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Why aren`t Muslim women converting to Christianity?

20 January, 2006

By Ahmer Muzammil


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Majority of the Western media and the Pat Robertson`s of the world will have you believe that Islam is the most backward religion in the world. They will make a case that Islam is oppressive to women; it preaches hates towards anyone and everyone. They will blow fires out of their mouths how all Muslims men who are practicing are nothing but wife beaters. I have a simple question (don`t I always?), why is it that even after all this oppression we never hear of any Muslim women whether they are living in Islamic countries or even in the west converting to Christianity or Judaism, or Hinduism or any "ISM" for that matter. We will hear the Irshad Manji`s and Isra naumani`s trying to "INNOVATE" in Islam by pleading to us how lesbianism and Bastard children are a necessity and how this behavior should be welcomed & encouraged in Islam. But never will we hear even them saying that another religion is the answer. On the other hand despite of open prejudice and harassment to some degree, Islam is spreading in Europe and America like wild-fire.
  
  According to an article in a famous right-wing magazine named Christian Science Monitor, thousands of European and American men and women are converting (the word used should be reverting because we as Muslims believe that every human being is born in a state of submission to God, therefore revert instead of convert is a more appropriate term) to Islam every year. According to this article entitled "WHY EUROPEAN WOMEN ARE TURNING TO ISLAM", the ratio of women converting to Islam is much higher than the men. The article states that the reason for this higher ratio is not what is widely perceived which is that most women come within the folds of Islam because they marry a Muslim man. On this issue of women converting to Islam because of their Muslim husbands, professor at Birmingham University Dr. Haifa Jawad says "although in the past this was one of the most prevalent reason for the women to convert, now it`s mostly on the basis of their own faith and understanding".  Peter Ford
 the author of this article writes that according to researchers, the rationale for this mass conversion amongst women especially to Islam is the moral bankruptcy and the superficial nature of the society that surrounds them. I guess what he is saying is that Islam doesn`t put emphasis on the "HOTTNESS" of a woman, rather on her character. Because we don`t sometimes have a say in what we look like, nature dictates that for the most part, but we as normal human beings have total control of our behavior. Therefore we should be judged on what we have the power to alter.
  
  Karen Van-Newkirk a Dutch researcher who has written extensively on Dutch women`s inclination towards Islam, says that in Islam, men and women both have specific rights and responsibilities. She further explains that the gender roles are well defined in Muslim societies and women are not considered merely a sex-toy. She goes on to say that Islam gives women uncanny respect in the society especially in the roles of Mother, sister, daughter and wife.  Even today in this age of materialism I am a personal witness to families back home, where women in their 80`s who are completely unlettered obviously are not the bread-winners of the family, never have been, but they have the stature of the head of the house hold. My own grand-mother while she was alive (may Allah swt grant her Paradise) made all the important decisions of our extended family. Her approval was needed in marriages of her grand-children; she had the final say in almost everything that happened in the
 households of her 4 sons. It was funny that I as a 4 year old, favorite of my grandmother got away with anything and everything to the displeasure of my father, but he couldn`t do anything once my grandmother had laid the law (or lack thereof).
  
  In an earlier issue, Christian Science Monitor published an article by Christine Armario entitled "HISPANICS ARE FINDING ANSWERS IN ISLAM". In this article Ms. Armario makes a case that the reason Hispanic women are turning to Islam is the simple fact that they see respect and security for their gender. According to this article, in United States alone there are about 40,000 reverted Muslims of Hispanic origin. Every year in USA about 20,000 men and women revert back to Islam, out of which 6% are Hispanics. I am not making any of this up; this is a fact that was published in a right wing magazine. It is however ironic though that after all the persecutions and bad media and your Oriely`s and 700 club`s, Rush Limbaugh`s and Michael Savage`s, Islam is still thriving in the heart of America. Ouch! Spare a thought for the neo-cons, No wonder Dick Cheney keeps getting one Heart attack after another.
  
  Here`s a million dollar question though! All these western women with all their freedoms and mini skirts and open societies and whatever else that is the sign of a "FREE WOMAN", they are dumping all of that and are running towards "THE BIG, BAD, BACKWARD ISLAM" obviously with their free will (Unless Bush administration is Taliban in disguise). On the flip side we see a culture transforming in front of our eyes in Pakistan. I am baffled when I see slow dancing couples in an EID program. Can it get any more disrespectful? If this is not a mockery of our religious events, I don`t know what is? Please spare me the lectures on how times are changing and Islam needs to change with time. Having an educational and open discussion about how do we make our Islamic banking systems affective so we can be competitive in the economic world, or whether "Hijaab" includes the face covering or not, we should & must discuss these and many other issues openly and should accommodate common-sense. But
 if someone is going to plead the case of "Mixed Prayers" or how dancing whether classical or otherwise is some how part and parcel of our religion and Pakistani culture then you`ll get an earful from me and believe you me I am the voice of majority on these issues. It is quite astonishing that just because I am not comfortable watching a woman dance, some how it makes me less cultured and civilized. I shouldn`t automatically become a "TALIBAN" just because I am not able to appreciate the vulgarity in Fashion shows and supposed "Cultural Shows". Of all the people, I would think that "Liberals" would be a little more open-minded about my "Backward-ness".
  
  "THERE IS SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT ISLAM!" It`s a Cliché at this point among Muslims. If it`s so special then why do we see Muslims making a complete mockery of their religion? And why do us the "Silent Majority" stand idly and let them dictate what our values and morals should be. If our true Islamic culture and values are so repugnant, how do you explain this massive conversion to Islam in societies where there is no compulsion on them? These societies have all the "ART" that one can want, and still there is hunger for that spirituality that only Islam can provide. It`s high time that we the majority of Pakistanis instead of just being by-standers and let these "LIBERAL-BULLIES" shove their mental-illness down our throats in form of "ART", we need to reclaim our media from these Indians-wannabe`s.  I have always told my western colleagues and counterparts that please don`t judge my religion thru my actions (although that`s a natural recourse, therefore its incumbent upon Muslims
 everywhere to live Islam rather than just talk Islam). If you want to know what Islam is about then go to the source, which is Quran and the life and teachings of our beloved Prophet (May peace and blessings of Allah swt be on him). I find it amazing and it`s a lesson for the haters of Islam as well as the supposed "MULLAH`S", when asked by his companions who is the best amongst Muslims, my beloved prophet (May peace and blessings of Allah swt be on him) said "THE ONE WHO IS POLITE AND LOVING TOWARDS HIS WIFE", all the wife-beaters are duly warned!
  
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Reader Comments:

1. Since you yourself proclaimed that the world opinion of Islam is that of wif-beating blah blah, how do you expect suppressed women to convert..they are ill-educated people who are under men all the time and even if they were to utter" Chris..." they'd be stoned to death.

2. Europeans women converting to Islam ..Is it not because of your world-wide preaching business..going around the world brainwashing people into converting? Hinduism is an ancient relegion..however I have never heard of anyone "converting" to Hinduism..and its not because its a "bad relegion" its because we dont go around preaching it..if people want to they can. Islam is a young relegion in comparison and if it hadnt been for tyrants like Auragazeb etc..who forced people into conversions..Islam would be a dyin relegion today. Once again..it wouldnt be a dyin relegion because Islam is a "bad relegion". A great person said..Islam is one of the greatest relegions in the world..Muslims are the worst followers ever.

Dude, Seychelles - 20 January, 2006

Why don't musims convert

Because they'd be killed! If they could convert, they would. But everyone knows it is prohibited by islam to convert to another religion. Those who do escape are the lucky ones.

Michael, - 20 January, 2006

ans. in the article

dear i think the ans. is in your article itself why muslims women arent converting to anyother religion. very simple other women has freedom to do wat they feel if they want to convert to islam she doesn has to be afraid of her family or relatives. but if a muslim woman feel to change she has to face all relatives family with life threatning consequents. if a women from other religion converts to islam she can still visit her parents and family . but can u think that a muslim woman converting to anyother religion can visit her family and frens . i have been all around world have been together with muslim girls too and missed beautiful person just becoz. she couldnt dare to marry non muslim. even wen i was her biggest love . so who has freedom ? teh one who marry to muslim and become muslim or the one who cant marry non muslim even if she wants to coz of familys fear.
no offence to any religion or god . but to those people who makes human life difficult.

riklazio, - 20 January, 2006

ahmer

Ahmer needs crash course in journalism and also English

Why aren`t Muslim women converting to Christianity by Ahmer Muzammil is the most ridiculous article ever written in the Pak Tribune.
Muzammil is unaware that thousands of muslim women have married non-muslim men all over the world. But because non-Muslims are not so narrow minded and chauvnistic about their religion most of them are comfortable with their wives not converting.
This is unlike Islam where a woman is forced to convert if she marries a Muslim man.
The fact of the matter is thousands of Muslims are converting to Christianity, but fear of the Muslim terrorists prevents them from publicly announcing their decision. There have been hundrreds of cases when Muslim men and women who converted to Christianity in America have been assaulted and even killed by Muslim extremists. After all, the Shariah prescribes the death penalty to Muslims who convert. Can Ahmer deny this?
It's the Muslims who make a big issue out of foreigners, especially white skinned ones converting to Islam. It's so pathetic and unacceptable in these times. When a white Christian becomes a Muslim, the Muslims' chest fills with pride. God help you.
No wonder the Muslim countries are the most backward in the world with their women being treated as child prodicing machines. This is how Islam is spreading with people breeding like rats. No wonder an average Pakistani woman produces six children.
Ahmer says Muslims are thriving in America. Why? Because we Americans are liberal and allow everybody to freely practise their religions unlike Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia where you can be sent to jail for merely carrying a bible.
It's because we Americans are so liberal that we allow Islamic studies in our universities and the construction of mosques whereever there are Muslims. Even the state makes donations for this purpose. How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia?
It's cold-blooded hyporicrisy typical of Muslims, particularly Pakistanis, to militate against the liberalism of America completely ignoring the fact that it is this liberalism that allowed close to seven million muslims to settle in America and become citizens.
Unfortunately many Muslims keep on abusing the system at the same time enjoying the benefits it offers. Only Muslims can be so ungrateful.
If people like Ahmer are considered intellectuals in your society, even Allah won't be able to save you.


Habib Johnson, New York

habib johnson, United Kingdom - 20 January, 2006

Muslim women converting to Christianity

Ahmer,

Would you mind explaining to me why you conveniently left out the part about religious 'fatwa's?

Everyone knows about these fatwas. They are issued left, right and center by the very upright and moral torch bearers of any Islamic society - the ablative, irrepressible, bearded wonders - the mullahs and Imams.

All it takes is one such religious icon to issue the fatwa against a religious convert & the poor convert's days are doomed. This rabble rouser knows that there are enough hot-heads around in this world who would take the plunge & make the victim see hell so that he/she can achieve glory (and may finally be granted paradise). They are pretty effective -- ask Salman Rushdie.

The surprising thing is these fatwas are selectively issued - on issues that do not have a bearing on the current & modern society but rather on issues that do nothing to strengthen the hand of the weak, poor & downtrodden (ask Messrs Taliban & Co). The opportunistic & convenient translation of the Holy texts by these visionaries with blinkers are the bane of many a society, on both sides of the divide.

Islam, no doubt, has its strong points and deserves its respect among the premier religions of the world. You have unfortunately chosen some very weak points to answer the question that you raise.

Murthy

Murthy, United Kingdom - 21 January, 2006

Thank you fo pointing out that things are really changing in Pakistan. Drinking, couple dancing like you mentioned, girl friend/boyfriend relationship are very common in Pakistani soap. I would blame this on those Tublighe Jemat people who come to other countries to convert non-muslims to Muslims but why dont they see what is happening in front to their own eyes. They should concentrate on converting those so called muslims back to Islam

Ali, United Arab Emirates - 21 January, 2006

"we need to reclaim our media from these Indians-wannabe`s."
Please! If Pakistan is a true Islamic nation, then how come they even have a movie industry? As far as your comment on Indian wannabes, you guys can learn a lot from us Indian Muslims, then you can probably realize what real Islam is. I seriously dont see Indian muslim women wearing sleaveless shirts and miniskirts that I see Pakistani Women wearing!!!

A Proud Indian Muslima, United Kingdom - 21 January, 2006

Children

Dear Mr. Muzammil,

Please, please do not call an child who is born out of wedlock, "bastard."

An innocent child has done nothing to deserve such a label.

An innocent child has done nothing that he/she should be called names.

Otherwise, knowing very little about Islam, I cannot comment on your article. I can see, however, that you are very proud of your religion and why not?

It's just the name calling in regard to a child that bothered me...



Isadora, United Kingdom - 21 January, 2006

nice

Nice, well written, well researched, thoughtful article. Write more articles because fan like me wants more, more of Ahmer Muzammil.

Rakibur Rahman (full rebuttal), Pakistan - 21 January, 2006

Why?

1. They are not converting to other religions because they are afraid of backlash from thier own family and all. Also they are too closed to change to anything new esp religion.
2. If thousands of Europeans are changing to Islam, so many millions are turning vegetairan, doing Yoga, studying Vedas and are influenced by Hinduism. Let us see everything is positive light and not only Islam.

Dayal, Hungary - 22 January, 2006

Understanding Islam.

Mahmud Shabistari in Garden of Secrets explains-
If the Muslim knew what an idol was
He would know that there is religion in idolatry.
If the idolater knew what religion was
He would know where he has gone astray.
He sees in the idol nothing but the obvious creature:
That is why,in Islamic law he
ia a heathen.Thus members of
the 700 Club fall in this category.On the other hand Allama Iqbal has thoughts for
the mullahs-
Khuda tuj e kisi toofan se ashna ker de
Ke teri mohjohen me istarab nahi.
Tu kitab kho an hai, magar sahib e kitab nahi.
If tomorrow the muslim women were to exhibit their bodies
in the same manner as in the west. Islam would no more be considered repulsive by west.

Khalid Rahim, Canada - 22 January, 2006

Mr. Dayal, provide facts & figures, not exaggerated myths...!

Silver Arrow, Pakistan - 22 January, 2006

"Why aren`t Muslim women converting to Christianity?"

Because we are sick and tired of being controlled by the male oriented Patriarchial god of Aberham.

Women are turning to Matriarchy in droves.

Kelley Bell, United Kingdom - 22 January, 2006

Well said

The author uses strong and bad language sometimes but the over all message is good.

By the way - christianity never told women to wear small skirts. IT is lack of religion that did.

The author should learn to respect religion and direct his anger against immorals.



Sam, India - 23 January, 2006

muslim women targetted

Every little women girl seem trying to get pregnant without religion in Britain.
UN conference under Tony Blair Karzai Kofianan in London will
bring Reform in economic life of Afghanistan.UN resolution is
designing a system-thanks to their realization amid closing the UN
rumour that “ Blair may head as UN boss backed by Bush to bring
reform democracy success freedom of girls separating state and
religion”.


C.Kennedy, Malta - 23 January, 2006

easy answer

Lots of people convert, or revert, to different religions. However, those converting to Muslim are not converting to your version of religion. These Muslims are wearing the skirts, not following prayer guides, and doing things horribly wrong in the eyes of the strict Muslim followers. You also said something interesting, 'free will'. Can you imagine having that in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or other cleric-led societies?

Ryan, United Kingdom - 23 January, 2006

the real reason-why???

well,if the author is pretty sure that ISLAM gives a moral bnd and women dont reconvert back to other relgions ----i have a little doubt
1)why should a islamic pakistan need to have draconican blashphemy laws ---are u afraid abt crticism
2)why death sentence to some one who is muslim and now wants to convert to some other relgions -- what are u afraid of???

remove all these lawas ,make society open and tolerant ans lets see the result after some years ...

kumar, Hungary - 23 January, 2006

Let's be real

I know this article might not be published. I tried eariler. I would like to put the facts in right prespective. Mr AHmer is very good in rhetoric but let's get real mt friend.
Here is some reasons why muslims don't convert to any other religions (if they do they keep low profile)
The Dictionary of Quranic Terms and Concepts - page 16, (written by M. Mir - a Muslim writer), defines the actual Quranic information as:
"APOSTASY Arabic "irtidad". Traditional Islamic law prescribes the penalty of death for a Muslim who commits apostasy. The punishment is not stated in the Quran, but is said to be based on certain Hadith. The advocates and the opponents of the said penalty have, in their attempt to find Quranic support for their views, appealed to certain Quranic verses, but the fact is that none of the arguments offered do full justice to the Quranic context......"
THE TEACHINGS OF THE HADITH ON APOSTASY
It is from the Hadith that we draw our understand and information on the punishment for the apostate. From the Hadith, we find no ambiguity on the subject. All quotes will be from Bukhari's Hadith, from the 9 volume English set, translated by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan.
Bukhari, volume 9, #17
"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Bukhari, volume 9, #37
"Narrated Abu Qilaba: Once Umar bin Abdul Aziz sat on his throne in the courtyard of his house so that the people might gather before him....He replied "By Allah, Allah's messenger never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: 1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) 2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and, 3) a man who fought against Allah and His messenger, and deserted Islam and became an apostate....
In Chapter 2, from "The Book of obliging the Reverters from Islam, page 42, (following Hadith #56) it reads:
"The legal regulation concerning the male and the female who reverts from Islam (apostates). Ibn Umar Az-Zuhri and Ibrahim said, "A female apostate (who reverts from Islam), should be killed. And the obliging of the reverts from Islam to repent Allah said - ....
Following this chapter, a number of Quranic verses are given, among them are some already mentioned. They are 3:86-89, 3:100, 4:137, 5:54, 16:106-110, 2:217.
Narrated Ikrima, "Some atheists were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's messenger forbade it, saying, "Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire)." I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."
Bhukhari, volume 9, #58
Narrated Abu Bruda, "Abu Musa said.....Behold there was a fettered man beside Abu Musa. Muadh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Musa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and hen reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Musa requested Muadh to sit down but Muadh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and his messenger," and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers .....
Bukhari, volume 9, #64 Narrated Ali, "Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's messenger, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky, than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you, (not a Hadith), then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's messenger saying, 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people, who will say the best words, but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'
"Bhukhari, volume 9, #271
Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Muadh Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Muadh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam, and then reverted back to Judaism." Muadh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His messenger."
Bukhari, Chapter 26, from the Book of Mutual Consultation, page 339, following Hadith # 461
"The Statement of Allah... 42:32, 3:159, ...The prophet said, "If someone changes his religion, then kill them....."





allen, Pakistan - 23 January, 2006

Well certainly i will disagree to the comments posted by one of person from India. I quotte what he said
"Remove all these lawas ,make society open and tolerant and lets see the result after some years"

I hereby make his statment false and want to clear that islam is way of life not any rule or law governed by Indian parliment so he should think why why most of Hindus, Christians and lot of other women dont convert to other religions??? simply because they are not in real form and sense and more a supposation that reality

Faisal, Pakistan - 23 January, 2006

In search of God!

WE are blinded by our rage of
not finding God.Yet we have created so many gods,that we find it difficult which to accept and which to discard.
Ahmer has opened pandora's box and I hope he will have the strength to close it.

KhalidRahim, Canada - 23 January, 2006

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