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Act of Burying Women Alive

03 September, 2008

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In the midst of massive political, economic and social crisis faced by the country, the shocking news of the barbaric incident of burying five women alive in the name of tribal honour in the district Nasirabad, Balochistan, and the subsequent defence of the brutal act as the Baloch tradition in the Senate by Israrullah Zehri and Jan Mohammad Jamali, has made many think that with such a misogynist and criminal mindset of our public representatives, what hope do we have to survive as a nation and pull ourselves out of multiple crises. The response of the senators from Balochistan is a repeat of the response of Ajmal Khattak of the ANP and some other members of the senate who defended the "honour killing" of Samia Imran by her family in 1991 as the Pukhtun tradition.

The way provincial government tried to cover up the incident and manipulated the local administration and the law enforcement agencies because of the alleged involvement of Abdus Sattar Umrani, a brother of Sadiq Umrani, provincial minister of housing shows that there is no hope for justice for the poor and women as long as tribal, feudal and monied classes continue to dominate the social and political structures of our country. Due to the involvement of tribal influential in the gory incident, no FIR was registered. It was only after one and a half month that the Balochistan High Court took a suo moto action and ordered the registration of a FIR.

However, the Quetta High Court has already disposed of the case as DPOs and the local administration denied that any such incidents took place in the area. The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) investigated the case and brought irrefutable evidence to the public attention to prove that this human tragedy did in fact take place. They have already sent the case with all the supporting evidence to the United Nations Court of Human Rights. Our Senate finally passed a resolution to condemn the incident and has set up an inquiry committee to investigate the case. However, no one from the civil society or human rights organisations is invited to be on this committee.

The public uproar regarding the incident and the statements made by the two Baloch Senators, is highly justified. However it is important for us to understand why the male elite in tribal, feudal and sardari cultures is so obsessed with controlling women`s lives and their sexuality. This will help to come up with a more informed and comprehensive response to such incidents.

  • As we know, by means of "Culture" a society is developed and make it different from other societies, by this angle, should we condemn it or not?
  • In this modern era, such criminal acts have cultural value or not?
  • Was it a "Cultural" or "Moral" act?
  • Reader Comments:

    Ayesha

    I heard about cover ups about some one.But,let us assume that you are Ayesha and a young and pretty one.

    Two wrongs do not make one right.Women killers in both cases are criminals and it was clearly labelled as very rare criminal act in both cases.

    All I stressed in my letters was necessity of Misyar or Mutah in Pakistan as well.Misyar or Mutah keeps men kind as one has pseudo marriage responsiblity of not hurting the weaker yet very softly tender gender of females.

    KINDNESS IS THE ONLY THING YOU CAN BESTOW TO THEM WOMEN.

    In the absence of Misyar or Mutah,out of wedlock sex is considered punishible sin.Also,without Misyar or mutah,the land owner feudalist can do excesses on women and indulge into in-extricatable sex intrusions.
    In Canada or US,you have freedom to do whatever and for last resort keeping, bearing and bringing into the birth of child,you have common law living or marriage.

    I myself must have gone into varied degree of relationships with all shades of girls and women in Canada and couple ones in America.

    Looking at one an other from the corner of each one's eye is the intiated start of the affair between male and female.Then and once the hearts get propagated, all norms are out.the human nature kicks in to feel,to touch,to coerce,to pamper, to fondle,to cossett and to tempt into stepwise walk through the final ritual act that seals the mind enough to overlook consequences of even death.In the absense of Misyar or Mutah or the freedom of the western world in place, this pleasurly and pleasured upon ritual can be dangerous and even fatal in certain societies.

    Mutah in Iran can be as cheap and affordable for all and is only a fist full of rice worth.Even though the going rate of Mutah of a pretty Persian girl or woman is about 200 dollars per two weeks or less.In Arabia, Misyar can be free to any thing and only willingness of both sides is the pre-condition.A nominal certification fee for the Mullah is the additional cost.Cheap Mutah involving poor can serve the basics of sex stress relief.A greedy Mutah or Mutahs like we found by Persian Sahrazadi in Bekka valley of Lebanon bought her brand new car through multiple mutahs.

    The key thing i have mentioned in all my letters is the protection of the woman.Protection is much preferred by a woman over kindness as protection is the culmination through kindness.

    ONCE,I HAD A VERY PRETTY FRENCH CANADIAN GIRL,HALF NAKED IN MY ARMS,AND SHE TOLD ME JUST THIS AS SUCH:

    "I FEEL VERY PROTECTED AND SECURE IN ANWAR'S ARMS."

    HOW MUCH KIND A MAN CAN BE WHEN ME ANWAR HAD PARTIED AWAY TWO HOUSES IN EDMONTON CANADA.THE FRENCH GIRL REMARKS OF FEELING SECURE WERE MADE IN ONE VERY BIG AND BEUTIFUL HOUSE THAT I OWNED AT THAT TIME.THIS THIRD HOUSE I LIVE IN NOW WAS SAVED BY ONE OF ME VERY CLOSE RELATIVE.OTHERWISE, THIS HOUSE HAD THE SAME FATE AS THE OTHER TWO.

    LET US FORGET ABOUT PROPERTY AND MONEY.THEY JUST COME AND GO.IT'S ALL FINE AS LONG AS WE DO NOT GO TO SUFFERING STAGE.

    BUT,THE TEMPO OF DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IS THE KINDNESS TO WOMEN.YOU GOT TO HAVE THE KIND PROTECTION OF THE WOMAN ONCE SHE GETS PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK.

    THE STATE OF THE FRENCH GIRL AT THAT CLIMAXED MOMENT IS EXPERIENCED BY ALL IN FREEDOM OF MATING.ALMOST EVERY EXPERIENCE IS ALL AKIN TO EACH OTHER.IN THAT CLIMAXED AND PRE-RITUAL PERFORMED,I WAS LITERALLY ASKED BY SOME TO EVEN EAT THEM RAW.BUT,THAT IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY AND EXCUSE TO SQUEEZE HER, PRESS HER, SQUASH HER, COSSETT HER IN MUTALLY WILLING, WISHING THROUGH ENJOYABLE BY BOTH IN PLEASURING AND GETTING PLEASURDED UPON.A WILLING GIRL OR WOMAN WILL BE THANKFULLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU MAN PLEASURED UPON HER TO GIVE HER THE MAXED AND SENTIMENTAL PERFORMANCE OF THE RITUAL.ANY GIRL ANY WHERE WOULD NOT CARE ABOUT ANY EVENTUALITY WHILE THROUGH THE CLIMAX OR THE ACTUAL VIGOUR AND RIGOUR OF THE RITUAL OF THE ACT OF NATURE.

    MISYAR OR MUTAH WILL PROTECT THE GIRL AND EVERY BODY'S HONOUR.

    HOW CAN I EXPLAIN TO AYESHA ABOUT WHAT THE WOMAN CONSIDER AS THE KINDNESS.SOME WOMEN CONSIDER VERY KIND MEN AS IMPOTENT AND USELESS THING.A VERY AGRESSIVE AND INTRUSIVE MAN WHO PLEASURES HER THE MOST IN THE BED IS THE REAL MAN AND BETTER THAN THE SOFT AND KIND.

    YOU CAN TRY TO PLEASE THE WOMAN WITH VERY KIND LYRICS SUNG BY AMERICA'S ALL TIME BEST VOICE OF NAT KING COLE IN THE SONG ,'I'LL WORK FOR YOU" THAT GO AS SUCH:

    "I'LL WORK FOR YOU
    I'LL SLAVE FOR YOU
    I'LL BE A BEGGAR
    OR A MAID FOR YOU"

    'IF THAT'S IN LOVE
    IT WILL HAVE TO DO"

    'I'LL CRY FOR YOU
    I'LL SIGH FOR YOU
    I'LL TEAR THE STARS DOWN
    FROM THE SKY FOR YOU"

    'IF THAT'S IN LOVE
    IT WILL HAVE TO DO"

    YOU CAN SING THOSE KIND LYRICS TO A WOMAN ALL YOUR LIFE AND SHE WON'T CARE.

    BUT IF YOU PROVE YOURSELF GOOD IN THE BED, SHE WILL SUCK ALL YOU HAVE.

    BUT MISYAR AND MUTAH WILL PROTECT ALL NO MATTER HOW YOU PERFORM IN THE BED.

    IF THE MAN PERFORMS WELL IN THE BED,YOU ARE THE KINDEST EVEN IF YOU HIT HER.

    SHE'LL BEG TO TURN MUTAH OR MISYAR INTO NIKAH.



    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 12 September, 2008

    Need for Pak-Tribune clean moderator

    Pak-Tribune should filter and reject all Na-Pak posts. The whole world is shaken by the barbaric act of burying alive of our daughters. Yet some people have stomach, not only to make mockery of heinous crime against women, but also ridicule the spirit of Islam. Islam is already under a serious attack from the entire world and we are in our struggle for survival. Yet some people have lopsided reasons to add fuel on our burning bodies. Once a learned Islamic scholar (name withheld for protecting his good name and reputation) replying to a western critic's specific question in our :way of Islamic Life”, who found it difficult to imagine, how Islam, the most practical way of life for the entire humanity, allowed 4 marriages? The scholar replied in his usual manner in a single sentence answering: " Islam makes Nikah easy and adultery difficult" and then went on to elaborate and explain the subject in details. It is common that, people generally take the provisions out of context and draw conclusions of their own liking. This is simply "Anti-Islamic".

    Sometimes innocent actions like changing names can solve delicate problems. Just to explain the point further, I tend to remind readers about a situation which followed in India immediately after the partition. It relates to the Nilgai scourge. India solved its menacing Nilgai ( large antelope) problem, which multiplied in number due to absence of Muslim hunters, simply by changing its name. According to Hindu belief, Nilgai was considered a cow and hence was religiously sacred. Therefore, they protected it against hunting. However, the Nilgai being a crop-munching menace, had been renamed through legislative process, as a “Nilghora” (Blue Horse) and de-secreted. Now, it can be legally hunted after obtaining a permit. But, this is not applicable in Muslim Law as it must always not violate the over-all essence of Islam, which literally means, “Welfare for entire Humanity”. And, women can never be excluded as being less than humans.


    M.Saeed, Pakistan - 12 September, 2008

    To Anwar Mahmood

    May Allah forgive you for spreading inhumanity around the world. Infidels like you demeaning the importance of Islam around the world. Because of people like you world doesn't take Islam very seriously. I pray again, O almighty Allah pardon this Anwar Mahmood and impart him with a right mind to think rationally and spread love all around the world.

    Only if some people like Anwar Mahmood could do the right thing, this world would be a much much better and safer place to live. O almighty Allah help us !!

    Shub, Pakistan - 13 September, 2008

    ISLAMIC Republic of Pakistan

    Pakistan was made in the name of Islam for muslims in 1947 by the determination and perseverance and strength of Jinnah.The country was established in order for muslims to be able to live in peace and harmony and most of all be able to practice their religion without offending the hindus, which often resulted in chaos and disruption in everyday lives of muslims.The burial of alive women is a barbaric act and un-holy act, and defeats the whole idea of a segregated muslim state. In my opinion Pakistan has never seen a leader who has been completely free of corruption or not had his/hers hands tied by the west to be able to run the country on the original idea of Jinnah, what chance does Pakistan bear of progression with the newly elected presedent who has been branded a crook in the past. Pakistan has no or very little chance of progress and modernism, it is still in the same dark ages as it was back in 1947, burying women alive speaks for it's self. I'm disgraced and ashamed of being a British-Pakistani upon reading of such horrific and inhumane crimes against women in todays world, such acts of animalistic behaviour calls one to think that is 'democracy' truly a western idea which is only likely to work in the west.

    Safeena, United Arab Emirates - 15 September, 2008

    You were livable beauties

    Lovely.loverly,u were livable
    Sadly killed, em forgivable
    Love,yes,was their only fault
    Them are lost now in default

    Them five women were so sweet
    Them,all men,so loved to meet
    look at em N love would start
    Love em,u won't wish to part

    Sweet babes, they were dear
    Them beauties all would cheer
    And they loved without fear
    On gallows,they had no tear

    Miss em,ah with tears and cry
    Each loving heart,o does sigh
    Beauties em were lovin braves
    Sadly they've hit the graves

    Holdin them was bliss in arm
    And each heart felt em warm
    All hate would just disarm
    When u kissed eir very charm

    Em did'nt die,they just live
    Crying,they will just forgive
    Sadly,em were watched in love
    They'd eyes like stars above

    They were living April shower
    Saw em faces in every flower
    Each of em had lovable face
    Wished u loved em N embrace

    Sadly watched em N eir grace
    All men said, love was case
    We would watch,watch so kind
    Like em, we can never find

    Only we now see the hind
    Us,you dear,you left behind
    Misyar, mutah and nikah wish
    Was for you, you dish delish

    Dish delish,you sweet pretend
    Love for you will never end
    Cruel them, they made you die
    So we all can cry and sigh

    Watched u yes N ur attraction
    Now it's so grieved affection
    Still for you,the love we got
    And you're the beauty thought

    Sad,u aint there for a touch
    Still love thought,u are such
    Come back dear, o do please
    Love you,miss u,just so much

    Damn be them so cruel N chill
    This can't be an honour kill
    This was murder of u sweet
    N for u each heart would beat

    Our tears yes fall like rain
    Come our love to us again
    Starless sky,N moonless night
    Tell us you are not in sight









    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 15 September, 2008

    Simply follow the verse and have High Quality Taqwa of Own

    Islamic Material via Holy prophet and Islamic Democracy is highly sophisticated. To introduce it to Public required IQ higher than Human Based. Mullah Islamic Scholar Tom Mullah Scholar Dick and Mullah Scholar Harry pretending to be Figh Hadees expertise and dictating dictates. Quoted such as daughter of Abu Bakr in a temporary marriage from this union were born Abdallah ibn Zubayr and Urwah ibn Zubayr figures were all among the most famous companions of the Holy Prophet.Also being quoted allowed Mutah Misyar via allowed by shia
    4:24 which simply prohibits allows what RH possess marry second enrich her with property
    Minimum dower and equal gifts minus lust. Punishment for zina still exist within Post doctoral concept of Taqwa and direct access to info. Satan even got Imams of the caliber of post doctoral Khomeini and hanged Saddam eventually. Islam came when women were buried alive and still prostituting them around with excuse of Mutah misyar honor killing while fooling around. Right hand possess has complex meaning. Consequently came grooved marked lined zodiac lines of hand measuring scaled. You could worship god respect mother and father follow Sunnah to the best of the ability yet you have been swindled as man is not
    Perfect. Based upon this loopholes Satan is there to send to the hell where fuel is human stones. However best strategy is to avoid leaning from Satan on line or via whisper illicit
    traders in stocks in Sharia gimmick and looters occupiers of peoples property justifying around with gain and lust even if they may have big Loonie Tweeny size black mark on forehead as Ibada certified Ulema with PhD.


    Z.Billo, United Arab Emirates - 15 September, 2008

    WHY KIIL JUST THE WOMEN?

    FIRST AND FORMOST NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT OVER ANYONE ELSES LIFE. IF SOMEONE HAS COMMITTED A WRONGFULL ACT THEN LEAVE THEIR PUNISHMENT TO ALLAH SURELY HE KNOWS WHAT IS THE BEST REMEDY FOR A SINNER OR IN THIS CASE ALLEDGED SINNERS. IF AN HONOUR KILLING IS THE ONLY WAY TO 'CLEANSE' THE FAMILY NAME THEN WHY NOT KILL THE MAN INVOLVED IN THE SIN ALONG WITH THE WOMEN TOO.(NOTE BY MAKING THIS COMMENT I UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AGREE WITH HONOUR KILLINGS, THEY ARE DEGRADING AND EMBARASSING TO THE MUSLIMS WHO LIVE IN CIVILLISED SOCIETIES AROUND THE WORLD)

    S. KHAN- MOHAMMED, United Arab Emirates - 15 September, 2008

    We need "Crazy Glue"


    This old fellow is Messiah of flesh trade. I thought adultery is an unforgivable sin in Islam. ANWAR MAHMOOD mullah is giving a different story. I think he is modified the Holy Quran for his convenience, giving a twist to Adultery. Whether he calls it MISYAR or MUTAH, adultery is adultery.

    This mullah is trying to legalize flesh trade in Pakistan (That's his hidden Agenda)……….Looks like, this time we need “Crazy Glue” instead of “Masking Tape” to seal his shitty mouth for an absolute shutdown.




    Jones, Canada - 16 September, 2008

    Why are all so surprised about this??

    When the government neglects the education sector so badly as it have done for the past 60 years and still does in Pakistan, of course this kind of acts are bound to happen. What else did you expect? Sorry to say but it sure will happen again. And agin. And agin.....

    Jeff KHAN, Norway - 17 September, 2008

    Tall and tan and young and lovely

    The Girl from Ipanema" ("Garota de Ipanema") is a well-known bossa nova song, a worldwide hit ... Record of the Year | Grammy Hall of Fame Award recipients | Jazz standards | Nat King Cole ...

    Most Punjabi, Sindhi and Balochi girls will pass as "girls from Ipanema" on the beaches of Rio city, which is admired by world tourist concensus as the most beautiful city in the world.

    It is very sad to hear about even one rare isolated tragedy like this.

    yes Pak girls will pass as "girl from Ipanema" as the more than hundred recordings of the song have the lyrics as:

    'TALL AND TAN AND YOUNG AND LOVELY, THAT GIRL FROM IPANEMA...."

    AND TWICE REPEATED LYRICS IN THE SONG ARE EXPERIENCED BY ALL HUMANS IN LOVE, ALL SEA CREATURES IN LOVE AND ALL FOREST LIVING THINGS HAVE COMMON IN LOVE, THE TWICE REPEATED LYRICS AS SUCH:

    "OH, BUT I WATCH HER SO SADLY
    HOW CAN I TELL HER I LOVE HER
    YES, I WOULD GIVE MY HEART GLADLY."

    I WAS ON IPANEMA BEACH SOME THIRTY YEARS AGO.MOST GIRLS OF EXCITEMENT ON IPANEMA BEACH ARE TALL AND TAN AND YOUNG AND LOVELY LIKE PAK GIRLS."

    IT IS VERY SAD TO SEE THEM DEAD WHILE THEY DESERVED LOVE.



    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 17 September, 2008

    Why die Unmarried without sex ?

    Life is short. Population of Invader countries (allied forces and incursion and grip on world
    Economy and distribution (overnight)) and their birth population seem increasing where girls are getting pregnant .People are living with lovers common law beau. Beau is a boyfriend or girl friend. The relationship is one night stand or based on culture of Western Oriented Society With newly found wealth (mainly from Muslim Oil based).

    Q. As we know, by means of "Culture" a society is developed and make it different from other societies, by this angle, should we condemn it or not?
    A.In this culture or in Islamic Culture with deliberate denial via US allied denial layout squeeze and suppression of Islamic Society Development by force ,Surely It must be condemned with the promotional Aspect of Anwar Mahmood.True Muslim Girls Boys are dying
    Without marriage without sex for no reason of their own.Why in the western culture suddenly girls and men are having good time despite going anti religion.But they do appear
    In church for birth and death matters.

    Q. In this modern era, such criminal acts such as Burying them alive or letting them die without marriage by force _ Can it be considered as cultural value or not?
    A.No. it is Subversive Act by Modern Democracy and culture Promoters trying to set aside Islamic culture with Induced guilt of 4 :22 – 4.25 amid publicity of fiqh hadees (baseless) related To female circumcision prostitution HIV Aid Poverty being claimed (overnight).

    Q.Was it a "Cultural" or "Moral" act?
    A.No it was not Islamic Cultural or Islamic Act.Islamic Cultural Act Moral act is probably best despite subversive act against my family
    And others.

    Islamic Cultural Moral Act revolves around :
    4:(22). And marry not women whom your fathers married,- except what is past: It was shameful and odious,- an abominable custom indeed.
    (23). Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-
    (24). Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
    (25). If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith.
    Mutah Misyar Zina in beach or night club or one night stand to seek a husband who will
    Eventually be acceptable as beau or common law is promotional aspect being promoted..
    If Allowed I can pin point where Muslims are going wrong in such a wonderful layout of
    Muslim wives and Talaq with provision for orphans widows hungry and destitute in lieu of beach HIV aid prostitution Mutah Misyar of own definition.


    Z.Billo, United Arab Emirates - 17 September, 2008

    Answer to all 3 Questions.


    - As we know, by means of "Culture" a society is developed and make it different from other societies, by this angle, should we condemn it or not?

    What culture! Whether it's in the name of culture or in the name of any angle, it's a brutal crime. Not only condemn, Pakistan as a nation, needs to take a corrective action. One mullah was claiming this culture came from India. After blaming on someone his responsibility is over. Even after 60 years of independence, if you can't change your brutal and barbaric culture, which you claimed to be got from neighboring India, it's a serious issue. Indians are claiming other way, which got to be true I believe. They say all these barbaric customs came along with Mughal Empire. They support their argument saying, alien culture came with new religion (i was told all Indians were Hindus) and emperors. After indipendance, Indians have changed their way of life and thinking in a greater way by innovations in their education. Even in Canada, I can see that Indian Muslims are most educated and most civilized Muslims in our country. So don't put blame on someone and do nothing. Improve your way of thinking (Especially extremists like Anwar Mahmood. Look at him, he is claiming he is an educated, but his way of thinking was never changed even after living in Canada for more than 45 years. And I am pretty sure; he will die without changing a little bit. What a disgrace of entire humanity and Canada) and improve education, instead of buying weapons for the Pakistan army, who will never be able to provide you a guarantee for your life.

    - In this modern era, such criminal acts have cultural value or not?

    No for sure. Value doesn't go along with alien culture. We all came from Stone Age. Unfortunately for some reason, these mullahs remain in Stone Age and its lack of education and wrong interpretation of Holy Quran. Basically it's because of their hesitance to accept the value of life or hesitance to accept the equality of women. People like Anwar Mahmood thinks woman is just a sex toy or sex machine. He couldn't see or respect them beyond sex. That is the whole reason; he is behind of virgins and beauties. I am not kidding. Can anyone find any of his comments, without talking about beauties? In fact this is a sickness and he really needs some sort of treatment and education. I would say, we need to put him back to “grade one” school and whip him on his buttocks (as is in Pakistan and India) to learn civilized culture. Put back all these extreme mullahs along with “Mullah Anwar Mahmood”.

    - Was it a "Cultural" or "Moral" act?

    Culture is different in every region. But we cannot justify brutal acts in the name of culture. Good moral came with education at school and teachings from parents and good friends. The education only from schools and colleges doesn't guarantee good morals. If we need an example, we don't have look at far. Just look at “Mullah Anwar Mahmood”.




    Jones, Canada - 17 September, 2008

    The rats are here for Anwar cat


    “YES I MAY DREAM A MILLION DREAMS
    BUT HOW CAN THEY COME TRUE
    IF THERE WILL NEVER EVER BE
    THE BELL ON CAT YOU”

    -above are great lyrics with only a word or two changed from a very famous song by America's all time best voice of Nat King Cole.


    I have poems for the rat Jones and his twin brother Shub (or may be same with name in disguise)

    The rat can have a million dreams
    Those dreams, yes can have the rat
    But, how and who will tie the bell
    Will tie the bell on Anwar cat

    The bell for scared Jones will ring
    The bell will ring, rat Jones will sing
    But rat Jones's dreams N chance
    Will never come true, rat can dance

    The only chance rat Jones will see
    He will be eaten by cat that's me
    That cat you know is Anwar here
    And Jones rat got so much fear

    From spirits and sprays N the tape
    The rat Jones now thinks of the glue
    The rat Jones begs see each ones help
    The cat will eat him, he sings blue

    His just only hope of life to keep
    For rat Jones is the hole so deep
    So keep on dreaming Jones, all u can
    From ur deep hole, Jones u ran

    Deep down hole, yes u rat can play
    Dream , cause Anwar cat's away
    Dream there till ur terminator
    Soon will come ur exterminator

    No one will ever like rats around
    The coward runs away from sound
    Even when Anwar cat does smell
    Rat Jones faints, he's scared to hell

    Killed by poison, eaten by cat
    Only them fates like are for rat
    Ever fear of cat is for rat Jones
    The Jones rat eats his own bones


    Like prostitute's popular name Choda Bai, This Shub has got spy cum prostitute name of spy as Shub.

    Like Jones his friend
    Got his pretend
    The coward Shub rat
    Wanting bell the cat

    Down deep hole hiding
    No fear subsiding
    I tell u a tale
    Of rat's heart fail

    Sneaking out of deep
    For eye corner peep
    Shub rat saw cat
    Was heart fail for rat

    With cat's sight
    Rat died of fright
    Shub saw the cat
    Heart failed like that

    His life lost haunt
    The cat his want
    Two in disguise
    Shub, Jones are spies

    From cat Anwar brave
    Rats, none can save
    Their silly game
    Is them are same

    They die of fear
    When cat gets near
    Both rats are dead
    Of fear all said


    And more about this Shub rat

    Shub rat he saw Anwar cat
    From the corner of his eye
    His heart failed so sudden
    And in fear he did die

    From hole, out was mouse
    And the cat was in the house
    Wishing who will bell cat
    Like the dream of every rat

    Shub and Jones rats aint exception
    Both rats got same perception
    Both these rats the cat wil eat
    Cause each cat loves rats meat

    And you know most prostitutes in some Arab countries are walking around with pat and pet name Shub, which means night in Arabic. It is like prostitutes in India loving names like Choda Bai.

    Choda Bai is pat and love name of prostitutes in India and Shub or night is same thing lovingly taken up by the women of the night in Lebanon, Syria or Egypt. Shub is nightly pleasured night girl in Arabic like Choda Bai in India.







    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 17 September, 2008

    Sad

    No other explaination criminal and shameful act!

    kadar khan, Pakistan - 19 September, 2008

    If the west lead by the US military was not next door causing so many collateral deaths of innocents in Afghanistan, Perhaps your country could get a better handle on stopping these horrible cultural traditions. We have had them in the west: burning and hanging "witches" for example, lynching people of color, and so on.

    No doubt our most offensive and destructive to the outside world cultural practice is Imperialism

    greg chimenti, United Kingdom - 24 September, 2008

    Tsk Tsk

    This expression of disappointment is as much for all of you as it is for those who have committed this act. If you think Pakistan is a "cursed" nation, or is backward because of the lack of education, or is very corrupt, it is as much your fault as it is the governments. How many of you living in Pakistan can say that you have never bribed a police officer? or how many of you have tried to impart education to those who are illiterate? Dont preach unless you practice. If you feel so bad for Pakistan then try to change this nation by yourself. Dont back out saying that it will never change, because that is you who are unwilling to change. If you are not corrupt, then the next time you are stopped by a "tullah" give your license get the chalan instead of taking the easy way out. If you are so concerned about the education in this country, stop hiring 14-15 year olds to work in your houses and pay for their education. Go and work for the civil services without taking any underhand money and try to save the system. Go to those remote area's with a local ngo and try to teach those kids how to write their name. If you cannot do that, then do not blame the nation but if you still want to point a finger then go look in the mirror and then point it.

    Shayan, Pakistan - 24 September, 2008

    She's beauty while alive

    Since this topic is still there out for discussion, let me flash some more thoughts.

    As I mentioned in my few letters that Sunni people of middle east have Misyar and Shias have Mutah as outlet for lovers or for those who are deprived of sex sans nikah marriage.A certificate by Mullah of this low profile legal marriage saves lives.

    Every body is not educated enough or sensible enough or kind enough to realize what a woman's body means living pleasure and u just cannot kill the pleasure root in your society.

    If nikah is accepted pleasure universally,then Suni Arabs have made Misyar as legal pleasure like Mutah as legal pleasure of the Shias.Otherwise many ignorant or sardari ones will kill the girls of the weak.And those so called dis-honoured male relatives of the pretty girls or women will kill their own sisters or even mothers if they sleep or even flirt with strangers.

    Pakistan or most Islamic countries are not like the liberalized west where a father or the brother of the pregnant girl will drive her into his car to the doctor and ask her to abort the pregnated womb of his sis while he will enjoy on his bottle of coke as the doctor does abortion on her.Millions of girls get abortions in the west yearly and them girls or women still live normal life with no social out cast status.A suni Arab woman in middle east is safe as long as she has Misyar certificate.A shia girl from Iran, Lebanon, Syria or Iraq is safe with Mutah certificate.Only those,who are whoring around without Misyar or Mutah certificate,have dangers to their lives in M.East.In the west,as long as the two agree,they can do whatever they like.If the un-married girl gets pregnant,abortion is there to get it all over.

    In middle east,Misyar or Mutah brides usually belong to poor homes.But never mind, beauty is beauty, whether she is rich or poor and serves the need of the hour through the legal channels permitted by the laws and religion.

    HUMANS LIVE IN THIS WORLD WITH GOD GIVEN INSTINCT AND URGE TO ENJOY EACH OTHER AS MALE VERSES FEMALE AND VICE VERSA.THERE ARE SOME DEVIANTS AMONGST PATHANS, KASHMIRIS AND LARGE PART OF CENTRAL ASIA WHO EVEN MAKE BOY LOVERS FOR MEN.BUT ALMOST ALL HUMANS LIVE TO PLEASURE WITH FELLOW HUMANS OF OPPOSITE GENDER.PAKISTAN IS IN MORE BIG STRESS AS THEY ARE TRYING TO FORCE HINDU TRADITIONS WITH THEIR OBSESSIONS OF DEVELOPED ISLAMIC CUSTOMS.PAKS WILL SHUN FROM MISYAR OR MUTAH THAT THEIR SUNNI AND SHIA CO-RELIGIOUS ARE PRACTICING IN MIDDLE EAST.MISYAR OR MUTAH IS NO SIN IN MIDDLE EAST EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT THE SAME IN STATUS OR ACCEPTANCE.BUT,BELIEVE ME YOU,PEOPLE ARE REPORTED TO BE TALKING OF MUTAH OR MISYAR AS LADEN WITH MORE PLEASURE AND INTIMACIES.MUTAH OR MISYAR COUPLES ARE MORE EXPERIENCED WITH VERSATILE AND VARIEGATED PLEASURES.YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF MUTAH OR MISYAR BRIDE GOT KILLED BY HER RELATIVE MALES.THEM GIRLS OR WOMEN ALL KNOW THAT THEY WERE, THEY ARE OR THEY WILL BE MUTAH BRIDES AND IF LUCKY NIKAH BRIDES IF THEIR SUITER DO THEM UP-GRADING.THERE IS WANT AND SEEK TYPE PLEASURE HANGING OUT THERE AS LOOMING OR OVERCAST.WHAT THE MUTAH OR MISYAR BRIDE SEEKER IS ALL READY WHEN HIS POCKET CAN AFFORD IT AND THE ACCEPTING MUTAH BRIDE IS THERE TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WHICH SHE WATCHES WITH A SMILE AS THE MULLAH PUTS HIS SIGNATURE ON IT.

    AND THE PLEASURE PROCESS IS JUST INVIGORATED AND ENTHRALLED AS THE SHE BEAUTY STRUGGLES FOR RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT IF IT IS LUCRATIVE.SHE WILL STRUGGLE EVEN WITH ADDED AND ENHANCED PLEASURE TO MAKE HER FLEETING HUSBAND SUITER CONVERT IT INTO NIKAH.

    AND, THE FATHER OR THE BROTHER OF THESE SHIA MUTAH BRIDES OR SUNI MISYAR BRIDES NEVER KILL THEIR SWEET DAUGHTERS OR SISTERS AS THEY ARE DOING LEGAL THINGS.AS A MATTER OF FACT THESE POOR RELATIVES GET FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO BRING HOPE TO THEIR OTHERWISE VERY POOR LIVES.

    MANY A TIMES, THIS MISYAR OR MUTAH BRIDE WILL SIMULATE THE WHOLE THING AS PRTENDED NIKAH.BUT,IT SERVES PURPOSE BOTH WAYS-FOR THE FLEETING BRIDE OR THE ANCHORING HUSBAND OF THE SPECIFIED TIME CONTRACT.

    AND MISYAR OR MUTAH BRIDE HAS OPEN OPTIONS AS WELL. SHE CAN ALLWAYS WALK AWAY IF THE MAN IS CRUEL AND DOES NOT TREAT HER RIGHT.IN REGULAR NIKAH, DIVORCE CAN RIP MAN OF BIG MONEY LIKE HAQ MEHAR.HERE,YOU LOOSE ONLY COUPLE HUNDRED OR FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS AND YOU CAN OR SHE CAN FIND SOME ONE ELSE.

    SO THE MUTAH OR MISYAR BRIDES STAY WITH ANCHORING HUSBANDS WITH GUARRANTEED LOVE,PLEASURES,LIKES, INTIMACIES,MATING,KEEPT IN AND GETTING KEPT AND WITH PHYSICAL MOODS,MODES AND INTERACTS OF PLEASURED LOVE.THERE IS NO SENSE OF GUILT AS LEGALITY AND PLEASURES ARE HELD UP AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE.THE MUTAH BRIDE USUALLY IS SURRENDERING TYPE AND NO MAN HAS THE HEART TO KILL SOME ONE WHO IS LIKE SWEET LOVE.

    NO MAN WILL HAVE HEART TO KILL OR EVEN HURT OR EVEN SLAP HIS MUTAH BRIDE OR MISYAR BRIDE WHO IS ALL THERE FOR YOU WITH HER VERY THOROUGH SUBMISSION OF HER PHYSICAL SELF--ALL FOR PLEASURED U HUSBAND OF MUTAH OR MISYAR BRIDE.

    ENJOY,N HAVE FUN.







    Anwar Mahmood, Pakistan - 26 September, 2008

    Let this be only film acts

    South Asia's grandest entertainment personality ever known that is Noor Jehan was burried alive just as of film act as she sang the song in film Anarkali as such:

    "Tumhari arzoo mein koochai qatil tak a ponhche

    Chale aao ke ham to aakhri manzil tak aa ponhche"

    Also on same story film, Indians burried actress Mumtaz Mahal(Madhubala) twice in the films acts in Anarkali and Mughle Azam while she sang the songs:

    "Khuda nagehban ho tumhara, dharkte dil ka piam lelo

    Tumhari dunya se ja rahe hein, utho hamara salam lelo." -----Mughle Azam

    "Aja aab to aaja,meri kismat ke kharidar, aab to aaja" ----- film Anarkali

    Watching them grand personalities, Noor Jehan and Madhubala on the screen is not that bad, though it is pitiful.

    But, it was pity to watch Noor Jehan, who was great actress do such acts. Same was true about Madhubala, who is widely considered as the prettiest actress ever in Bollywood.

    And, it was even bigger pity to see Noor Jehan got burried in film acts in film act in Anarkali.Noor Jehan was great actress and definitely the incomparable and by far the very best songstress ever known to south Asia.It is shame even to compare any singer including Muhammad Rafi or Lata or Asha to Noor Jehan, whose pitch, manipulation, depth, flow and range of voice is far too superior than any other singer's voice that south Asia or may be the world has ever produced.And was pathetic to see Noor Jehan doing the acts of getting burried alive. But,this was only in film and still not that nice of thing to watch.I would rather hear Noor Jehan sing the songs in Dopatta, Intezar, Chan Vey, Anmol Gari, Khandan, Goonghat, Heer Ranja, Patey Khan,Anarkali, Nooran and countless other films instead of watching her burried alive in film act in film Anarkali.

    And this real acts of burrying alive the living pleasurable beauties in the news here is sickening and criminal.Pakistan should get Misyar or Mutah legalized and killing of women should be punishible by death.No one has the right to take any body's life on any pretext.

    Even Mutah or Misyar should also be contracted if both parties agree to it.Pakistani men shoud learn to convince, coerce and make it intelligent.In this wonderful game of love, woman is the soft, weak, yet she is outwardly less flexamatic.it is more fun when she tells you how to be loved.But, again, in the absence of Mutah or Misyar and without that life saving certificate by the imam, don't you try to let her submit you to that ultimate act that can either render her useless or dead at the hands of those who believe and act on the punishible by death type honour killing.Mutah or Misyar will put every body on safe side.A woman will do any thing that man will ask her when she has been chrged to the sentiments of "dont care a damn about any damn thing" type charge up of the worked up aroused hysteria for discharging acts.The aggressive man has nothing to loose as she will have to pay the price with her life in certain cultures.The growth of her belly due to illegitimate baby inside her body will bring her fatal end.Her relatives won't forgive her and she wouldn't hesrslf want to be forgiven for the honour sake.So, kick in Mutah or Misyar as legal and religious safe heaven necessities or change the laws and thinking like they have in the west.

    Still, I think that taking any body's life under any circumstances must be punishable by death or life imprisonment.

    OR, BE LIKE THE TURKS.THEY JUST DO NOT ACCEPT THE GIRL BACK IN THE HOUSE AND SHE ENDS UP IN LEGAL BROTHELS IF HER SEX MAN DOES NOT WANT TO MARRY HER.IN TURKISH BROTHELS, THESE VIRGINITY STRIPPED RUN AWAY GIRLS ARE ALLWAYS TRYING THEIR CUSTOMERS TO MARRY THEM.IN MANY TURKISH BROTHELS, THESE GIRLS ARE SEEN SHOWING OFF THEIR BEAUTY BEHIND THE GLASS WINDOWS WITH PRICE TAG OF HER WRITTEN ON THE DOOR.

    I THINK THAT MUTAH, MISYAR OR TURKISH WAYS WILL BE THE SAFEST.SUNI TURKS, UNLIKE ARABS SUNIS, DO NOT PRACTICE MISYAR.BUT, THEIR FEW SHIAS ON IRANIAN BORDERS, IN CITIES LIKE SIVAS AND KAYSERI HAVE MUTAH GOING AROUND AMONGST THEM.MISYAR IS POPULAR AMONGST SAUDIS WHO LOVE TO HAVE PRETTY SYRIANS AND LEBANESE AS MISYAR BRIDES.

    ANY WAYS, THESE KILLINGS WERE CRIME AND SUCH CRIMES MUST BE SEVERELY PUNISHED.






    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 29 September, 2008

    Women are livable

    The cruel, rather criminal acts of burrying alive or killing of the weak, tender and easy to hurt weak gender women goes on all over the world.Even in highly women protecting America or Canada, the criminal killings of women happens.The root causes and approaches and methodology can vary from case to case, but certainly there are beasts amongst us all human men, who do not hesitate to kill amongst us those who are considered as pretty and lovable and livable flowers like females of society.

    In north America, it may be those who have limited brains besides their limited social constraints of being devoid of access to women, let alone pleasured availability.These sick in north AMERICAN SOCIETY MAY BE THOSE WHO ARE un-employable, moneyless or women starved.In south Asia, it may be the cast or poverty or tribal in-equalities or superiority -inferiority complex that emboldens the strong ones to pry upon the female related honour/death stigma and fatal results.

    This vice or evil or crime of killing of the women is perhaps mitigated more in middle east countries of Arabia and in Iran and Turkey.

    Honour killings are very rare in Arab countries, in Iran and in Turkey.Besides people do not carry arms and only military has weapons.Tribal or sardari system in Pakistan is very much akin to cast system in India as far as exploiting and treating of the poor man's women and the men.Will the law ever punish the cuprit if he is from upper cast in India maltreating lower cast, or is the sardari or bad feudalist badly treating the peasant or labour poor Paks --no never.

    In Turkey or Iran or much of the Arab world, you simply do not have the lord-slave type classes.The rich do not take advantage of the moneyless by force.They can agree through misyar in the suni Arab world or mutah in Shia Islamic Iran or parts of Syria,Iraq or Lebanon.Misyar or Mutah elimonates honour killing to almost nil.

    Then, you have Lebanon or Syria for example, where marriages amongst cousins is very common.Love between cousins for marriage reasons is not discouraged and there is protection for the woman from a large platoon of her cousins.

    THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THE FACT THAT MAN IS THE BOSS IN TURKEY, IRAN AND ALMOST ALL ARAB WORLD.THEREFORE,THE WOMEN ARE TRYING TO APPEASE THEIR MEN.IT IS VERY COMMON THEREFORE TO SEE MEN EVEN DOUBLE OR MORE THE AGE OF THEIR LOVING WIVES.AND WHO WOULD WANT TO KILL A WOMAN WHO LOVES HIS MAN SO MUCH.AND IT IS VERY RARE WORLD WIDE THAT A WOMAN WILL KILL ANY BODY.

    THEREFORE, IT IS THE BUTCHER MAN, WHO MUST BE CONTROLLED AS HE IS THE AGRESSIVE CREATURE.A VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED MAN WILL ALSO NOT KILL A WOMAN OR EVEN MAN.

    YOU HAVE TO INSTILL LOVE, KINDNESS AND MERCY IN THE HEART OF BEASTLY MEN, WHO GOT TO BE DISCIPLINED AND PUNISHED IF THEY HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME.HONOUR KILLING IS THING OF THE PAST AND THAT TOO WHEN MISYAR OR MUTAH WERE NOT AVAILABLE.

    WHY KILL A WOMAN OR GIRL, WHO IS TENDER, SWEET AND KIND IN MOST OF HER MOODS AND MODES.HER ONLY WEAPON IS HER TONGUE, WHICH DOES NOT SLICE A HUMAN.ONE CAN LIVE WITH HER BOLD TONGUE AS HER PRETTY FACE,HER LIPS OF ROSE, HER AROUSING BOSOM AND BODY AND HER ULTIMATE OFFER OF THAT PARADISE OR HOPE OF THAT PARADISE OF EVELOPING THE MAN INTO THE MATING ACT CAN MORE THAN COMPENSATE HER TOLERABLE TONGUE OF THE BEAUTY SHE REALLY IS.MUTAH OR MISYAR WILL BRING HER VERY SAFE LOVE BESIDES THE MONEY SHE WILL GET WITH GRATITUDE OF THE WILLING AND FLEETING HUSBAND.

    AND WHY KILL HER EVEN IF SHE HAS COMMITTED THE ACT,WHICH IS TWO WAY PLEASURE FOR DONOR AS WEL AS THE ACCEPTER.

    THEREFORE, DO NOT GIVE THE BEAUTY BLOOD BATH.GIVE HER LOVE SHOWER AND SUBLIME KISSES.SHE IS THE GOD GIFTED,GOD BLESSED AND GOD GIVEN PLEASURE FOR MAN.SHE IS THAT DIVINE PLEASURE ONLY WHEN SHE BREATHS AND IS ALIVE.KEREP HER LOVABLE AND LIVABLE BODY OF LIVE LOVING WARM INSTEAD OF MAKING HER COLD KILLED PLEASURE.SO WHAT, EVEN IF SHE HAS BABY IN HER WOMB WITHOUT MUTAH,MISYAR OR NIKAH.TURKS WILL NOT ACCEPT HER IN THE HOUSE, BUT THE LEGALIZED BROTHEL WILL.I KNOW OF ONE CANADIAN MAN WHO PICKED UP HIS BRIDE IN TURKEY FROM THEM REJECT YET HEART THROB BEAUTIES.

    "SHE'S LOVABE, LIVABLE
    SHE IS LOVE FORGIVABLE."

    ALMOST ALL HONOUR LADEN BROTHERS AND FATHERS OF THEOSE BEAUTIES WILL HAVE NO CHANCE TO COMMIT HONOUR KILLING AS THEM FEMALES ARE PROTECTED BY MUTAH AND MISYAR WITH CERTIFICATE IN HER SAFE POSSESSION.

    NO BODY KILLS MUTAH OR MISYAR BRIDFES.SHE IS THE FLEETING BRIDE TO ENVELOPE HER MUTAH OR MISYAR SUITER HUSBAND INTO THE WARMTH OF HER PLEASURE OFFERING MATING SELF.

    SHE IS SAFE AND WELL PLEASURED WHEN SHE PUTS ON HER GROOMING MAKE UP AND BOSOM TO BOSOM DANCES AND ACTS THAT MAKES THE SEXERLY SQUEEZE PLEASURE OUT OF HER TEMPORARY BRIDAL PASSION AND NOTION ONTO HER MISYAR OR MUTAH HUSBAND'S ARMS, GRABS AND LAYS.SHE IS NO LONGER DEPRIVED OF HER PARADISE GROOVES,LOVE MOANS AND PLEASURED INTIMACIES THAT LEAD HER TO THE ULTIMATE DIVINE ACTS AS IN SONG AS SUCH:

    'SHE TAKES ME TO PARADISE."

    Anwar Mahmood, Canada - 04 October, 2008

    WTF?!

    What exactly are you saying Mr Anwar? Your article goes on and on, and on, and yet on again. Yet there is no substance (at least not up to the point that I managed to stay awake - I struggled with this one from almost the start).

    You seem to go from one story to the next without informing the reader where the boundary lay.

    You describe women in a non-real-world manner; I would go as far as saying that your views are rather exist.

    Now back to the what the message might have been. In Islam if a woman OR man is *found* guilty of adultery, then the penalty is clear.

    However, to find the person(s) guilty, there have to be four witnesses to the act. This in itself makes the the task of finding someone guilty close to impossible. In such events where the four witnesses are not found (and the accused do not plead guilty), then the accuser(s) are to be punished.

    I.e., Islam has put in place procedures for the protection of a woman's honour.

    Unfortunately, in Pakistan things happen in ways that do not conform to man's law, nor to God's laws.

    The official title of the country is (was?) 'Islamic Republic Of Pakistan'. It is about time the population lived up to its name...you guys live in a hypocracy, not a democracy.

    Cohen, United Arab Emirates - 06 October, 2008

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