALL MANKIND TO WW3.

UNDER THESE VERY DANGEROUS CIRCUMSTANCES, I AM TEMPTED TO SUPPORT MR NAWAZ SHARIF AS THE MAN HAS THE PROPENSITY TO CHICKEN HIMSELF AND THE NATION OUT OF THE DANGERS LOOMING AROUND US IN THE HISTORY'S MOST DEFINING AND DANGEROUS MOMENTS.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 17 October, 2007

Solution or Critcisim

I appreciate the people who have done the hard work of criticism.
Now why not give out your solutions and discuss there application.
Ground reality is that there are about more than 1 million inhabitants in North Waziristan and all of them are armed warriors, so please tell me a plan how to deal with those people.
Should waging a war a better solution or making them war adversary against few hundreds foreign militants is a right step forward?

Siddique, Pakistan - 18 October, 2007

declaring war

declaring war is a statment that is normaly issued by the head of the state when that the state feels under threat from an external power. What normly follows this realty is the ruler then unleashes his army to defend the nation using any means that he possibly has under his disposal .It is strange case when a ruler claiming to be enlightend and very civil person who looks towards the west and aspires to be like them.
The ruler then unleashes the army on the population of his own nation indiscrimately killing women children etcc.The question that i would like to ask is where in the western world do we see any of the European nations or even America ever using f16 fighters on the home territories, i can not think of any example of such a situation ever taking place.The only conclusion that one can arrive at is that the ruler does not feel that his loyalties rest with the nation, that he has been born into but feels close affiliations with some other people.
In my opinion the only solution for the problems that Pakistan is facing is the policy of "Pakistan first".but in the true sense of Pakistan first not America first,last and the only one.
placing the interest of Pakistan first would mean building a bond among the different provinces not based on nationalism but rather for the purpose for which this nation was created, which is the shahada.
which then will insure that all the people in different provinces are not treated as inferior to any one else IE as the Bloch are.
second action that should take place is the concentration of developing the heavy industries as was done by Germany after the ww1 which would remove the reliance that we have on the western nations.
the only way this can be achieved is by having a sincere leadership which runs its affairs according to some principles, and not by recycling the current corrupt clique that we have.

Mohamed, United Arab Emirates - 18 October, 2007

Don't propagate non-sense

Peoples who are blaming Mujahideen as foreigners must feel shame if those exists. To date not a single foreigner is shown to media neither those are allowed to report from area. It is neo-cons language to divide nation for vested interests on secterian, ethnic and racial lines. If government is sincire it must stop taking money for their killed soldires. I think continous propaganda has brain washed such elements. If those areas are so bad and peoples are terrorists then why Mush was begging for votes from their representatives. MQM mentality fascists and some peoples in Fauji Political Party have taken it matter of prestige, otherwise solution is not difficult. Using jets and heilycopters is insane, there are only three powers who are brutally killing humans with superiority of air power, US, Israel and Pakistan.
If matter of Kashmir could be solved in shameless manner then why Waziristan matter could not be solved. In fact every thing is going on according to distance of one phone call, NRO and Jamia Hafsa had a distance of one phone call. Peoples who were blaming and Moulvies who were issuing sermons about legality of land occupied by Jamia Hafsa, now tell public that all white elephants have illegal lands at Rawal Dam including Mush and Shakuit Aziz. This is the character of clean creed. Benazir has allowed to keep $150 billion in her pocket all looted money. Why Pak Army did not launch operation against those corrupt peoples but generals were involved in pardon of national wealth, have they authority under the oath to involve in blundres.
FATA area is armed before the creation of Pakistan, those arms were used in defense of Pakistan, it was mistake of american agents to divert those guns against them. It require political solution.
Who will pay the real price of our precious army Jawans killed in invading on own citizens. Neither it is service of nation nor religious. Economical benefits are under control of generals, peoples are receiving no share of that $10 billion plus bounties and merceneries stipend.
Peoples who are talking military solution are fascist and against existance of Pakistan. Media has its own vested interests to propagate for ads. It is proved that all threats on the name of Taliban against Benazir were fake, but BBC was first to float such baseless propaganda.
Don't throw stones on others while sitting in glass house. Present leadership is nangd e deen, nang e insaniyat and made Pakistanis appologatic in front of international community.

Khadim Husain, Pakistan - 18 October, 2007

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