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09 April, 2007

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Head of Jamia Hafsa,(Madarasa In Islamabad) Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi has offered the women involved in the heinous business of prostitution, to abjure and he will arrange their marriages in noble families. He made this offer while announcing a Sharia’h court, which will try the persons involved in running prostitution dens in Islamabad. He has also given the government a time of one month to abolish all brothels in the limits of Islamabad or the Students of the Jamaia will take action against them.

The PPP, the PML(Q), and other left wing parties have condemned the “abduction” of a woman namely Auntie Shamim, along with two other women, who were allegedly running a brothel in Islamabad, by female students of Jamia Hafsa. The “abductees” were released after they confessed to running a brothel and announced to abjure in the presence of media. They, however, changed their statement later.

According to police, some 160 complaints had been lodged against auntie Shamim by the residents of sector G/6. However, no action was taken against her as she had been paying a huge amount to area police for running her brothel. Police in fact raided the brothel in 1998 and some arrests were made but after the instructions of some high-ups the matter was quashed and the brothel was in business again.

Sources say that scores of brothels are being run in Islamabad in connivance with the police, where hundreds of poor girls, several of them abducted, are being forced for prostitution.

Here are some question
1) What should area people do if a brothel is being run in their area?
2) Do you think police should take action against dens of prostitution and gambling if approached?
3) What do you think about Mualana Ghazi’s offer to the women involved in prostitution?
4) Does Ghazi’s action reflects that when there is no law in the country, such kind of incidents start happening?

Reader Comments:

law and no law

thee is indeed no law.either v should agree with maulana or declare the country as sexfree state through legislation,an act which will not b allowed by the majority.i do not mean majority in parliament but public.

dadu, Pakistan - 09 April, 2007

what?!

I did not like what the girls did. They abducted the women and took law in their own hands, which is a crime in itself, if everyone is given such a hand, then everyone can beat someone else or kill someone else, because the police doesnt do anything etc
Brothels are wrong and we are Muslims, but they have to think, if the do close this brothel, it will simply move somewhere else, that doesnt mean they shouldnt close this brothel, but they could have taken other actions. The remarks they made against the government and the threats just made their case worse, and people instead of supporting them were against them. The have a lot of political agends, they said Pakistan should have Caliphate, can a country have a caliphate? they said its because of todays government that such vulgar things happen? well, do u really think if nawaz sharif etc were in power brothels wont be in business?
they will always be in business go to any country, iran, saudi etc, but the thing is to influence people and change their preceptions so that the whole society can change. These girls might have had a good message, but they didnt influence alot of people in a good way, espeiclaly the media which blasted them.
I can think of other ways of closing a brothel, but why couldnt they talk to this women first and go to GEo or something and ask them cover this story, they could have built up pressure through the media, or! they could have found out about the women being used and offered protection to them istead ? or talked to this women before...things could have slower..i wont say they had negative plans in their head, they could have done something slowly with more back from the public...someone teach them. We live in a complicated society and nowadays u really do need someones influecne upon you, if they did it slowly, maybe most of pakistan would have liked it and supported their efforts...having said that, i do think its just a phase, as were many before e.g. the people compalining about advertisment pics, etc..its a phase..and these women should be given classes about leadership management or something

uzair usman, United Arab Emirates - 10 April, 2007

Prostitution in Islamabad

Since the government has left the residents of sector G/6 at the mercy of unscruplous elements people should report about existence of brothels to police and the management of Lal Masjid. Just to see who serves the people better.

Malik, Pakistan - 10 April, 2007

brothels in Islamabad

Go into the root cause of prostitution.
The root cause is poverty. Give the girls education, jobs and their families some sort of financial help.

No one goes into prostitution
for the fun of it. Women find it very degrading to sleep with strangers for money but they have no other
choice. Let the honourable Maulana Sahib find a long lasting honourable solution to this problem without force,violence or fines

Onkar Sharma, Iceland - 10 April, 2007

Lal Masjid -- Where are "Qatil" of Ulama

Where are the Murderers of Moulana Abdulah, Azam Tariq, Mufti Nizam ud Din Shamzai and many of others. Who will provide justice to thier families.

Who will rebuild 7 mosques that were demolished by CDA.

Is the only "Jamia Hafsa" only illegal in Pakistan.


Zafran, Pakistan - 10 April, 2007

Pak pros

As they say in America and Canada that young women get sucked into brothels due to poverty or incest or abuse at home. And then they get put and glued to big cash flows,drug addictions and life of sin and sleeping with all for money sake.In America and canada,90 percent of the income of prostitutes is stashed away by pimps of bad repute to support the kicking habits of prostitutes with availability of drugs and Afghani and other hash.

A man of chasracter will really not even go close to these women of bad repute.In south Asia, the hookers may be soft and not that damaging. they may even qualify for rehabilitation or fit to be married into. But, in north America, they can make life for them and for others hell due to dangers and even murders.An active and average looking prostitute having 20-30 cusdtomers a night can make 4000 dollars (two lakhs and forty thousand rupees a night)or many times more than a doctor, an enginner or a charterd accountant will make, but all of this money ends up in heavy drugs, needles and destruction of any body who comes into their path other than the pimps or the associates.even the police does not interfere into the matter.

Even in fake rehabilitation, a prostitute of America or Canada will do sucker marriage with someone who has property and money inherited or saved up.Soon after few months the poor man looses it all and even become homeleass as the hooker pulls it all to drugs and pimps.

India Pakistan prostitutes are soft, noble and harmless in comparison.Their clients do not get killed, murdered or rendered penniless within no time.ThePakistani movie bazare Husan is a noble version of what happens in north America.Here, people addicted to prostitution can empty or unload their whole month's income of 2 lakh rupees or more in half an hour and beg for the rest of the month.

COMPARED TO PAKISTAN, ADDICTION TO PROSTITUTES IN AMERICA OR CANADA IS TOO DANGEROUS AND TOO COSTLY. AND A MAN WANTING A GOOD AND DEEP TASTE OF IT WILL SURE END UP AS DEAD MAN AND NO BODY WILL EVER BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED. AND THE USELESS PROSTITUTES WHO CANNOT BRING ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE PIMPS ARE SOMETIMES FOUND DEAD OR KILLED IN AMERICA OR CANADA.AND HOTELS CATERING TO JOHNS AND PROS CAN MAKE FAT MONEY IN NORTH AMERICA AS THE HOTEL ROOM CAN BE RENTED OUT 10 OR MORE TIMES DURING THE NIGHT AS THE CUSTOMERS COME IN AND GO OUT PAYING ELEVATED HOTEL ROOM RENTS PLUS 200 DOLLARS THAT THE PROSTITUTE MAKES EVERY HALF HOUR.SHE IS THE MACHINE IN AND OUT WITH 200 DOLLARS PRICE TAG FOR EVERY HALF HOUR SHE SPENDS WITH JOHNS.

YOU SEE THE SAME PHENOMENON IN HOTELS AND BARS OF DUBAI AS THE SAUDIS HAVE MADE UAE AS HEAVEN FOR PROSTITUTION. LIKE IN AMERICA, THE SAUDI CLIENTS IN DUBAI ARE DROPPING THEIR FUMBLED FROM POCKETS MONEY ON THE FLOORS FOR WOMEN TO PICK UP.BUT AGAIN, DUBAI PROSTITUTES MAY ROB THE MEN IN SIMILAR MODES AS IN AMERICA OR CANADA, BUT THEY ARE NOT DANGEROUS.PEOPLE DO NOT GET KILLED OR MADE TO DIS-APPEAR LIKE IN NORTH AMERICA.THAT IS WHY NORTH AMERICA'S JOHNSES LIKE TO GO TO DUBAI OR BANGKOK FOR SAFETY REASONS.

THE PAK PROS MAY BE GENTEL AND SOFT AND LIKE THEIR SISTERS IN DUBAI, THEY DO NOT HAVE HAGGARD OR WORN OUT LOOKS OF THEIR DISTANT YET DANGEROUSLY LIVING SISTERS IN AMERICA OR CANADA. THEY SAY THAT EVEN EUROPE IS LESS DANGEROUS IN PROS DOMAIN.

LET ME ANSWER YOU QUESTIONS AS SUCH:

1) What should area people do if a brothel is being run in their area?

Answer:
I think the the morality of people is much sensitized in Islamic world.

The people in the area should not visit the pros and must try to keep the johns out of area physically if the police does not do any thing.A few women pros have no right to live different than majority or 99 percent or more population.In discreet, the pros or johns can still find reunions un detected or un traced. well that is their luck and luck has exceptions every where.

2) Do you think police should take action against dens of prostitution and gambling if approached?

I think Islamic societies with strong moral base and ground would love to see police or any body or even themselves try to stop this vice. Prostitution is a sick sick thing every where even if it is soft and gentel and hidden or discreet in muslim countries. The Arabs have concubines or ticket to dubai to mitigate it in their own countries.May be affluent Pakistanis will fly to Dubai, but Saudis have made it very expensive over there.

3) What do you think about Mualana Ghazi’s offer to the women involved in prostitution?

Good luck Maulana. It is possible with Pak Pros as they are gentel and soft and not dangerous there.There is nothing wrong if she finds a good man.Tell me if they have a bride for me from out there.

4) Does Ghazi’s action reflects that when there is no law in the country, such kind of incidents start happening?

They will happen no matter what.Every man needs woman and soft and pretty and gentel Pak Pros make it happen.


Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 10 April, 2007

Try to understand the facts.

No one like this act. It is not a Islamic way of protest of Madrasa Hafsa students, But there is every one wants to critise, If we analyse the events we have to understand that the real suppor is from the back of establishment, who wants to create unrest in the capital firstly they destroy the Mosque and after that they promoise to built it. No one have asked why they destroy the Mosque??? Who are those people who order to destroy the Mosque, ???

Hamza, Pakistan - 10 April, 2007

Decent Brotheless Pakistan (anywhere)

Recently I went to visit acquaintance in Islamabad G11 but I stayed in finest looking
Pricy Residential Guest House in residential District around G-6 not far from a Saudi Building nearby (all I can remember).Islamabad with fines homes
High class Hotels Motel (v few) had no evidence as if a Brothel city or indecency of any kind whatsoever. On the contrary this was only World’s major capital city or country without prostitution or social Life or partying kind city as such .Clean modern Islamabad is one of finest City Govt Offices Ministries Buildings Office Block High way in Alps or Himalaya set up.Scenic Pakistan had many location of Swiss resort kind (I visited in short time ) with No evidence of indecency or Prostitution across the country.They resembled Madrasah Talib or soldiers in check point everywhere.

It was pleasure to drive and have one of the cheapest Taxi rides anywhere. Most delightful was White Marble Faisal Masjid scenically placed as If 4 rockets (minaret) ready to go into space.Hafsa Lal Masjid with Saudi Red Gamcha Towel wrapped Masked man either have implanted Shamim Chachi with Bhattigee (nieces)Prostitution or 5 star hotel or Saudi House vicinity have Niqab Movement catering to extremely wealthy sheik.If you see Niqab girls in vicinity with Cellophane mobile phone in that kind of set up or in Marble arch Hyde park near Pricy Dorchester Hotel and wealthy Arab district it is Niqab soldiers and niqab chachii Bhatigee case of indecencies.However, punishment for admitting zina is severe. In Dorchester London zone I was amazed to find one takeout sandwich restaurant is calling Themselves Zina restaurant.There are two kinds of Saudi
Gamcha towel wrap.One is Red colour.Other is Black like Yasser Arafat wore. In my book Black one is security oriented while red one Saudi activist oriented (or someone
Using above gauchos as method of shariat promoter).I travelled to almost all Pakistan
Upto China Hindu Kush Afghanistan Karachi and inbetween.There were no brothels of
Any kind or Evidence of prostitution or any one approaching even in hotel Motel and guest homes.In a country of 160 million with low GDP per capida it is a miracle.In fact
City like Karachi looked like Western with fine down motorway with offices and apartment complexes and fine hotels and guest homes and extremely cheap taxis and
One of the lowest hotel prices with matching western facility.Since soldiers guard
Everywhere they can be instructed to keep open eyes both for Pros or G(Gamcha) operators or S(shrt) promoters undermining security personnel checking drug flow
Niqab escorta flow.


M.B.Zakaria, United Arab Emirates - 10 April, 2007

rehabilitation programes

no one born as prostitute.only circumstance leads to it.why not implement some woman run small scale industries with govt finance where only women manage,work with govt training which can support family.Education should be given free

kuruvilla I, Hungary - 10 April, 2007

Prostitution

sounds like I think Mr Anwar is not in touch with reality
20-30 customers a night? is he talking about slot machines or women?

prostitution is the oldest profession like they say and is not just home to America and Canada for your information.

not only it should be NOT banned it should be legal especially in Pakistan so that there would be less child abuse I don't want to go into details but I can assure you there is a lot more of that happening in countries like Pakistan then elsewhere in the world

young childrten are always a target and easy prey for desperate people

Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi wants to be the ayotola of Pakistan or something!?
He is full of it...why did He allow western journalists to film His school from the inside go to utube and see..why is He on tv? what kind of a religious person is he.

"You are free to go to your temples; you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any caste or creed — that has nothing to do with the business of the state"-I don't need to tell anyone who's wrods were these

what did that mean really?


Amir, Canada - 10 April, 2007

i like brotherl

Hi the running of brothel is useful in many manner. poor girls gets income to support her big family. single men living in islamabad by doing matah with these girls can satisy their sexual requirements. i would love if some one give me the mobile number and addresses of these brothels located in islamabad. thanks

akhtar, Pakistan - 10 April, 2007

No Pakistani brothel or hoare house for Foreign soldiers in vicinity please

Brothel is a place where women can be found like in western movie or Indian bazaars
Canadian and European prostitute district or EU Australia New Zealand with prostitution
Tax. Islamic Countries are blessed with no such Hoare house. or Hoare tax. Islamic hoor is not exactly western Hoare of brothel. In many countries you can be approached but I never heard of having brothel in Islamabad Karachi Lahore Hyderabad Multan.
People do engage in rape incest prostitution. But there is no brothel in Pakistan or in Islamic countries. Those you are trying to introduce brothel either they have aid HIV positive or Have gone to prostitutes .Those who are dying will love to promote prostitution and spread aid .Govt of Pakistan should ensure that no one is
Opening a brothel night club alcohol sales strip club officially.

Those Pakistanis who have become prostitutes in USA Canada UK EU Australia New Zealand and have returned to Pakistan to die there with aid will love to open one or spread aid.Govt of Pakistan should arrest such publicity people such advertisement such group such dying people or gay lesbian advertisement by forming vice squad in early stage.


BeZee, Canada - 11 April, 2007

Little thing please little mind i.e. talking about none existing brothel

Young people should learn to develop career .Learn a trade learn skill. Talking about prostitution is subversion. Like progressive nation people should think of
Projects Industries participate in sports .Thinking to earn money by prostitution or brothel or common law living or sex without marriage is futile. Who ever is promoting
Such polluted mind should be arrested


bulue_zacaria, Georgia - 11 April, 2007

Pakistan got the right to IMPLEMENT Islamic LAW

Pakistan got there right to implement the ISLAMIC LAW. why.....because this country is an ISLAMIC state and got majority of Muslim population, then why they are stick to BRITISH LAW which is almost expired here in UK.
MUSLIMs OPEN YOUR EYES, remember 8th OCT 2005 earthquake. OPEN your eyes before another MAJOR DISASTERS comes into your HOMES as a PUNISHMENT.
BE MUSLIM and SUPPORT ISLAM.
and STOP all UNISLAMIC ACTIVITIES.

Libral, United Arab Emirates - 11 April, 2007

Islamic policing


Here are the answers :

1. If a brothel is being run in their area, the local people could inform the mullahs of the Lal Masjid to seige the premises or blow it up Taliban-style (remember Bamiyan buddhas).

2. The police should not take action against dens of prostitution in Islamabad because prostitution is the USP of Islamabad & it will drive away the much needed tourists.

3. Maulana Ghazi's offer to the prostitutes is hypocritical. Will he marry a prostitute himself or marry his sons to prostitutes?

4. Ghazi is the new self-appointed Taliban-style home minister of Pakistan. Jive-Jive Pakistan!


Md Kashif, Bahamas - 11 April, 2007

Reply to one

This is in reply to Amir.I can state the facts as eye witness as I was auditing gas energy economy in a mall that was right in the middle of pros area.

North American brothels are not the brothels of Turkey or Islamabad,where a woman was running pros show.In Canada or US, tough and cruel drug pushers pimps run the show.Mr Amir is invited to come to economically active cities like Calgary or Edmonton.

This is sure for fact that these pros do not spend more than half hour on any man and their fee is heavy like 200 dollars in these financially active cities.

No body ever finds love with these pros. I had seen a young man trying to find love in a pros and try to spend more than half hour on. He had to go to banking machine that was installed right there. The man pulled out more than thousand dollars in one hour just to find love in the young woman he had banked his heart on. After one hour and dropping way more than thousand dollars on the pros he was trying to find love in,the machine refused to give out more money as the poor fellow's account with the machine had run out of money.This pros waved couple thousand dollars in her hands as her only one or two hours income.The unfortunate young man tried to stress his love for the girl and suddenly the girls pimps appeared and threw away the man after big scares of him. He would have been beaten badly if he had further stressed his love for the pros. People have been killed there.

There was an old man who jumped in happiness on a pros and handed two hundred dollars to her right in the beginning.The pros grabbed the money and told the man to just bugger off as his time was over because he foolishly handed over 200 dollars to the pros in the very first minutes and played himself out. Young or old,they are played out early in the first few minutes if they hand the money right away.

A pakistani man had bought a motel in pros area in Edmonton.The Pakistani families did not want to se him visit their homes.But, he ran a very profitable business for a year and sold his motel and left the city never to be found or known again.He used to brag about his motel rooms getting rented ten times a night.

Aamir should see taxis line up in down town Calgary and will be shocked to see what goes on inside taxis.These taxi drivers are mostly Indian and Pakistanis and they are really having their cabs used for prostitutes for 20 minutes or so quickies.

Ponny(prostitutes of New York) or Pola(prostitutes of Los Angeles)or Pot(prostitutes of Toronto) are reportedly known for 20 customers a night.The pimps are making those things happen.

It is not like prostitutes of Turkey where those women have been rejected or disowned by their families if they run away with a man.These Turkish pros try to act like wives as they are trying to find a husband in brothel.These pros will make cofee, serve food and behave like a bride in every manner as they are trying to make the Johns as husband.

Islamabad pros conducted by the defensive aapa must be soft and nice persons. It can be rough in Karachi or Lahore,but Islamabad people are really nice and gentel.Islamabad pros,like pros of some Turkish brothels,may even be providing love to their customers.It is not like in Pakistani film "Bazare Husan", where the actress Salma Aga has two pimps, who happen to be a man and a woman. But even Bazare Husan is a gentel show as the pros is not shown robbling a man every half hour or even every five minutes if the stupid John has handed over the money right in the start.Even Dubai is different than north America and the pros will hang tough with one Saudi all the evening.

I think Iran and Saudi Arabia have given the people benefit of mutah to Shias and concubines to Sunnis.

The Arabs and Saudis in particular are lenting their lust for woman in much liberated Dubai.Iranians have less immoral Kish Island,where there is no morality police like in rest of Iran. But,in Kish Island too the Iranian women dress in less strict chador.while staying at Maryam hotel in Kish Island,I could see many lone Iranian women flown over from Tehran, Shiraz, Isphahan or other cities to relax at beautiful Kish in little bit more liberal atmosphere. This is a very beautiful island and Iranians are building the world's second seven star hotel there after the burj Arab of Dubai. But, Kish women morals are more or less like those in Pakistan.The rest of Iran is very strict with chador and morality police IS every where.You have to engage in Mutah to get temporary Persian bride.Four hundred dollars can give you a pretty Persiana for two weeks Mutah and the rate is more or less the same in Lebanon for Mutah with Persian or Hazaballah girl in Lebanon.There is a small token fee of 200 dollars for Imam as the Mutah certificate is very essential. Otherwise, the girl can be stonned to death and the man can be in tremendous trouble too.

You keep the Mutah certificate for Shias and concubine one in KSA for safety.

Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 11 April, 2007

Brothels

Prostitution is the oldest profession on this earth. Sex is a chemistry.Its in our bodies. Wheather,you are a muslim, jew, christian or Hindu, we all have in our bodies and we as humans,cannot get rid of it. My advise to all,is tolerance because prostitution will remain, as long as mankind will exit.

Arshad, Belarus - 11 April, 2007

Significance of Forced Red Scarf Masked Man

Significance of Lal Masjid Lone Red Scarf masked man ...

Reviewing into specific Media tapes behind all massacre suicide bombing
Foreign National beheading and trouble around to the globe which involved
Scarfed Terrorist or Jihadist or Taliban background specific masked man one is standing
(in the back ground)Either with Saudi Red Gamcha masking scarf or Blue-black
Gamcha (masking scarf) to the extent that it has been specially focussed
at the funeral of king Hussein of Jordan or King Muhammad v of Morocco
Both died suddenly as if foul play (hence the focus of attention).


B_LaL, Hungary - 12 April, 2007

Anty Shamim Naqvi

Have you noticed powers of Shamim Naqvi, famous operator of brothel at G-6 Islamabad?

She is a close relative of a leader of MMA, due to this reason MMA backed out from the scene.

Question is why Benazir and PPP are so active in all this case. Nayyer Bokhari, Sherry Rahman, Raja Parvez Ashraf have the personal interest in this matter while it is a fact that Shamim Naqvi is an established operator of Brothel at G-6 since many years. She is already on the list of Police since long but it is necessary to chalk out all those hidden forces that have interest in all this matter.

We will discuss each person involved in this matter including some big guns of media who have personal interest in all this matter very soon and will point out many hidden facts behind the iron curtain.

First of all to establish that Shamim Naqvi is really operating brothel was necessary. We have the names of only seven category three PPP leaders; three NGO’s who protested at Aabpara Islamabad under the protection of Police, Rangers and ISI. Total persons were not more then hundred including security.

We have also found deep routes of Shamim Naqvi at Daily News of Jang-group.



Please open attachment about a report published in Daily Ausaf, April 05, 2006.


international professor, Pakistan - 12 April, 2007

Hira Mundi

Who has given them right to Question the shamim Aunty or any one. If they want to implement Sharia Laws they need to get elected and then do what ever they want to do.You can do preaching but you can not force any one EVEN Aunty Shamim?Ask Aziz & Ghazi So called Thekaedar of Islam, when Islam WAS PREACHED WITH FORCE?

pkhan, United Kingdom - 12 April, 2007

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