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28 July, 2008

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The situation in the NWFP is extremely worrisome as the last Wednesday’s meeting (23rd July, 2008) of coalition partners was warned in plain words that the Frontier province was on a fast track of breaking away from Pakistan because of Islamabad’s blind following of Washington’s war on terror.

A presentation given by the Frontier government on the situation in the province, too, was quite disturbing for those who attended the meeting. According to the source, the Frontier government conceded that the influence of the Taliban had grown tremendously and extended to many parts of the settled districts of the province. The local Taliban had now the capacity to create trouble in the districts of Charsadda, Mardan and Hangu, which surround the provincial capital Peshawar.

In the south and north of Peshawar, their presence is felt, thus, creating alarms for the authorities. The PML-N representatives, led by Mian Shahbaz Sharif, too, expressed their complete dissatisfaction over the ongoing policy on the war on terror and urged that there was a dire need for making a national policy to meet the growing threat of extremism and terrorism. The meeting was told that President Musharraf’s eight-year policy to deal with such issues with the barrel of gun had put Pakistan’s future at stake.

Among the coalition partners, the PML-N and the JUI-F asked for an immediate review of Islamabad’s policy on the war on terror and insisted that the issue must be brought before parliament for detailed and extensive debate to formulate a home grown national policy on the issue.

  • Was Musharraf`s firm stand against Terrorism, the right step towards war against terrorism?
  • What sort of steps should be taken by the Govt. to save NWFP?
  • Should Pakistani Govt. go for talks or go with power against terrorists to save NWFP?
  • How Govt. can win the hearts of NWFP people?
  • Who is responsible for such extremely worrisome situation of NWFP?
  • Reader Comments:

    NWFP

    If America was the sole player, it would not have been that bad. Now, it is the Indian monkey that is riding every body to make all the spoils.America listens and acts on whatever this monkey tells it to do.You go through even Pakistan Forum Topix and you read about how proudly and daringly the Indians are talking from very malicious and vcious and agressive mode even with threats on lives of those Pakistanis who dare to even write about India's sinful acts.

    Well, they(Indians) are openly talking of their looming successs to break Baluchistan and NWFP away from Pakistan, then move into Punjab to do worse in history genocide of the punjabi people at rate of 100000 or more Punjabis that they are waiting to butcher a day.Some Pakistani tried to write against such barbarious written statements and you can read in Pakistan's own Pak Topix forum about what kind of threats them writers only Paks got from hindus living in India and outside in north America.

    Situation is dangerous and all our eggs are now in America basket.Our Chinese basket is perhaps empty now as we do not hear much about our only reliable friend that was china.After some thing happening where Chinese prime minister was not invited to do inauguration of Gawader port, it is different now.

    What it appears is that India is madly and viciously working on de-partitioning of 1947 minus NWFP.Much of Indian money has been spent for that malicious act.

    America desperately wants Afghanistan and NWFP and Baluchistan from where, in full collaboration and monkey riding US back guide of India, to have large and broad military and air bases to counter the rising power of China and the great alliance of China-Russia and Iran.It is appearing every now and then in the western press that Chinese economy will take over America's economy by 2030 or so and will double the size of American economy by 2045 or so.And wealthy nations or people allways make sure that they are secure sterngth wise too.

    The game is very dangerous for Paks--and for India as well, as China re-targetted 70-80 of its very powerful missiles on india a month ago.China's Tibet is the most safest and mountainous fortified place to locate its missiles deep and safe.

    So, Paks had hit misfortune on 9/11.To extricate out of it requires a very daring yet possible way.And neither Musharraf,nor any one else--Zardari or Nawaz or Gilani have the brains or guts to do it free way.May be,it is too dangerous either way.

    But,I think that the best way to walk through the most difficult time that no other country has as difficult, is to keep unity amongst us.

    WE MUST NOT RAISE OUR GUN ON ANY FELLOW PAK--FOR ANY CAUSE OR REASON.OUR WORSE ENEMY IN THIS CASE IS NOT AMERICA, BUT THE INDIAN MONKEY RIDING AMERICA'S BACK.

    WELL,GOD FORBID, IF PAKISTAN GOES DOWN, THEN INDIA AND AMERICA WILL GO DOWN TOO, BESIDES GETTING SANDWITCHED BETWEEN MIGHTY CHINA AND RUSSIA WHO ARE UNITED WITH THEIR PAT SHOULDER ON RISING IRAN-A FORMIDABLE TRIO.BUT, INDIA IS TRYING TO POISON AGAINST PAKS TO EVERY BODY.

    AMERICA WILL LOOSE AS INDIA WILL GRAB MIDDLE EAST OIL. AMERICA IS DEAD WITHOUT CAR CULTURE.YOU TAKE CAR CULTURE OUT-THAT ONLY AMERICA AND CANADA HAVE IT AND ALLWAYS HAD IT AS SOLE CAR CULTURE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, AMERICA CANNOT SURVIVE WITHOUT CAR CULTURE.AMERICAN ECONOMY REVOLVES AROUND DRIVING ALL THE TIME AND EVERY HOME HAS TWO THREE OR FOUR CARS THAT MAKE THE LIFE AND ECONOMY MORE MOBILE AND BETTER FUNCTIONING.INDIA WILL TELL AMERICA AFTER IT GRABS ME OIL AS:

    "SORRY, AMERICE, YOUR TIME IS OVER, NOW IT IS OUR TURN."

    PAKISTAN,GOD FORBID, WILL HAVE LOST AS PUNJAB ON ITS OWN WILL HAVE NO CHOICE OTHER THAN DROPPING BACK INTO INDIA TO UNDO THE PARTITION OF 1947.THE WORSE TRAGEDY WILL FALL ON PUNJAB AS THE INDIANS ARE WRITING A FULL BLOWN GENOCIDE OF THE PUNJABIS AS THEY HOLD PUNJABIS MAINLY RESPONSIBLE FOR PARTITION OF 1947.

    BUT, AMERICA CAN LOOSE IT ALL AND STILL ACT ON WHAT INDIAN MONKEY TELLS IT RIDING ON ITS BACK.

    AND CHINA WILL BE SO RICH AND POWERFUL IN 1930 AND AFTER THAT IT WILL GIVE A DAMN TO EITHER AMERICA OR INDIA OR BOTH.

    PAKISTAN HAS THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES AND WE PRAY TO ALLAH TO KEEP US UNITED, SAVE US AND HELP US STOP POINTING GUN AT ANY FELLOW PAK.

    Here are my answers to your questions:

    Was Musharraf`s firm stand against Terrorism, the right step towards war against terrorism?

    Musharraf's stand was unavoidable at that time, but it went too much off the board.

    What sort of steps should be taken by the Govt. to save NWFP?

    Minimize military action and talk of nation's unity.

    Should Pakistani Govt. go for talks or go with power against terrorists to save NWFP?

    Talks are the only way.

    How Govt. can win the hearts of NWFP people?

    Reverse your policies about phony terror. Think reality.

    Who is responsible for such extremely worrisome situation of NWFP?

    America and india with big designs against China-Russia and oil of middle east.





    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 28 July, 2008

    NWFP and Problem

    This is a very good article from Paktribune. It is correct that situation, not only, in NWFP but also in Baluchistan is very troublesome. And this game is played by Americans with the help of Afghanistan and India. It seems the US is hell-bent on breaking our homeland by separating Suba Sarhad and Baluchistan. In brief, I think history is going to be repeated what happened in 1971 when our brave 90, 000 soldiers shamelessly surrendered before Indians and Americans did not help us. So is the case, this time, with our long-term ally China who is more friend to Americans than to us and even it is becoming more friend to Indians than to us. This is due to our failed leadership. So, this is the right time to answer to the questions:

    1. Was Musharraf`s firm stand against Terrorism, the right step towards war against terrorism?
    No, not at all. He surrendered even our “eggs” to Americans and is playing as a puppet in the hands of Americans. Even next president of America, whether black or white, will follow the same policy of using Pakistan and its territory for erasing our own brothers.

    2. What sort of steps should be taken by the Govt. to save NWFP?
    There should be no military action against NWFP but to sort out their grievances.

    3. Should Pakistani Govt. go for talks or go with power against terrorists to save NWFP?
    Absolutely yes. Otherwise Indians, who are in nexus with Karzai, are going to be playing the same game what they did in 1971 in East Pakistan.

    4. How Govt. can win the hearts of NWFP people?
    Negotiations.

    5. Who is responsible for such extremely worrisome situation of NWFP?
    Our short-sighted leadership, our back-track and U-tern policy toward Afghanistan.

    Lai Khan Husain, Pakistan - 29 July, 2008

    Second coming of Agartala?

    The insurgency in FATA is kept alive by funds provided by RAW and KHAD with
    frequent funding from vested Interest in the West. ANP leader's visit to US last
    year was sponsored by New Delhi and he feels more secured with the advise
    from the ruling party in New Delhi than from his own party members.

    Unless they also plan to present the Six Point Agenda as the one that was presented that led to establishment of a new nation.

    Khalid Rahim, Canada - 30 July, 2008

    PUKHTOONISTAN

    It makes me laugh to read some comments here,everyone loves to critisize USA but don't bother to look at your own mistakes,first of all,none of the Paki Govt did anything for developement and spreading education in Tribal areas,secondly Gen ZIA and ISI supproted west aginst Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and these tribal areas became traing headquarters of mujahedeen who are turned now TALIBAN.Paki army and ISI supports these Taliban groups,its amazing that they can't shoot and kill Taliban leaders,on the other hand NAWAZ SHARIF took miilions of ruppes from OSAMA BIN LADEN,the real religious fanaticism is in PUNJAB,RAWIND IS cENTER OF RELIGIOUS FANAtics,its amazing TALIBAN see girls school in pukhtoonistan and destroys em but dont see HEERA MUNDI in lahore,so i think PUNJAB is the one who is behind genocide of pukhtoons.

    Mwaqar, United Kingdom - 01 August, 2008

    Frontier province

    It is neither Musharuf's fault nor an oversight by the current govt. It may be result of years of neglect of frntier province whre every govt tolerated lawlessness and allowed smuglers to have a free hand. Lately, Talban have found it easy to use this area as they were under severe pressure from Allied forces in Afghanistan. There is no silver bullet to solve the issue. The govt should try to deprogramme the people who have allowed themselves to manipulated by the elements who seemed determined to dimember Pakistan. They are naive that they could survive outside Pakistan as the only reason they are so far safe because Allied forces are using restraint because of Pakistan otherwise they will make it a lab or carpet bombing and destroy a part of Pakistan and the people who are Pakistanis. US will go away one day but these people need to realize that their future is with Pakistan and not away from it. In stead the govt and its friends should give them reasons to live rather than be inclined to die. This area should be developed so that Talibans can no longer recruit poor people to die and go to janat. You do't go to janat by killing your countrymen and Muslims. This brand of Islam needs to be exposed. Moreover it would help if US and its friends leave Iraq as well as Afghanistan and let Afghanistan and Iraq take care of their problems. The western presence in those two countries is one of the biggest mistake by America and its allies. They keep poisoning these two countries with their bombs and it is about time that the limitless war ends. The sooner they exit the quicker Taliban and co will be put out of busniess unless they will choose to turn Pakistan in to a hell like they have to Afghanistan for years. No Govt can negociate with people who act like they can do anything they want to and no one should stop them. We have to pray that a true education of Islam spreads in frontier region so that our brothers no longer suffer from war and lawlessness.

    Fakhar Masood, United Kingdom - 01 August, 2008

    Re:NWFP

    Mr Anwar face the truth that politics in Pakistan is still similar to feudal system and has been dominated by Pujabis and a Sindhi family others hardly have a role to play and it was a case in 1971 also and why blame some one else for what happened in 1971 , I've even heard that in some corners of pakistan there was a relief that east pakistan (the inferior part of the great muslim nation where only pathans and punjabis have rights is gone) people from East Pakistan were never liked in the power circles dominated by punjabis and sindhis.
    As for Taliban its not long ago that one of the Minister from Mrs Bhutto's ministry calle them "OUR BOYS" in Afghanistan now it seems its your own boys fighting against you.
    What you sow is what you reap

    Maverick, Hungary - 01 August, 2008

    NWFP

    No matter what Maverick and some one else may try to rabble rouse about some thing which is really beyond the control of any body, Pakistan has not performed bad.Even the biggest and most greedy feudalists of Pakistan do not suck money to themselves like those Ambani brothers and others. Poor Pakistanis do not sleep in the streets like in Bombay, Delhi and Calcutta.In India's business magnets case, the rule of wealth squandering holds so perfect as:

    "Money flows from poor to rich, from weak to strong and from needy to greedy."

    Pakistan's very richest feudalist is worth 1.5 billion dollars, while Ambani et al of India have got 60 billion dollars to each in a country whose per capita income is more or less same as that of Pakistan.

    Mr Maverick should understand that Pakistan had half or more prime ministers from east Pakistan. Who were PM like Nazim. Suharawardi, Muhammad Ali Bogra, I.I.Chundrigar.
    The problem in east Pakistan arose from a natural calamity of some worse floods in history and Indira Gandhi exploited the situation to the extent of dismembering Pakistan as even the best military srategists had declared east Pakistan un-defendable as no supplies or reinforcements were possible to deliver to Pak army.

    The situation in NWFP has arisen from and is carry over of war heroes for America. These heroes should have been rehabilitated as the soldiers from WW2, even enemy German soldiers were rehabilitated in America and Canada.When these jehadis were fighting for America and against USSR, even senior Bush used to go to Peshawar and declare as:

    "America is for Islamic Jehad." I bet if the west needed these jehadis again, they will be kissing jehadis feet again.

    Lots or even most trouble in NWFP is finance fanned by India.Besides, Bush and Pak PM Mr Gilani agreed with understanding about how pyramidal difficult job this is for a small country like Pakistan.Indians are relentlessly trying to make America go all out against Paks. But America has made it clear that America and Pakistan will work with co-operation.America does understand that the whole issue involves the fiercely independent people in NW of Pakistan.These are the same people who Alexander the Great and Chengez Khan described as toughest nuts to crack.These are the same people who defeated Brits and Russians and liberated and wrestled away almost half of Kashmir from India. And if these warriors were not trapped by Nehru's promise of plebiscite and begging of cease fire in his almost cry appeal in the UN, these tribals would have liberated all of Kashmir.

    Pakistan is most strategically located and America wants to be there.America has told Mr Gilani about America's respect of Pak soverignity.India fanned and financed most of trouble in Balochistan and NWFP.And India has failed in Baluchistan and is faling in Swat of NWFP.

    We must commend and admire Pakistan that it has nuclear parity or even better one even having one seventh population and one eighth economy compared to India.I must quote Indian think tanks who made statement such as:

    "We thought that after separation of east Pakistan as Bagladesh, Pakistan would finish on its own. But Pakistan has emerged as leaner and stronger."

    NWFP won't separate as Pathans and all Paks love each other. And for the information of Mr Mavericks, he must be told that Pathans of NWFP are very important and integral part of Pak army.Pathans are just one sixth of Pak braves population, but form one third of Pak military.

    There is no genocide of our very dear and lovable Pashtoons. There are few sad deaths shoot outs and few tragic cross fire deaths and all of Pakistan feels remorse on that.

    And the law and order forces in NWFP are again in the hands of our very sweet Pashtoons.

    It is India that is trying to make spoils. But Bush and Gilani have shown a very cordial togetherness to respect Pak feelings of hurt about deaths--the numbers is not even tiny fraction of one percent to call it genocide.

    Punjabis, Pathans, Sindhis, Balochs, Urdu speaking and the Kashmiris love each other with common bondage of Islam.

    And all united Paks feel more mad about vicious Indian attempt to defame Islamic religion.

    I was in Peshawar some months ago and I saw Pretty Pathan people waving the green Pakistani flag.I saw some most gorgeous looking Pathan beauties even whistling while waving the beautiful green flag of Pakistan.

    IF MAVERICK SEEMS TO BE EXPLOITING THE WORD,"OUR BOYS" used by a minister in the cabinet of that beauty looking BB Prime minister of Pakistan, what about senior Bush or father of current US president, who admired the same people of NWFP during Russo-Afghan war that made America the sole super power, and said as:

    "America is for Islamic Jehad."

    Even Churchill had talked in similar words about NWFP of Pakistan.



    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 02 August, 2008

    How to save NWFP?

    Q-1
    Musharraf as a true friend of Bush, has done what a friend is expected to do under such “Terrifying” circumstances. But, the important question in need of answer is, if the circumstances creating terror were genuine? Musharraf, a hard boiled soldier without much brains, a fact he openly admits in his book, is but the easiest man-horse to be taken for a ride. And this exactly is what we see today. He got Government of Nawaz hijacked on a flimsy hijack drama and got him sentenced through a judiciary inimical to Nawaz which he later got converted into exile to the holiest of places as his safe heaven, thanks to magnanimity of Saudi King . And later on, some left-over of humanity in Musharraf salvaged some of Nawaz.

    With the above back-ground, I tend to disagree that the war against terror is genuine. Therefore any apparent right step taken in the framed circumstances pointing only to disaster for Pakistan, whether through framed dictatorial democratic governance or through enemy in the guise of friend's installed authoritarian dictatorship is bound to benefit only the real but hidden enemy.

    Q2
    Steps to be taken by the Government to save NWFP? Are you serious? This question simply means to expect lion to stop predating and start grazing. This Government is nothing but a sharp move by the Grand Master to make the final kill, for which it has so far spent over three trillion Dollars during last 7 years to reach the present state which is, probably the climax of their covert plan to rule the world. The innocent question here wants the perpetrators of the biggest crime against humanity to dump their plan into the deep sea without reaping fruits. Can there be any greater naivety?

    Now, about. what the Government should do to save NWFP? Answer is very simple, but if the present Government has that orientation. All it has to do is, just “spill the beans” and tell everything it has bargained to gain its seat of power. It should also reveal what it really knows about Benazir Murder and demand UN investigation to use all possible means available through high-tech procedures, to examine Benazir's corpse without exhuming or touch the body itself. Progressive X-Ray pictures are now possible based upon depth of probes and seamless 3D, tell-tale image reproduction, giving vast range of information which is now possible for forensic analysis and probes.

    NWFP is a part of us and can never agree to leave the rest of its body in pains, once it gets the real facts. But, this is too much of an asking from those holding the fort under the articulated stage drama.

    Q3
    Again, this is a hypothetical question presuming terrorists actually originate from the NWFP. The world is concerned and alarmed at the extent of farce and deceit purposely created and spread about 9/11, obviously for meeting oblique targets. Al-Qaida and
    Taliban do not have capability to fly sophisticated commercial jets that we know have anti-hijack devices installed. Even Osama bin Ladan, a most trusted and reliable operative trained at high profile espionage centers is regarded as an icon in the US agencies. A recent book written by an ex-agent has praised ObL with very high accolades. It has also been stated in some media reports in the US that, insurgents are trained and sent to the tribal regions from the US under various guises like those “declared” clean and released from Guantanamo Bay, to aggravate terror because, no war against terror can be extended without extending the terror itself.
    With this background in mind, going into any dialogue with those “terrorists” is as good as going in dialogue with the Allied forces to convince them that, the terror is their own invention and they should just abandon their plan for our asking.

    Q4
    People of NWFP have a very deep memory and they are known to carry revenge genes at least up to 7 generations. Therefore, to win their hearts, they need to be convinced and assured that the Government had been hoodwinked and cheated by the real enemies and it needs their support and active participation in its genuine fight against the real enemy with result oriented approach. Again, this is something not expected of the current Government which actually has been found subservient to the US, as amply displayed by the shameless disgraceful treatment meted out to our PM we are adamant to call a democratic head of a sovereign state of Pakistan.

    Q5
    Those who know our weaknesses better than us and have perfected techniques to use them to their maximum advantage are responsible. But, then we have a billion Dollar question to answer i.e why the US is taking such troubles to sanitize our tribal areas by adopting completely insane ways, means, price and devices? For a convincing answer to this worrying question, we shall have to develop and employ our Think-Tank force capable of deciphering the terror code created by our adversary and effectively countering it. Definitely, a very tall order.

    M.Saeed, Pakistan - 02 August, 2008

    Paks love NWFP

    This is a good topic on Paktribune for us Paks to massage love of all us Pakistanis on NWFP.NWFP won't be lost as there is too much love for pathans in the hearts of all Pakistanis of all ethnicities.Pathans are integrated in the hearts of all Pakistanis through our love for Pathans looks and likes.

    Even in the most dangerous and challenging circumstances of the world that have made Pak geo-strategy as the most wanted and haunted to interact, interpose and use it to project their global agendas on Pak soil which some how appears to be the most auspicious geography where all the mighty ones like US, China and Russia and the energy resource full middle east can be accessed.

    Pakistan's foreign policy now appears to be much accomodative.It uses carrots with as little show and play of sticks to any Pak.Inside all Pakistani hearts, there is love for Pathans from the bottom of our hearts.

    And our PM Mr Gilani has demonstrated mostly carrots think tanks attitude and talks to Mr Bush so much so that the discussion every where where weighed more heavily on improving Pak economy with financial help for Pakistan in the very high energy and food costs times throughout the world.

    Pakistan PM Mr Gilani played the tunes successfully to keep NWFP as Pakistan affair only with no interaction or interferences from outside.And Pak use of army is restricted and that too with constrains and constrictions only where the Pathan government of NWEP requests for it.Some little casualties are common even in Pathans internal feuds, which spill more blood within their own martial tempramental acts than the rabble rousers are multiplying the facts billion times to misnomer it as genocide. Shame on rabble rousers, who are almost all Indians.

    And whether it was in America or SAARC show, Pak PM interposed with his striking looks and personality.Even in very important meetings with president Bush or Mr Gates or Coca Cola chief, Mr Gilani out shown all with his extra-ordinary personality and looks.To that effect our Pk P.M reminded of the days when John F Kennedy stole all the show by interposing his personality and looks.To that very effect, Pakistan's PM was the re-incarnated John Kennedy on the world's political theater.

    Pakistan is not going to loose NWFP and Pakistan is not going to the dogs of any kind or sort.Pakistan's geo-strategy is too important for the whole world and the best way of act is to make it all Pakistan affair.Loss of Pakistan is too dangerous for all.Even America does'nt want to see India enter middle east oil to replace America that could spell the fall of the west's control of the world of the past three or four centuries,deprive America and Canada of the world's only car culture and sink the west into beggar house.

    Yes Pakistan's geo-strategic importance was the sole reason that Bush and Gates and others were talking mostly of improving Pak economies.i would request all Pak expats to increase their remmittence to their relatives in Pakistan, visit and spend generously in grass root stores and hotels there and buy and eat as much made in Pakistan foods in Pakistani stores only outside of country. I would request my Pak sisters to wear and look even prettier in clothes that are tailored and or made in Pakistan.So, let us all think pakistan.even our John Kennedy alike looks PM Mr Gilani emphacized in America that Pak expats should work for the image improving of Pakistan united and with no different directions of ethnicities.

    Shame on those enemies who even use misnomer insult of false rabble rousing of genocide in Pakistan.

    Our very sweet and dear pathans in NWFP or Karachi or Punjab or Balochistan are lovable, livable and their beauty is just unforgivable for attraction reasons.Pathan bravery was talked highly even by Alexander the Great and Chengez khan.

    And the gorgeously pretty looks of Pathan women and girls can steal your hearts right out of you.I have had touch of lovely and loverly Pathan faces on my heart on many many occasions inside and outside of Pakistan. Only months ago, I saw those beauties whistling and shouting with joy with green pak flags in their hands while I was in Murree on independence day.Even the Indians consider Mumtaz Mahal(Madubala) as the prettiest star that Bollywood ever produced.

    And Paks had on Lollywood( I believe that I am the inventor of the word Lollywood in my poem in Pakistan Canada Association news letter in 1994 and couple years after the name Lollywood was every where)even more gorgeos and pretty Sonia Khan-the Pathan beauty Sonia Khan with bluest eyes and most alabaster white face of Sonia Khan of the Pak film "Direct Havaldar".I believe that Sonia Khan was much prettier than her Pathan sister even Madubala.

    We Paks love our Pathans and NWFP and there is no two ways other than love and love only for our sweet , lovely, loverly and lovable Pathans.

    NWFP will be loved part of Pakistan far beyond for ever.








    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 03 August, 2008

    Nice reply by Anwar Saab

    Hey Mr. Anwar Mahmood you gave a nice reply to coward Indian or Endian Maverick's statement. These Indian rats always try to exploit other south asian country's inner problems. These Indian/Endian rats do not allow others to put criticising remarks in their forums, but they come to Pakistani forum and write all bad things about Pakistan. These Endian rats should not be allowed to post in Pakistani forums.

    Hasan, Bahrain - 03 August, 2008

    NWFP: Now Waiting For Pakhtunistan

    Here is response to a guy who seems to be enjoying twist this ongoing topic for his own malicious purposes from a very typical Punjabi mindset. It is clear from his writing that he is not interested to answer to the questions posed by the editors of this article.

    He, the self-styled “coiner” of the word “lollywood” and believes selling “lollypops to pathans, seems to be more interested in Afghan beauties waving Pakistani flags rather than coming to the real problems we Pashtun are facing in this country named Pakistan where everything “napak” is meted out to Baluchs, Sindhis, and Pathans by perverted and parochial Punjabis. It is due to their discriminative policy toward Benghalees that, consequently, partitioned Pakistan and came into existence.
    Perhaps one's perverted Punjabi mind does not know that since the 1950s, Afghanistan is supporting a freedom movement that is gaining substantial support amongst the tribes of the NWFP. The Pashtunistan issue is keeping Pakistan and Afghanistan at odds for decades. And, the seeds of this disease were sown by Mohammad Ali Jinnah who dismissed the Congress-led government of the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) by decree, and instead of ordering fresh elections, appointed a Muslim League leader as the chief minister with the mandate to whip up parliamentary support for himself.
    And result is in front of the rest of the world: Murder of Nabab Bugti, unrest in Pakhtunistan, Pashto is not allowed to be taught in Pakhtunistan and overall exploitation by punjabies to the Balochs, Sindhis, and Pashtuns. Besides, why this country gave a “gifted” a part of Kashmir to China when it cries and claims to help kashmiris. I could not understand this type of help. Next time it mat gift balochistan to Iran, and Sindh & Punjab to India and only a guy from India who claims himself to be the president of this rogoue country will left behind and will run away to India where he born. Amin!
    Khub ast?
    Zainubulla Hamid Orkzai, Nowshera


    Zainubulla Hamid Orkzai, Nowshera, United Kingdom - 04 August, 2008

    Napak Army in froefront of destroying Pakistan.

    Napak army has always been in forefront of destroying Pakistan.Geographically it worked to dismemeber E.Pakistan,now it has done its groundwork to bring poverty,crimes,corruption through its rule and its policies including taking dictation from US.
    I think Every Punjabi should feel its responisbility because they are behind all atrocities towards minorities,and thus play in the hands of US who wants to reduce Pakistan to Punjab and Pujabis say"Jo ALlah to Manzoor".MK

    M.Khan, Pakistan - 04 August, 2008

    NWFP- the sacred part of Pakistan

    First of all I would question the real truth and national ID of Z.Orakzai AS MANY INDIANS HAVE GONE BERSERK ON THE MEDIA WITH DISGUISED PRETENDS OF THEIR REAL IDENTITIES.

    I would definitely mention my brotherly and sisterly love for my Pashtoon friends in Canada over the past 40 years.I have had very good Pashtoon friends from Peshawar, and they would really not forgive me if i did not pay daily visit to their home that lied half way in between my place of work at Shell Turbo refinery in Edmonton, Canada and my home.I very deeply understand Pashtoon sensitivities through my friendship with Pashtoon people.

    And, it is just silly to call me Punjabi mindset. I have Pakistani and muslim and humanity mind set and I have published my gas engineering papers in 2004 annual international conferences of America's and the world's very top gas engineering places like LRGCC(Lawrence reid Gas Conditioning Conference Oklahoma, 2004 annual international), 2004 GPA(Gas Processors Of America, annual International 2004), NACE annual International 2004, Kyoto Protocol, annual International 2004. US military took some information from these publications of mine and published them with my name in US military publications of 2005 that were related to gas process.Saudi Arabia and Iran invited me and Iran actually paid for my stay and trip there for sessions with first in command of NIGC and Pipe line head there.In KSA, the second in command at ARAMCO had flown in to Jeddah to meet me as guest of very prominent Saudi business man named dr Abdullah H.al Queresshi of King street Jeddah.

    It is perfectly wrong to call me a Punjabi pervert.For any body's information, many of the Pashtoon actresses videos and posters in Lollywoood or Peshawar were gifted to me by my Pashtoon friends in Canada.Even, the Pashtoon ladies brought for me a large poster of Sonia Khan actress heroin of the Pakistani film,"Direct Havaldar" from their visit to Peshawar from Canada.Now, some one will get mad if I dedicate two lines from America's all time best voice of Nat King Cole, who sang the very famous American song,"sweet Loraine"with praise of very sky blue eyes like those of Sonia Khan with honest gentel praise like:

    "SHE'S GOT PAIR OF EYES

    THAT ARE BRIGHTER THAN THE SUMMER SKIES."

    And we(My Pashtoon friends and me) used to tease Sonia Khan in her absentia.

    My Pashtoon friends went to all Pakistani functions and shows and they had even purchased large collection of songs by Noor jehan, Nat King cole, Khial Muhammad and Afghani Naghma.

    I cannot forget that for years, my Pashtoon friends played the song by Nat King Cole's softest voice that the world has ever known.It is taste for voice and one really has to listen to his very famous song from 1940 and still very much alive in America with lyrics that my Pashtoon friends and me believed were more applicable to Sonia khan than even the blue eyed twentieth century Hollywood goddess "Goreta Garbo".

    No body has to tell me the already known facts that Pathans are really the bravest yet highly romantacized people.One really has to hear Nat King Cole's sweetest, softest and velvet and satin smooth voice delivery of the lines as such:

    "She's got pair of eyes
    That are brighter than the summer skies."

    with Nat King Cole's voice and Sonia Khan's poster on the wall in Pashtoon house, even an angel's heart would melt away.

    Well I am stating facts and nature about the divine Pashtoon actress beauty from Pakistani film,"Direct Havaldar" and all these grand experiences were gifted to me by my very much loved and respected Pashtoon friends from NWFP.

    I spend half my time in NWFP ON EACH YEARLY VISIT TO PAKISTAN.SOME YEARS I WAS THERE THREE TIMES A YEAR. My gas engineering work is shaping up between north America and middle east so much so that I may be starting soon one or two months rotating trips there or four times or more every year over there.

    From what I have experienced with my Pashtoon friends in Canada over decades and from what I am finding about all time disguised pretended identity changes by the Indians,I would doubt if Z Orakzai is real Mr Orakzai.

    I would repeat again and again that I love NWFP--the sacred part of Pakistan.

    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 04 August, 2008

    Most of the terrorist activities are funded by KHAD, RAW and the CIA station in Kabul.

    Musharraf is a true Pakistani who has guts to say the truth. This is why Musharraf, COAS and DG ISI all blamed the CIA behind the recent activities in Pakistan.

    First of all, ANP need to act on its promise and rename NWFP to "Pakhtoon khuwa" which will bring some sense of accomplishment to their voters.

    Secondly MMA needs to pay attention to the Saudis and stop supporting terrorism.

    Pushtoons are true patriots of Pakistan and I am sure that the fear of any breakaway theory is raised by our corrupt politicians who can't function even when they win large mandates.

    Imran Siddiqui, Canada - 05 August, 2008

    Stick to the Subject

    Traditionally some participants don't stick to the subject. We readers encourage everyone one stick to the subject. Whatever could be the subjects, some (retired) time wasters have the habit of talking Geo-Political Importance, OIL/GAS / Coal, Beauties and Virgins etc, etc. These rats don't know anything else.

    If anyone expresses their opinion and if it's against to the mindset of these kinds of Rats, they have a habit of linking others to India for no reason. What else to expect from POORLY educated RATS.

    Jones, Canada - 05 August, 2008

    Don't agree to this theory

    I don't agree to this theory of NWFP breaking away. This is not realistic to believe Taleban a seperatist movement while they haven't claimed so. Instead they call themselves Tehreek Taleban "Pakistan" and their recent claim about Karachi does signify their target of occupying whole country. One basic agenda of Taleban and so called AlQaida movement is "no border in Muslim Land", but they want to achieve it through voilence.
    Calling it seperation movement is just looking at problem from wrong angle.

    Tahir, Pakistan - 07 August, 2008

    king

    send old and used car price listes which is used in pakistn peshawar.

    imran, Pakistan - 07 August, 2008

    Musharraf blindly obeyed Bush regime.

    Musharraf biggest blunder was to blindly follow the commands of Bush, who is complete idiot, to fight the "war on terror".

    Bush regime invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11 was the most stupid decision which Musharraf followed.

    NWFP can only be saved by changing the policy of aggression, bombing civilians to get US aid is not the solution.

    Government should introduce social and economic programs which will provide comfort after seven years of bombing and bring peace in NWFP.

    QB, Pakistan - 07 August, 2008

    NO DISINTEGRATION OF NWFP

    DEAR FRIENDS, DONT WORRY, MY RESEARCH SPEAKS THAT THERE SHALL BE NO DIS-INTENGRATION OF ANY PART OF PAKISTAN TILL 2025. THE SO CALLED TERRORISM IN NWFP AND BALUCHISTAN SHALL ONLY CAUSE DESTABILITY IN PAKISTAN WHICH WOULD BE CONTROLLED AND OVER COME IN 2009. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. SAY BYE BYE TO SO CALLED TALIBAN AND SO CALLED TALABINIZATION.
    THIS IS MY ADVISE TO THE NATION "BE UNITED". DONT BE AFRAID OF SO CALLED TERRORIST IN PAKISTAN. WE ARE PART OF INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND WE SHALL KEEP IT AS IT IS. PROIVDE HELP TO POOR PEOPLE AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR FOOD NEEDS. EVERY THING SHALL BE ALRIGHT.

    S. M. IQBAL ADVOCATE., Pakistan - 07 August, 2008

    Jones eats his own bones

    This Jones hindu from Casnada was shut up by me before.Ne carries Indian agenda against Paks and muslims with a disguised name.

    the cat Anwar has spotted u hindu rat again and will be metted out same treatment as before.

    Don't believe in hindu Jones
    Disguised,eats his own bones
    Before also, I did find
    He will stab you from behind

    He has barked against Paks
    Again Pashtoon was his talks
    Hippocrite,and bastard Jones
    He does eat his own bones

    I caught this hindu so before
    He will stab Paks like before
    Read his letters months ago
    and real enemy you will know

    Read Pak Tribune and find out
    Months ago,you won't doubt
    Jones poisoned against Paks
    Against NWEP was his talk

    Please read the Pak tribune
    And find this jones real tune
    He is Paks and Pashtoon's foe
    Read Pak tribune,u'll know

    Against NWFP, he talked bad
    Read he said to make u sad
    This is same disguised Jones
    Who does eat his own bones


    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 08 August, 2008

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