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09 April, 2007

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Head of Jamia Hafsa,(Madarasa In Islamabad) Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi has offered the women involved in the heinous business of prostitution, to abjure and he will arrange their marriages in noble families. He made this offer while announcing a Sharia’h court, which will try the persons involved in running prostitution dens in Islamabad. He has also given the government a time of one month to abolish all brothels in the limits of Islamabad or the Students of the Jamaia will take action against them.

The PPP, the PML(Q), and other left wing parties have condemned the “abduction” of a woman namely Auntie Shamim, along with two other women, who were allegedly running a brothel in Islamabad, by female students of Jamia Hafsa. The “abductees” were released after they confessed to running a brothel and announced to abjure in the presence of media. They, however, changed their statement later.

According to police, some 160 complaints had been lodged against auntie Shamim by the residents of sector G/6. However, no action was taken against her as she had been paying a huge amount to area police for running her brothel. Police in fact raided the brothel in 1998 and some arrests were made but after the instructions of some high-ups the matter was quashed and the brothel was in business again.

Sources say that scores of brothels are being run in Islamabad in connivance with the police, where hundreds of poor girls, several of them abducted, are being forced for prostitution.

Here are some question
1) What should area people do if a brothel is being run in their area?
2) Do you think police should take action against dens of prostitution and gambling if approached?
3) What do you think about Mualana Ghazi’s offer to the women involved in prostitution?
4) Does Ghazi’s action reflects that when there is no law in the country, such kind of incidents start happening?

Reader Comments:

Muslim must mind Business of Region -Urgent

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Continous effort failed to dismantle Pakistan Islam OIC 1971-91 UN
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Status and prestige. hence the Brothel in Islamabad and Lal sepahee sharia .Lal
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Why Sai why India sugar in bloodied area is mind boggling. Even more so is Jet
Mfg Sai Bata owned Lockheed and Can managed fossil fuel energy .


z_sunarto, Iceland - 18 April, 2007

for the sake of islam????

umm..just one question needs to be clarified here...how many islams are there in our country...a famous leader of a muslim country once said when asked of what pakistan's major problem was..." the majpr problem in pakistan is that there is more than one islam...clarify your priorities and then your problem is solved" guess he was right...

israr, Pakistan - 18 April, 2007

Mistake

Terrorism!
Islamic policing

Here are the answers :

1. If a brothel is being run in their area, the local people could inform the mullahs of the Lal Masjid to seige the premises or blow it up Taliban-style (remember Bamiyan buddhas).

2. The police should not take action against dens of prostitution in Islamabad because prostitution is the USP of Islamabad & it will drive away the much needed tourists.

3. Maulana Ghazi's offer to the prostitutes is hypocritical. Will he marry a prostitute himself or marry his sons to prostitutes?

4. Ghazi is the new self-appointed Taliban-style home minister of Pakistan. Jive-Jive Pakistan!

Md Kashif, Bahrain

Do you realize that what you're saying makes you sound like a terrorist. Who knows maybe you are. You have a violent and sick mindset and it's people like you who think violence is the answer to everything!
Imaan, Pakistan

I'm deeply sorry for that error, i wrote the wrong thing on the wrond page.

Imaan Hazir, Pakistan - 19 April, 2007

these jamia hafsa men are illiterate

what are they doing,,,they are extemists and should be dealt with a strong hand ...pakistan cannot progress until we donot do anything about these extremists..so lets join hands and flush out these talibanised people from our society

rehman, Pakistan - 19 April, 2007

The gentel pleasures of Pak pros.

Ironically,the prostitutes bring with them the financial fortunes and money laced tourists and not gun yielding terrorists.

Look at Dubai that has no oil and gas of its own like Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries around. But the face of Dubai is more prosperous than any other oil rich country of middle east.

The money men from all over middle east and from Europe and north America are flockin there for the only reasons as such:

"There are women(readyily available mistresses,call girls and prostitutes in Dubai to cater to the business men from all over the world in hotels,in clubs and bars of Dubai". Not many of the business people want to go to Jeddah or Ryad to set up business offices there.

And in Japan,businessmen happily go there as this is the only country in the world where young and pretty girls are made to pleasure to the rich that even food is offered on the naked female body to pick or pull the Japanese or any food atop the naked girl's belly or pull it from underneath her breasts with any pleasured fondling of the honour parts of the Japanese woman.One Canadian business owner rich friend of mine loved to do most of his business in Japan and on return tell his wife about how submissive the Japanese naked gieshas were while he ate on their naked body as food delish. Any thing extra like sex as desert was the happy option offered by the Japanese to him.

But,this does'nt mean that we could become like those who have created the sex taboos.And the Pakistani women won't go as far even in the Heera mandis of Lahore or other places.I have'nt ever visited Shahi mohalla of Lahore as it was forbidden for us.The few people, who frequented there were not looked upon with respect in society even forty years ago.

But, even in Canada, America or Dubai,they have designated these pleasures in specified areas like hotels and bars that have the banking machines as well to empty people's pockets and the bank accounts.

But again,the pros of Islamabad must be very gentel and soft by the standards of ill repute and vulgurness this trade carries with it elsewhere.You ever visit such areas in US and Canada, these women walk in front of you with plenty bare on bosom and belly,they swear dirty,they are rough in demanding money over and over and are prompt and fast to kick you out as soon as your half hour for 200 dollars is over. And the rough and cruel and even punishing pimps are following the whole act with no fear of police as they are the kings in the territory designated for them and the pros.

Dubai pros opt out to become kind of concubines and you can see the Saudis walking with one in each arm and throwing away their oil money.Dubai will be much less prosperous and will be like Jeddah with no one wanting to open business offices as Jeddah is shied away.The wealth of Jeddah and Ryad and even Abu Dhabi is being unloaded in pros infested Dubai,which now easily beats even New York, London,Paris or Toronto for pleasure.There are more pros,readily visible,available and even approaching any one who has money and taste.

That is why they say that money and loose women walk together hand in hand. Most of the rich man's money is really not deservingly earned as there is lots of injustices in the world when it comes to grabbing the wealth.

And the women and girls become pros out of poverty,out of cruelty, out of drugs use, out of incest or other abuse at home,out of war after the loss of male defenders of the family.

Woman is weak by nature and she can fall prey to any vice.

That is why the Arabs have concubines,the Iranians have Mutah and the Turks have legalized brothels so these helpless women can have some protection.Pretty Afghan refugee females are seeking protection in Peshawar, Quetta or Iranian cities as their men have had been killed in wars of all kinds.

All men are not angels.Only doctors, engineers, accountants and professr's like may control their practical advances of the devil inside.I don't think that the women of Pakistan in Islamabad or Lahore fire their advances on men.Those Pak pros are gentel and soft,who are not going to damage the man.

Then,you haver got big foreign population,who just need the woman and cannot live without her.Even the soldiers of the west are begging women's company in Iraq and Afghanistan and are ready to empty their pockets on any female.

Actually,prostitution puts strong checks on rapes and saves the non pros absolute majority by insulating the main stream girls from advances by the men,who cannot do without women.The crime rates will shoot up drastically if you cleanse the society completely of pros.

THIS IS THE OLDEST PROFESSION IN THE MAN'S HISTORY AND IT WILL APPEAR HIDDEN OR OPEN UNDER ALL RESTRICTIONS AND CONSTRAINTS.

THOSE PROS OF ISLAMABAD ARE DUCKS AND DOVES AND SWANS WHO WON'T HURT ANY BADY.

THEY ARE ONLY PLEASURING FOR MONEY WITH THOSE WHO HAVE IT.

THEY ARE THERE UNFORTUNATELY.



Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 20 April, 2007

Ghazi u r right

i think u r doing right thing.burn video shops , music channels and clean our country .we need people like u .we need danda not piyar


max, United Arab Emirates - 20 April, 2007

Join Politics!

If Jamia Hafsa leadership wants to eliminate brothels, they need to join politics and work for elimination of brothels. Kidnapping people and taking the law in their hands is definitely unreasonable. Follow the example of Jinnah and Imran Khan please!

Hassan Siddiqi, Pakistan - 21 April, 2007

morons

the mullahs are .An illitrate lot who wants to the misguided pakistanis into dark ages. Stop before its too late. These crazy nuts can only bring misery and chaos into their lives.run away from these crack pots and educate yourselves.The mullahs should all be lynched.

khalid, United Arab Emirates - 22 April, 2007

Brothels

If clerics cannot help these ladies to find out suitable matches for them then the N.G.Os and moderate must come. If they cannot help these ladies, they must keep silence. It is the duty of each one of us to remove evils from society and help these helpless ladies. I congratulte Maulana Ghazi for his best offer to the ladies.

Muhammad Riaz, Pakistan - 22 April, 2007

Saudi or Dubai ways.

I think both sides, for and against are trying to make sense.But, really Pakistan has to make chice as such:

1.They have to be like Saudi Arabia and punish every pros. They don't have to care about tourist's seeking pleasure in Pakistan. There are lots of countries around.
BUT, LIKE SAUDI ARABIA OR IRAN, THEY PAKISTAN HAS TO FACILITATE SAUDI CONCUBINAGE OR IRANIAN MUTAH.

2.Or, Pakistan has to go Turkish or Dubai ways and legalize it like in Turkey.
Or, they have to really liberalize it like in Dubai and make even Europe or America look pale. Even the Canadian or American air plane travellers if they happen to sit next to me and are coming from Dubai gladly talk of Dubai pleasures and pros.

DUBAI DEFINITELY BEATS AMERICA OR CANADA IN PROS PRODDED PLEASURES.

THIS IS WELL KNOWN FACTS THAT PROSTITUTES BRING WITH THEM FINANCIAL FORTUNES.BUT, THEY CAN TAKE THOSE FINANCIAL FORTUNES AWAY TO KEEP PAKISTAN PROS FREE.

OTHERWISE THE PROS WILL BE USHURING WEALTH LIKE MINT MACHINES.THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SHORTAGE OF MONEY WITH AND AROUND THE MONEY SUCKING PROS ALL PVER THE WORLD.

THE CHOICE IS FOR PAKS TO MAKE.sAUDIA AND IRANIANS ARE HAPPY THEIR WAYS AND MORE SO HAPPY ARE DUBAI PEOPLE, WHO HAVE ALL THE WEALTHY OF MIDDLE EAST, EVEN EUROPE AND AMERICA FLYING INTO DUBAI FOR PLEASURE REASONS.

AND THE PRICES OF PROS SERVICES GO SKY HIGH WHERE THE DEMAND AND PROPENSITY FOR PLEASURE IS BIG.

THAT IS HOW A POLISH MAN TOLD ME THAT HE GOES TO POLAND AND RUMANIA FOR PROS INSTEAD OF BURNING HIS MONEY IN CANADA.

HE SAYS THAT A HAGGARD LOOKING AND WORN OUT PROS CAN COST 200 DOLLARS FOR HALF OR MAY BE ONE HOUR. THE PRICE OF A MUCH PRETTIER, YOUNGER AND FRESHER PROS IN POLAND IS ONLY 20 DOLLARS AND THAT COULD BE EVEN FOR ALL NIGHT.

HE SAVES MONEY IN CANADA TO GET TWEENTY OR THIRTY OR FORTY TIMES HIS MONEY WORTH FROM THE PROS OF RUMANIA OR POLAND OR OTHER EAST EUROPEANS.

Saudis can spend 200-400 dollars a night in Dubai on a pros. They can go to Bahrain, which is as much shining for pleasure. But, in America or Canada, Saudis have lost all the glamour they used to have 10-20-30 years ago.Now, it can be even dangerous ror them in US or Canada.

But, it seems that the Saudis are getting their money's worth and more in Dubai compared to what they would be getting in the pleasure world of north America.

And Dubai is only 1-2 hours away for Saudis.And they have Russians and the spoiled muslim girls of central Asia. The Saudis have even more variegated variety of brown Hindus, Philipinos and Thais and also some Europeans taking up the trade for money reasons.

Dubai and Bahrain are shining more with prostitutes, who definitely bring financial fortunes wherever they go with their trades. They even trail poor doctors, engineers and chartered accountants, who all have to struggle to make money.

But, for pros, the money comes wherever they go.For very moralistic societies and truly Islamic cultures, the pros may not shine or even exist at all like in Saudi Arabia.

But, Saudis can have the pleasuring women through concubines, where Iranians procure them through Mutah.


Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 22 April, 2007

STOP EVIL and encourage good

The most amazing thing is "Although Pakistan claims itself as ISLAMIC REPUBLIC and above 95% are Muslims, why there is such a protest against establishment of Islamic Shariah??? The order of Allah. Do they not fear Allah?"

Surely prostitution is not the occupation which any decent and modest woman would ever like to do.It is against the nature of woman. There are lot of socio-ecenomic factors that forces woman to acquire such evil ways.

I personally am willing to offer my husband for halal polygamy approach to protect woman from evil of prostitution and come under pure roof of nikah (in the condition that she sincerely repents and follow orders of Allah).

Glad tidings to those who follow righteous guidance and strive hard to forbid evil in the society!!! Wa salam

Ayesha, Hungary - 22 April, 2007

The Problem is there and Real

At the outset, I would just like to add that "Madames" in Isb is a phenomenon that is quite real. I can say that some confidence because of first-hand knowledge. We were a couple of guys working in Constitution Avenue after we graduated from engineering college. I learned later on that our land lady (who was a gyneacologist btw.) in G-3 (If I recall correctly) was involved in supplying girls to ppl. It was a big house, and she had rented us a portion of it. Now when I look back, I'm almost certain that her clients were almost surely the rich snobs in Islamabad. Also, given her occupation, I strongly suspect that she used black-mailing as a lethal device against women. If you think about it, its very simple to blackmail women in our "Islamic" society. e.g., simply track college going girls who are having sleeping around, get incontrovertible evidence and bingo... you're in business. A second scenario would be to track extra-maritial affairs. As things stand out, no girl, well almost all women with the exception of few, would like their families to find out about their sexual lives (if any), no matter how modern they appear to be (After all, they DO wanna get married respectfully dont they?).

If anybody can recall the fairly recent "internet caffe" CD's of Pakistani women "doing it" inside the booths... well that was almost certainly blackmail.

So, to wrap it all up: Yes poverty is definitely a cause. But there are other causes as well, which must be looked into.

Last but not least: this is no way to go about such a sensitive issue. If they have evidence then there many excellent and far more effective options available to them. It seems they just would like to milk the situation for political gains. And also, the thousands of women who are there? Are they married? what about their families?

However, the prostituion/blackmail problem is there. And this is just Islamabad. God knows what goes on around in the rest of our big (and small?) cities.

Hamood Khan, Pakistan - 22 April, 2007

listen

i think musarraf have washed our brains through cable system and now v want to be like western where there is no value for a girl as i m in uk and i can see whts going on here i m shocked to hear saira doent want to be real muslim and blaming real muslims terroist its shameful
i think u dont want to go to paradise or maybe u r muslim by name ....

sonia jamal, United Arab Emirates - 23 April, 2007

what the hell is this.....

these two brothers are surely terrorists. they were involved in terrorism before and police have caught these brothers but they released them. damn yaar. these brothers have many illegal space with them but when government came to know that they did another thing to shift government's attention. they brainwash young people especially girls and give them money. they have so many girls with them because they knew that government usually don't take harsh action against women. that's y. one more thing that they are imposing their own law according to that law women have to wear veil so they are called muslims if u don't wear veil u r not islamic i think they forgot that HAZRAT aiysa didn't wear veil she was a business women islam never said to wear veil forceably it depends on u. these guys are making laws only for women as if women are the cause of every sin. they didn't make any law for themselves too. these kinds of bloody people so-called mullahs gang-rape a girl is this islamic. does islam give a right to man to rape any woman.i hope musharaff will teach them a lesson and kill every one of them so that no one will leave to destroy pakistan and humiliate islam. there should not be any deal. government should take immediate action and throw a bomb over them. this is their punishment. they insulted islam and pakistan as well. they gave pakistan a nagative image. we people are known for our beauty and hospitability but these kind of people are destroying us. they don't worth living.

saira, Pakistan - 23 April, 2007

First cleanup mosques from Gay Mullahs, then worry about Madams

Homosexuals in Madrassahs have no right to point fingers on anyone else. Mullah talk aobut prostitution is like pot calling the kettle black. These creatures from the medieval era have no shame in employing terror to achieve their nefarious objectives. Any sensible government would have burned down the source of terror also known as madrassahs.

Most madrassahs are doing a great service to the poor kids. However a few of them have become cancerous and they must be given chemical and radiation therapy.

The central organization of Madrassahs (Wafaq ulMadaris) have already canceled the license for the lal-Mullahs. It is time to use the law of the land to clean up this mess. If we don't take a swift action, Mullah-menace will continue growing and ultimately destroy the fabric of our society.


Dr. Qazi, United Kingdom - 24 April, 2007

Islamisation of Islamabad

The clerics of Lal Masjid and the girl students and staff of Jamia Hafsa are gradually increasing their demands with the each passing day. Starting from a simple demand to restore of a partly demolished mosque built on an encroached CDA land, they have in a matter of weeks escalated their demands to a near ultimatum of ‘now or never’ imposition of the Shariat in Pakistan. The hounds smelt the blood the moment an insipid minister laid ceremoniously the first brick to restore a mosque. Ever since they are digging their teeth deeper and deeper. The Hafsa baton wielding burqa clad girls raided a house and took a few women and an infant in their illegal custody. Lal Masjid masked men had the audacity to hold a few police officials and their van as hostages till their workers were released, which were. They warned the video shop owner to close their business and in the process raided a few shops and burnt cassettes valuing over Rs.15 lacs in a bonfire. Women have been warned not to drive and reportedly the registration numbers of the vehicles driven by them are being noted by the moral police force of Lal Masjid. A Shariat Court of 10 Muftis has also been instituted to try out the cases violating Shariat.

This all is being done ostensibly and shrewdly in the name of Islam and Shariat, which no Muslim can afford to oppose for fears of grave reprisals. Next, they take up the plank of rooting out ‘fuhashi’ and immorality from the society which again no one in his/her proper senses can disagree to Now prostitution is a two way traffic. In it both genders – male as well as female – are involved and cannot be take place without the participation of both. However, for eliminating it why target the women only? Why not watch and ward the suspected houses and warn the ‘visitors’ to stop their immoral visitations? Make a list of those frequenting such hideouts, take their pictures entering and leaving the den and make it public for all to know and ridicule them. The alleged brothel houses will automatically vanish because of starvation.

Restraining 'immorality' in the society makes sense. And, for that the religious elements (and why not all others also?) should educate the society by word of mouth and literature - not by physical acts and threats by the clerks and clergy. Emphasis should be laid on 'Ikhlaqiat' (character building) rather than on an overdose of religiosity and that too of a specific school of thought only.

Again, the limits for such 'immorality' must be clearly defined, for, these can be stretched to the 'shaving of the beard' and 'driving of a car by a female’, depending upon the whims of our so called Khateebs, Ulema and Mushaikh. A clear cut demarcation between healthy entertainment and 'fuhashi' must be made. Unfortunately, the present trend of the mullah is just to target the women and any thing allowing them even a remote breath of fresh air - education, sports, employment, medical treatment by male specialists etc. is straight away declared immoral by the so called muftis. That is depriving more than half the population of its due share in the nation building activities. Who said that," give me the educated mothers and I will give you a good nation"? I think Napoleon did.

Lastly, it is not for the government only not to allow a state within a state but it is the responsibility and duty of all its right thinking citizens also to thwart such fissiparous designs of all those who were from the day one opposed to the creation of a democratic, modern and forward looking Pakistan, and who are now bent upon achieving their nefarious end ironically in the name of Islamisation of Islamabad and Pakistan.

Col. Riaz Jafri, Pakistan - 24 April, 2007

Islamists better bring yourself to world level

When you you line up for salat.First thing you are told to close the Gap (not to let devil
Get in between ).Image of Islamists can improve instantly.Most people aim to buy millions of rupees worth Of car home computer TV.Islamist should buy 9-5 trouser to bring their
Image to world standard.

All Islamists must improve standard and image to bring it to the level of European
Japanese Korean European.Islamists can be wearing dark trouser dark sport zipper jacket
9-5 Monday to Friday . Madrassah style Alazhar Univ belong to World’s oldest existing University since 930 AD or so.Alazhar giving upto PhD even in engineering .

Most adult Islamists from Bangladesh Pakistan have degree diploma . I myself direct from Madrassah went to high school and passed BSc at 19 (from desi univ) to join degree course in eng at London Univ at 20 .

Islam promotes Justice Peace Beauty progress.Most Masjid have been built with style with ceramic tiles little pond or wudhu fountain and garden to give enhanced image. These Lal masjid Phenomenon seem recent.They must improve Islamist image to world standard. Lal hafsa costume or Dhaka Lungi seminar must be brought to world standard level.


benz m Ispahani, India - 24 April, 2007

this extremism needs to stop

extremist actions by jamia hafsa and jamia fareedia are unacceptable, we donot need these maulvees to come and tell us about the true essence of Islam. Alhamdullillah we are practicing Muslims. their narrow version of a Talibanised Islam is not acceptable to the society. With what i have seen in the past one moth coming out of the lal masjid are rules and regulations for women and bad women only. Is their islam only resistricted to imposing their version of shariah on women, what about the men. Pakistan is the land of the Pakistanis and not of these maulvees if they want to preach Islam they might as well go to Saudi Arabia or some other land. We want to be a modern Islamic country whereby we want to compete with the world at equal level and to practice the religion of the Holy prophet., there is no jabr in religion. the dandas and the burqas are not convincing. if these extremists are so bothered about the socuiety they should contribute towards education and social uplift of the people, provide them with health facilities and make efforts to make the country a welfare state instead of an anarchic one. Poverty is the biggest evil of all societies.There is also the need to learn from Islamic scholars like Ahmed Dedaat and Fatima Mernissi. the prophet was the most lenient man and never believed in using force. the mesaq-e-Medina is the biggest example of all. read surat al kafiroon, to you is your religion and to me is mine. then who are these people to impose. Plus there is a need to identify the crimes within the madrassahs too. I agree the government needs to provide a fair judicial system but at the same time, the clerics and extremists of the lal masjid are not eligible to give rulings int he qazi courts, these are not qualified individuals rather part of the land mafia group who were afraid that their madrassah and mosque would be torn down as its built on illegal land.

nadya, Pakistan - 24 April, 2007

r we muslim?

mullahs gave one month time to the owners of video shops and other pros to close there business .i think this is good this will help in reducing crimes of same kind as these thing promote adultry and most of pakis stays at home and they watch films and they take things serious and want to do same thing they see on films and then become part of bad society
anyways is there anyone who could tell me
how many days left when they gonna take action against pros etc...

romeo, United Arab Emirates - 24 April, 2007

urdunews

where i get theurdu news

javed, Pakistan - 25 April, 2007

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