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09 April, 2007

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Head of Jamia Hafsa,(Madarasa In Islamabad) Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi has offered the women involved in the heinous business of prostitution, to abjure and he will arrange their marriages in noble families. He made this offer while announcing a Sharia’h court, which will try the persons involved in running prostitution dens in Islamabad. He has also given the government a time of one month to abolish all brothels in the limits of Islamabad or the Students of the Jamaia will take action against them.

The PPP, the PML(Q), and other left wing parties have condemned the “abduction” of a woman namely Auntie Shamim, along with two other women, who were allegedly running a brothel in Islamabad, by female students of Jamia Hafsa. The “abductees” were released after they confessed to running a brothel and announced to abjure in the presence of media. They, however, changed their statement later.

According to police, some 160 complaints had been lodged against auntie Shamim by the residents of sector G/6. However, no action was taken against her as she had been paying a huge amount to area police for running her brothel. Police in fact raided the brothel in 1998 and some arrests were made but after the instructions of some high-ups the matter was quashed and the brothel was in business again.

Sources say that scores of brothels are being run in Islamabad in connivance with the police, where hundreds of poor girls, several of them abducted, are being forced for prostitution.

Here are some question
1) What should area people do if a brothel is being run in their area?
2) Do you think police should take action against dens of prostitution and gambling if approached?
3) What do you think about Mualana Ghazi’s offer to the women involved in prostitution?
4) Does Ghazi’s action reflects that when there is no law in the country, such kind of incidents start happening?

Reader Comments:

Just do not call them brothels

CALL THEM HOMES OF MUTAH LOVE AND CALL THEM HOMES FOR CONCUBINE LOVE.

WE CAN BE LIKE OUR ARABS AND IRANIAN BROTHERS AND GIVE THOSE LOVERLY THINGS OF ISLAMABAD AN AMICABLE PLACE IN OUR HEARTS ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO NEED MATING BETWEEN THE TWO SEXES.

DON'T CALL THOSE MEN JOHNSES.CALL THEM MEN WANTING SPARE TEMPORARY MARRIAGE WITH CERTIFICATE AND APPROVAL BY THE RELIGIOUS AUTHORITIES OR WITNESSES OR WHO EVER.AS A MATTER OF FACT RELIGIOUS BOOK APPROVES THAT ALL ALONG.

ALL THIS GOES WITH HUMAN NEED WITH PROPENSITY OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.OR MOST APPROPRIATELY CALL IT THE WANT AND THE WILLINGNESS TO SATIATE THE WANT.

AND THE MEN BEHAVE AS LOVING MEN AND NOT AS HORNY STUDS.AND TREAT THOSE LOVERLY TINGS NICELY, KINDLY,GENTLY AND PASSIONATELY.

MEN DO NOT APPROACH THEM WITH MASTERLY COMMAND BUT SUBMIT YOURSELVES AS HUMBLE SEEKERS.JUST MAKE IT LOVE LADEN AND NOT BREAK INTO SEX.

IT CAN BE TWO WAY STREET WITH MUTAH AND CONCUBINAGE TAG APPROVED AND CERTIFIED BY THE RELIGIOUS OR ANY APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES.MEN WITH MONEY TO BURN CAN APPROACH THOSE LOVELY THINGS WHO ARE THERE FOR MONEY TO EARN.

YOU CAN MAKE IT A PLEASURE BETWEEN TWO HEARTS DONE BY MUTAH OR CONCUBINAGE.IT TAKES NOT MUCH EFFORT TO MAKE IT HALAL IF CERTIFIED AS THE MODES APPROVED BY SUNI OR SHIA WAYS.

THIS IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO SHARE MONEY WITH HONEY.BUT KEEP IT KIND TO MAKE IT DELIGHT.BUT DO IT HUMBLE WAYS SO THAT SHE IS HAPPY AND YOU ARE WITH SMILES AS WELL.IN THE WEST,IT CAN END UP INTO LEGAL SCAMS TO MAKE THE MAN POOR.BUT MUTAH AND CONCUBINAGE SETS LIMIT ON THE MONEY YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND AS THE CONTRACT SAYS. THERE CAN BE SOME VOLUNTARY BONUS ADDED TO MAKE THE UNION OF TWO HEARTS EVEN SWEETER.PEOPLE WITH MONEY MUST NOT FORGET THAT ALLAH IS ALLWAYS THERE TO PROTECT THE WEEK.SO,LET IT BE LIKE SHE WISHES.SHE WILL BE DEFINITELY KIND HEARTED. JUST DO AND ACT WITH PASSION AND COMPASSION AND LET HER RECIPROCATE ACCORDINGLY.

IRANIANS ARE CREATING MUTAH HOUSES WHERE THERE WILL BE HONOURABLE UNION OF HEARTS. SAUDIS ARE ALREADY PICKING THEIR CONCUBINAGE FROM PRETTY SYRIAN GIRLS AS SAUDIS LOVE SYRIAN GIRLS.
SAUDIS SHOW THEIR MONEY AND THE SYRIAN BEAUTIES SHOW THEIR RECEPTIVE OPEN HEARTS.
SHARE YOUR SPARE MONEY WITH THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE IT AND ARE SEEKING IT THROUGH THEIR BEAUTY AND WILLINGNESS TO OFFER THEIR LOVELINESS IN RETURN.

IF I HAVE SPARE MONEY IN MY POCKET AND THERE IS SOME WILLING BEAUTY WANTS TO SHARE,THE DEAL MUST BE STRUCK ON MUTAH OR CONCUBINAGE LINES.I WILL MAKE VERY NICE AND KIND MOVES WHICH ONLY SHE ACCEPTS. I WOUD'NT FORCE ANY THING STUD WISE. IT WILL BE DOING BUD WISE.

I KNEW A VERY PRETTY PERSIANA GIRL NAMED SHAHRZADI, WHO WAS DOING AMICABLE MUTAHS IN LEBANON AND THAT TOO IN THE SUNI BELT OF BEKA VALLEY.OH, SHAHARZADI AND HER SISTER WERE GORGEOUS LOOKING PERSIAN BEAUTIES AND THEY WERE DOING DOZENS OF MUTAHS WITH SUNIS.THE TWO VERY PRETTY GIRLS WERE EVEN DRIVING PIDGEOT CAR AND WAS A HEART DELIGHTING SHIA IRANIAN GIFT TO SUNI LEBANESE OF BEKA VALLEY.

I WOULD'NT MIND MAKING THEM PRETTY BUTTERFLIES OF ISLAMABAD AS MUTAH OR CONCUBINAGE PARTNER.WHO DOES'NT WANT TO GIVE AWAY DIRTY MONEY FOR THE MOST WANTED NEED OF A MAN AND THAT IS A GIRL OR WOMAN BEAUTY.

MEN DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE IT HARD ON THE DELICATE BEAUTIES NOR THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT HARD ON THEIR ALREADY STRESSED SOUL.

JUST DO NOT FORGET THAT A WILLING, I SAY A WILLING BEAUTY CAN BE THE BEST AND MOST USEFUL STRESS RELIEF FOR MAN.WHAT IS MONEY?. IT IS THE DIRTY ROOT CAUSE OF ALL EVILS THAT HAS TO COME AND GO.I HAVE NEVER FELT SAD ON HOW AND WHY I LOST MONEY IN CANADA THREE BIG TIMES.
BUT, LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IN RETURN.CAN YOU IMAGINE HER APPPLE FACE, HER LIPS OF ROSE,HER AQUILINE DEER LIKE EYES, HER HEART THROBBING SMILES, HER CHISLED LOOKS, HER TOUCH OF HER BEAUTY ON YOUR HEART AND MOST IMPORTANT HER WILLINGNESS TO SHARE IT ALL WITH YOU FOR FEW LEAVES OF THE MONEY BILLS.THIS MONEY IS REALLY WORTHLESS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU GET IN RETURN.JUST THANK HER FOR HER KIND HEARTEDNESS AND DO NOT FEEL SORRY TO UNLOAD SOME OF THAT DIRTY MONEY ON HER SMILES AND HER GORGEOUSNESS.

I THINK MANY WRITERS IN THIS DEBATE ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH STRESS ON THEM FOR A TRIFLE THING.

LET'S CALL THOSE BEAUTIES AS HOORIES AND NOT WHAT THEY ARE DEBATED HERE.

A MUTAH OR CONCUBINE TAG ON EACH OF THE BEAUTY WILL MAKE HER HALAL FOR THE SEEKING HEARTS.

ELSE,LOOK AT WHAT THE CENTRAL ASIANS,THE PATHANS AND THE KASHMIRIS ARE DOING AS SUBSTITUTE FOR THE FEMALE BEAUTY. THEY ARE PLEASURING ON BACHA NAGHMA DANCES OF BEAUTIFUL BOYS,WHOM THEY DRESS UP AND MAKE UP TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE PRETTY GIRLS.

NO WONDER, TWO GORGEOUSLY LOOKING PRETTY AFGHAN GIRLS TOLD ME THAT THE PATHANS WILL NOT TAKE INTEREST IN GIRLS NO MATTER HOW PRETTY THE GIRLS MAY BE. THEY WILL GO AFTER BACHA NAGMA OR BEAUTIFUL BOYS DRESSED, MADE UP AND DANCING LIKE PRETTY GIRLS.

IT IS BETTER TO HAVE MUTAH AND CONCUBINAGE HOUSES INSTEAD OF SEEING WHAT YOU CALL BROTHELS.

LET MONEY MATE BEAUTY AS BEST TRADE.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 05 May, 2007

Protected by high-ups!

It is needless to say, but all of us know these brothels are actually 'protected' by the filthy rich, high ranking officials, MNA's and even ministers. The government has always known that such brothels operate openly, catering to the rich and powerful.

I think if the government could not take any action, then as a nation, it is our responsibility to take action, to show the government what nation power is.

The happenings mentioned above should have served as an eye-opener for the government that to protect their 'writ' they ought to take action on time, before others do.

Saleem, Pakistan - 06 May, 2007

The root causes of prostitution

It would be erroneous to think that prostitution does not exist in Islamic theocracies like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Converting our country into a theocracy will only deter our progress and will not improve anything else. These women are prostitutes because (1) there is growing poverty in the country (2) Rule of law needs to be strengthened. (3) Men go to prostitutes because a woman for them is an alien object in this segregated and highly paternalistic society of ours. Jamia Hafza or even a khalifa can not change these deeply entrenched problems. Aunty Shamims will continue to exist. May get more expensive if the Khalifa arrives.

Ain, Pakistan - 07 May, 2007

Janet Methew, United States of America

Oh yeah! Human Rights Issue, well in that case I think we should first send Ansar Burni to the US of A since the prostitution epidemic is more prevalent there in many forms.
But, yes this social issue which has been given a religious look and now being considered a "human relations" issue or should I say so-called issue as well in my humble opinion resembles the US cult of Branch Davidians who were headed by the famous David Koresh at Waco, Texas and were handled in the most democratic manner by the US Authorities resolving the issue once and forever.

Mazdoor & Kissan, Pakistan - 07 May, 2007

Congratulations to PakTribune

Thus far this has been the longest thread of comments I found on PakTribune. However, I am ashamed to see the cross-section of people who appear to have Muslim aliases or nicknames and comment in the manner they do on this particular topic.
It is astonishing to see how many people find this topic so very interesting while some "appear" to be ladies, Allah SWT only knows if they are or just pretending, and their styles of discussing on this matter.
I literally feel ashamed to call myself a muslim when I see how some of those who appear to be muslims have taken a position to comment on this very serious matter in a humiliating manner.
May Allah SWT guide us all to the right path, the path of those who are blessed by HIM, ameen.
May Allah SWT keep us away from filthy lifestyles be it verbal or practical, ameen.
May Allah SWT protect our youth from such filth and make them pious and prompt, ameen.
Astaghfirullah rabbi min kul-e-zambin, wa'atoob'o ilayhe.

Mazdoor & Kissan, Pakistan - 07 May, 2007

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syed badrul mubeen, Hungary - 07 May, 2007

We should work toward a just society & eradicate such vices by setting an example.

Omar Akbar, United Kingdom - 07 May, 2007

Find roots first

It is good to close brothels, but before that find out why these women become prostitutes or why they are forced to this. You can arrange the marriages of a hundred prostitutes, but do you think prostitution will end with this? First of all find what the main reasons are and then you can stop it if you really want.

Sekandar Rafi, Pakistan - 07 May, 2007

Ghazi's offer

the offer given by maulana is a noble one.Yes there is no law in the country..I dont want my daughter to become a prostitute nor my childeren and not even there grand childeren.Police in Pakistan is not doing there job when people dont do there job any one who has a little power will do his way in case of Laal masjid very bold steps taken.

Saad, Pakistan - 08 May, 2007

Mullah sells religion & Pros sell body: Who is worse?

Mullah sells religion & Pros sell body: Who is worse?
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Mullahs make money by selling our religion. They get money from the highest bidder. Look at the murders in the name of religion. Look at the Mullah inspired anarchy in Wazirastan. When Arabs paid more money, Mullahs gave fatwas in their favor. Then USA or Pak government became the highest bidder, so some of the Mullahs switched.

Look at the atrocities between Shias and Sunnis from Parachinar to DI Khan, to Karachi. Look at how many Mullahs drive big cars or live in big homes. Just ask them the source of their wealth.

It will be the Pakistani-people who decide if selling religion is worse for our society or selling one's body.

A just society should take care of their women, so they don't have to sell their bodies. And a just society should keep their Mullahs under strict control, so they don’t sell the religion.

Just like we are trying to control the prostitution, we must uphold true justice. All corrupt Mullahs who live beyond their means should be punished as well.

A bigger punishment should be given to those Mullahs who not only sell Islam, but also bring AK-47 in the holy and sacred areas such as mosques.

Our mosques should be the symbols of ultimate purity, cleanliness, and righteousness. They instead have been turned into the dens of suicide bombers and terrorists. So unfortunate to see that the Mullahs have pimped even the holiest of holy places.


Dr. Qazi (DrShaheenIqbalQazi@yahoo.com), United Kingdom - 09 May, 2007

The Gift that Keeps Giving

Yes, by all means, secure a prostitute and receive the gift that keeps giving, and giving: chlamydia, syphilis or any number of sexually transmitted diseases which can then be passed on to the wife at home.

Tammy Swofford, R.N. BSN

tammy swofford, United Kingdom - 09 May, 2007

What are the molvies upto?

Its astonishing to see news clips of burqa donning bamboo bearing women on the roof of that Lal Masjid/The Hafsa institution.
It goes to show how dominated those poor ladies are by the brainwashing of these molvies.
The molvies who charge to help slaughter an animal but wont teach another person how to do it themselves.
The molvies who lick their fingers after gulping down the halwa sent by neighbors for all the people.
I can go on forever describing the basic attributes of the "clergy" which is very much forbidden by the faith however the clergies dont tell anyone that they need to be educated enough with the teachings of faith so they are not dependant on another to tell them how and what to do.
It is the responsibility of each individual to appropriately learn all the basics of faith and not to look for a molvi to give them a ruling on every little matter.
If each individual in their ownselves is properly learned the molvies will go out of business pronto. However, it is the very weakness of our society among others that we dont learn ourselves and depend on a figure like ourselves to tell us what and what not, while every human is prejudiced in one way or another and so are the molvies, as long as there will be people depending on the molvies you are not going to get anywhere.

Mazdoor & Kissan, Pakistan - 10 May, 2007

Questions and suggested responses

1) What should area people do if a brothel is being run in their area?
RESPONSE: They should have a meeting of the area community & notify the people in business to move out of the area in a given period of time, if that does not occur the community should seek authority's assistance in dismantling.
2) Do you think police should take action against dens of prostitution and gambling if approached?
RESPONSE: If police is corrupted to the extent we all know, then what would the police do? They may retaliate on outspoken people of the community by fabricating matters against them. If police action is required it should be directed by higher authorities. While people should refrain from speculating at places & people without any concrete evidence that what they suspect to be happening is what it is and not just because something doesnt fit the level of thought of a given individual or individuals as they see it.
3) What do you think about Mualana Ghazi’s offer to the women involved in prostitution?
In all sincerity it has the appearance of the best possible scenario only if it can be practically implemented and not just a bunch of politically charged up rheotoricf, while he should also remember that Chastity is a prime requirement when it comes to proposing or match making. May Allah SWT cause some good at Dr. Ghazi's hands but without any violence.
4) Does Ghazi’s action reflects that when there is no law in the country, such kind of incidents start happening?
Where this came from and who said that there is no law, there are sets of laws to deal with such situations and issues but they may not be enforced and are collecin dust because the law enforcement authorities are too busy making good of every evil situation that benefits them personally. Not meaning to say that everyone in the law enforcement is corrupt but those who are not, not only their hands but also their feet are tied by the corrupt ones.

Matloob, Pakistan - 10 May, 2007

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

I would like to ask one simple question based on islamic principles,
1) A muslim is directed to refrain from speculating in any matter.
2) Islamic law requires that there are at least two legitimate witnesses who have witnessed an act of you know what we are discussing.
Only because something doesnt fit the standards of the eyes witnessing something doesnt allow one to go to the extremes of palcing such blames on anyone.
Does Dr. Ghazi and his associates campaigning on this issue have any first hand knowledge of such existence? OR it is only being speculated because someone was seen in a dress that does not match the approval levels of Dr. Ghazi &/or his associates?
Everyone who takes it upon themselves to point out presence of such evil in the society remains accountable to Allah SWT in the heareafter


Qalandar, Pakistan - 10 May, 2007

Janet Methew, United States of America

Yes I do agree with you about this being a social issue and yes Ansar Burney is one of the most regardful person to be involved in this area. However I think there is a lot more to this issue and sotry than we see or know or is brought out. Not meaning to pin point the people who brought this one instance in public since I dont know them or their intentions but as a general rule there are plenty of such people who from time to time make an effort to gain exposure by amplifying on such issues and they are politically charged.

Mazdoor & Kissan, Pakistan - 10 May, 2007

Nice job

I m happy to see a site containing vital issues. i ll wait ur reply.
It really owesam.


ali

ali, Pakistan - 11 May, 2007

Prostitution is better than begging or self killing or family wife children killing for poverty

I hate those who express disgust for brothel running. in these days, it is very difficult for 90% pakistani to provide proper food for the wife and children. is not t better to please one customer and sacrifice one person cunt or buttock for the feeding of all family members including children. the people have started suciding or killing their innocent children for being unable to get two time food for the members of the family. Please do not burn your conscience if any female of your family work outside and pass a luxurous life herself and properly feed and cloth the other members and carry out proper medical treatment of their parents. i think they are brave people. they should be encouraged. bye and take care

true_citizen, Pakistan - 27 May, 2007

why Mullahs emphasis on femal related matters.

Mullahs always raise questions over female related matters.I never saw or heard that these reliogiouse clerics ever raised their voices over murders, thefting, looting and corruption etc.It seems that these mullahs has been sent by god on earth just for keeping an eye on womens activity .Many mullahs are involving in have sex pleasure with their minor male students.They do these practactices even in their madrassas.
I admitt that prostitution is haram in our religion.I request dr ghazi that instead of making caos & unrest in country he should co-operate with govt in finding out solutions to solve this matter peace fuly .Thanks

waqas, Pakistan - 06 June, 2007

why Mullahs emphasis on femal related matters.

Mullahs always raise questions over female related matters.I never saw or heard that these reliogiouse clerics ever raised their voices over murders, thefting, looting and corruption etc.It seems that these mullahs has been sent by god on earth just for keeping an eye on womens activity .Many mullahs are involving in have sex pleasure with their minor male students.They do these practactices even in their madrassas.
I admitt that prostitution is haram in our religion.I request dr ghazi that instead of making caos & unrest in country he should co-operate with govt in finding out solutions to solve this matter peace fuly .Thanks

waqas, Pakistan - 06 June, 2007

Mullas vs Women

Salaam,

Why is that Mullahs always raise their voice about unethical women? ( not that I am in favor of prostitution) but the question is, who goes to these women? Huddod ordinance was a slap in the name of Islam for punishment of adulty, Surah Baqarah (chapter 2) details the requirement of the witness to adultry not the guess. I recommend Mohammad Asad's or Mohsin Khan's English translation (Urdu ones are usually translated by same Mullahs who when talk about paradise translate zawj or aswaaj as Wife and Wives instead of Spouse. as in Yasin, chapter 36)and according to what they perceive.

I hear women after women being immoral, but who do they commit immoral acts with? Where are those men? Why do we not see any men getting punished?

I am disappointed to see that our people have 2 extremes, one who are clueless about the teachings of Islam and the other who think that they knowit all and a women should be house arrest. She needs permission of a "MAN" to breathe.

The responsibitly of the Govt is to provide the decent environment. But how can they? Have you walked down a bazaar? How many "MEN" will try to touch a woman's or a girl's body?
Govt can't be policing these people, it is the knowledge from the Quran and Sunnah that will give people Allah counciousness and love that will keep them from abusing these poor women.

Having said that, the Quran and Sunnah don't mean the interpretation of the same "MEN" who abuse women. I guess it is time that Pakistanis use the internet in some useful way and research how women were treated in the time of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Were they abuse and locked up? or totally draped so they couldn't breathe?

The solution to eradicate prostitution may lie in the moral behavior of men. They need to "lower their gaze" treat every woman as they would like to treat their own sisters, mothers and daughters. Now I don't mean that all men are indicent, I only wish that there were more of the ones who don't go to these women and the ones who don't sit on their ...... and want to lock up women because they have screwd up ideas about proper conduct in Islam.

Thanks

Rasool, United Kingdom - 10 July, 2007

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