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What if Cho was a Muslim?

23 April, 2007

By Ahmer Muzammil

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Would it have changed the fact that this was a deeply disturbed not to mention chronically ill man? Would the media, neo-cons and Zionists react in the same manner? Would there be plans to attack another Muslim country even though it had nothing what so ever to do with the heinous crime? Is South Korea where CHO hailed from a clear and present danger now and hence should be the beneficiary of Daisy Cutters and other “Marvels of Science” that we have invented for the well-being of human race? If you are able to answer these questions honestly than it should become obvious, that we live in a very sad, hypocritical, prejudice and bigoted world.


In addition to the international dynamic, domestically speaking all things being as they are now, only If CHO had been Muslim, even a non practicing one at that, you can rest assure that there would have been mass arrests, migrations and intimidation of Muslims thru out the country. There would have been threatening phone calls to the masajids, our sisters who wear Hijab would have been harassed. The MSA’s(Muslim Students Association) would have received threats; Muslim women on campus would have been scared because most of them are identifiable thru their head-covering. For an act of a clinically sick individual as it is an established fact now, a whole people of about 7 million or so would have suffered in one shape or another, for the mere fact that his name would have been an Arabic sounding one instead of Asian. Is it fair? No! Would most have cared? Not really! Those who would have cared, and there are millions of them as well, need to start that conversation. Why is it that as a society we are by & large people where common-sense prevail and we are swayed with facts rather than fiction but as soon as there is a hint of an Arabic sound, all hell breaks loose, rules change on its head  and all of a sudden its ‘us’ against ‘them arabs’?


Timing might be questionable to some but it should also bring to fore the importance of human life. For some odd reason we only treasure life and feel that immense pain that is associated with the loss of it when it’s our own. When innocent lives are lost in hundreds on daily basis in foreign lands because of our government’s follies & greed then in best case scenarios we justify it as collateral damage, worst case necessary steps to safeguard our own security, don’t ask for proof however, you are just suppose to take THEIR word for it. As human beings we need to become a little more passionate and a little less pragmatic. Not that the literal meaning of pragmatism has anything to do with our cowboy approach to everything but that’s at least how perception can be sellable as a reality and we do it in a ruthless, cunning manner that would shame wild beasts.


As a nation we stand accused as the murderer of upwards of 6 million human beings just in IRAQ alone in recent times, none of whom had anything to do with 9/11. That is a recognized fact and not even neo-cons rap on that anymore. Thousands of our own men and women have perished in IRAQ fighting a war that has lost little credibility that it might have had, but still the COWBOY in White House insists that any day now IRAQIS will roll out the red carpet. I saw this documentary over the weekend, name was Ground Truth. I must tell you that I realized that even the “PRO-WAR” crowd  seems to only honor those who some how are visibly hurt, hundreds upon thousands of soldiers come back to dwindling careers, broken families and on top of that they have to deal with the demons from their past. The producers of this documentary followed the story of 10 or so soldiers, all of them are suffering with severe depression and anxiety. For those of us who have never encountered this disease, can’t truly understand the hopelessness and misery of these poor-soles. If you look in their eyes you’ll see a pain that is indescribable.


This one soldier explains how he shot and killed an elderly woman who was approaching his humvee, they asked her to stop but she kept on moving towards them perhaps maybe because either she couldn’t hear or really didn’t understand what they wanted from her. Once she was shot dead, they approached her dead body and found a white flag instead of explosives. You can call it an honest mistake and that’s what everyone tried to tell him but this soldier can’t get rid of the guilt, he said he killed an innocent woman in cold blood and there is nothing he can do to bring her back. He said its quite easy to put a sticker on your car that reads “SUPPORT THE TROOPS”, it’s a whole different ball-game to actually go and fight an immoral war and then live with consequences for the rest of your life as an individual. Almost all of them said that they have thought about suicide and wish that they would have died in Iraq. The producers interviewed the family of a soldier who hung himself with a garden-hose. His sister says that he received a hero’s welcome and when they came home from the rally, he said I am a monster, I killed innocent women and kids, and she says he was a different person all-together. He had to end his own life to be at peace. Can the war-proponents put a hand on their hearts and just for a minute imagine the pain that these soldiers must go thru every single day of their life? Was it worth it? Was Iraq really planning to attack USA or even had the capability? Are we really any safer than Pre-Iraq War? Did we really win hearts and minds of Iraqis for getting rid of saddam, are they any safer now? We can only imagine how all these soldiers lives with that pain, day in and day out, all the while Mr. Wolfowitz the architect of this war was busy pressuring authorities to raise his girlfriend’s already over-blown salary. How is this not outrageous enough for American people to call for the heads of these thugs, is beyond me?


There is discontentment amongst people and a great majority of them DO realize that our recent ventures paints America in a not so desirable manner, but the level of outcry that is expected from the supposed flag-bearers and champions of democracy, decency and human-rights is still missing somewhere.


I realize that there are militants out there that are driven by there interpretation of Islam, however my question is that is Islam the driving force behind it or is it some form of injustice somewhere that is the catalyst? For way too long we have avoided these uncomfortable questions maybe because the Zionist lobby in Washington realizes that if this conversation starts then there jig would be up. It has been said numerous times before that people resort to violent means when the corridors of civility and dialogue are no longer available or fruitful. Maoists & Sikhs in India, Tamil’s in Sri Lanka, IRA in Ireland; Kamikaze’s earlier in the history are but few examples of that non-religious phenomenon that we callously slap on Islam alone. No doubt Muslim world has its own justified share of blame, but most of that blame lies with the autocratic rulers of the Islamic World that have looted their respective countries and deprived the population at-large with prosperity that would make the lives worth living for the hordes of masses. Ironically enough most all of these rulers are recipient of seal of approval from Washington. And then we innocently wonder “Why do the Moslems hate us”. Ahh duhh! You are sleeping with their enemy.


It breaks your heart when Parents with teary eyes wish their son or daughter would have skipped class. My heart goes out to all the families and friends of the victims and we the Muslims living in America must come to the forefront to console our neighbors in these tragic times. We are part of this society and since we are the beneficiary of lot of good that American society has to offer to its citizen, we must come together to console those of our country-folk that have been devastated with this atrocity.

Reader Comments:

where does india come in?

Where does sikhs and maoists in India come in here? if you feel the need to include them here, what about Balochisthan and Sind?Why are you talking only about Iraq, why not afganisthan?

Vivek, Hungary - 23 April, 2007

Hui Chinese Muslim in Millions Have Wealth Business Trade Opening

China overall has upto 50 million Muslim .20 million Ningxia Muslim Hui live in enclaves in seven counties as herdsman farmer.As soon as ayatollah Khomeini arrived , mass desertification
And uprooting of Chinese Muslim began.

Cho Seung Hui had apparently compared himself as followers of Ismael , as martyr as victim.While 6 billion people press followed BBC CNN USA Canada Media who in turn followed
The story of two teachers couple of Psychiatrists a judgment order for restraining amid security
Officer visiting and instructing 2 complainant women one apparently from India).Muslims live in
Yanching Qinghai ,Gansu ,Ningxia ,Inner magnolia .Chinese Muslim used own Property resource management as per research by Ningxia Hui Muslim using 284 farms enclave in 10 village 4 counties Yanchi Tonxin Guyuaan Pengyan. Hui live 7 counties Xiji Longde Jingyuan
Guyuan Haiyuan Tongxin.Other Muslims group include Ughur Khan –Mongol Turkmen.

Hence sir pay lal topee phir bhi diil Hindustani – Chini.These days Indians are running around with Red Turban (or without) across Mongol world Cambodia Vietnam Muslim Thailand area .With it Came sidu or sidunzi Chinese hui area with statistic from Muslim source in Nanxing science and technology .Overnight due to obsession of Lal hafsa ethnic strife creation china and India is corporation buying off oic 55 countries and 1400 million Umma with heart lung organ blood transfusion material Imaan and all. Umma gone illiterate while recent Oxford Univ compilation Also included one book of ethnicity describing “ amitabh bachan” means one gives pleasure and pleasure.

These red turban Indian getting on my nerves as more Texan than Texan more Manitoban than Manitoban more british colubian than locals more white than white more british than british more austrailian than Australian with katara kirban case enclave officially approved via strategy psychology.

Z.Billo, Pakistan - 23 April, 2007

What if Cho was a Muslim?

Mr. Muzammil,
Even if Mr. Cho had been a Muslim a quick review of his videotape and writings, would have quickly shown any law enforcement official involved that this man was mentally ill, acting on his own accord. There would have not been a wide net cast, as what was required immediately after 9/11. We are talking scenarios requiring very different security responses.

If people in America immediately ponder if the attack at Virginia Tech was a terror attack, can they honestly be faulted? What happened at Beslan, involved the deaths of many children at the hands of Chechnyan separatists. That was not so long ago. The backwash of some of these things is not easily erased from the psyche of Americans.

And what will the Ummah do with the Imam's who get up in masajid in America and spew anti-West venom? For some of this, the ball is in your court.

Some of your concerns, I understand.

Tammy Swofford

tammy swofford, United Kingdom - 23 April, 2007


I agree with author on 'Tamils of Srilanka'
The Tamils of Srilanka did a non-violent way for asking their rights from 1948 -1985.
After that they took Arms to protect them. Since LTTE controls more Tamil areas, the Tamil people are protected from Srilankan Army.

I request Paktribune to publish more news on this.


Sen, Hungary - 23 April, 2007







A. V. RAO, United Kingdom - 24 April, 2007

What if...

The federal building in Alabama was initially blown by an American, and initially it was thought that muslim(s) must have carried out and an innocent Palestanian was arrested at Heathrow Airport who was on board American Airlines, was taken back to United States for interrogation. What about the Iranian student who went on a rampage in another US university. In Seattle there was a naturalized Pakistani went on rampage shooting, stating muslims are attacked by Americans.

Sunil Sinha, United Kingdom - 24 April, 2007

If Hui was Indeed a Muslim Following Ishmael

Hui as surname indicate is common tribe of China dispersed all over the world. Recently I just shared a private car with one S Korean Tourist couple from Delhi To Agra to visit Taj Mahal.They were Korean and Muslim and had a Muslim Guide from Bengal.
They owned Mfg factory.

They went ahead to visit Ajmer Dargah of Khaja Moinuddin Chustii.I am Sunni Wahabi and do not fancy Sufism as such .It just so happened that Cho Seung Hui claimed in writing being follower of Ishmael .i.e. Muslim.

. Hue Muslim Tribe in China live in 7 provinces and many Counties .At least 4 dozen Million Chinese Muslim are HUI Ugly Turk sung Khan Mongol They are Saturated in SinkJiang. While in Pakistan I went upto China Border.Pakistanis should increase
trade with Muslims of China who are educated and highly advanced in good balance with Han.

B_LaL, Hungary - 24 April, 2007

If Cho

Once the motive behind the crime is known, people perception will change. Very frequently, we encounter why they call some terrorism as Islamic terrorism? The simple answer is the motivation of this activity is Islam (Follow some preachings of Koran etc... and perform the act).

Nikus, Hungary - 24 April, 2007

Principles of motive and Crime - Methodology(ongoing)

Catch red handed War Soldiers (resource collector).Catch Blood collector and Millionaire Billionaire makers (out of written off Umma minority).They are using none functional UMMA None functional Community. The theory of enclave via perception have created Media TV Ruling the world .With Media’s enclave Specialist they take months years While brewing and waiting .They make effort and Take time with 24 hr monitoring .They enclave you, your relative, your friend, your family (At home and abroad) encircling entire asset entire property (business inclusive).This is nature of crime.
It is Highly sophisticated method.It is difficult to say if Cho S Hui was crazy or had a case of enclave due to all HUI enclave.Probably I have replica case.The looters include attorney generals of war zone soldiers .It takes many properties To pay off their upto $30-50000 /yr to stay alive with same 24 hr monitoring same fake judicial Paper same perception and TV blonde brunette green plastic eyes new brand Indian Chinese flashing around their grip on Bush Blair Harper.Since I wrote these past few Years with their modified version I am worst off.Internet is crime increaser via teaching.

ZB, Canada - 24 April, 2007

HOw can there be peace if hating non whites and muslims remains a western cultural value.

Hating Islam is a western value.Repeatedly this is put in practice for example always linking any bad thing,crime etcetc with Islam in which ever way possible.If a murderer is a muslim suddenly this will be mentioned while if he is a christian or jew it will not be mentioned.In this case man was Budhist but the digging was going on to find something to link him to Islam.He used nick name Ishmael and their it was suddenly!Pundits started to link it.As Council of American Islamic relations( no matter who is the perpetrator of terrorism muslims are made to feel they have to step out to apologise.Hating every non white is a western cultural value tragically.
US was never attacked by any other country but always It was US which has been venturing overseas with others' land and wealth.After Regan it focussed on muslims.Regan attacked Qaddafi before elections,then Bush Sr started Iran Iraq war,then Clinton went and attacked SUdan and destroyed a pharmaceutical factory that made anti malarial meds and Aspirin.THen since Bush Jr's time war against Iraq and
Afghanistan is going on.According to Tom Friedman,the foreign policy columnist of NY Times,and I am qouting his words"We don't want war with Islam,we want war within Islam".SO that no matter who looses and gets killed we(west) wins. Yes this statement in this century in America and no body said a word criticising him.Imagine if this was said by Iran,or afghanistan or any other muslim country.This has become the foundation of foreign policy under the cover of fighting terrorism to pitch muslims against muslims and you see it in Pakistan,and every where,this also helps sell American military hardware and spying equipment.While muslims call Jews and christians as people of the book they call muslims as heathans,according to their bible and is practicised by relgious presidents like the present one.How can there be peace in the world then?

Dr.Khan, United Kingdom - 25 April, 2007

What if this author is a clean shaven Mullah? (or worse! A terrorist sympathizer)

The author may not like to be called a Mullah. But remember! We are just playing “what-if” game here as he does so crassly about the murders on Blacksburg campus. It is sad to see that 30+ precious lives are lost in Virginia and our esteemed author is abusing this terrible moment for preaching Islam mixed with a heavy does of anti-Americanism.

I hope one day Pakistani-Americans get out of this mad-Arabism and concentrate on improving Pakistan. Arabs give a hoot to what Pakistan has to face, while Pakistani-Americans are all going gaga on the same Arabs. How many Palestinians give 2 cents to Kashmir issue? But heavens forbid some Palestinian terrorist gets bombed. Suddenly the same Pakistani-Americans are up in arms against their perceived arch-nemesis including America and Israel. These Pakistanis with their frothy mouths spit and rave against Zionism and ever so ready to commit suicidal acts in the name of Allah, Islam, or Satan or all three.

There was no need to even drag Islam into Blacksburg campus the way this author has done so shamelessly. We already have had an Islamic incident in North Carolina Chapel Hill campus. Does this clean shaven Mullah author recall that incident? When a twenty-two-year-old Iranian student named Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar who drove an SUV into a crowd thus gravely injuring 9 students?

Did Americans burn the Islamic symbols? No! Americans moved on with their lives even when Mohammad Taheri claimed that Islam was the motive for his despicable act (

But unfortunately this author in his Islamic-delusions forgot all about that and started harping on Blacksburg, Iraq, the local sabzi wala, and the poor barber.

Close to home, lal Musjid Mullahs are threatening terror. Now ask this Mullah author, if Zionism has closed the doors of civility on these uncouth beardos in Islamabad? Terror spread by Muslims these days is much higher in degree and callousness compared to any Maoist. So let us not drag them in to justify Arab inspired madness.

It is about time Pakistani-Americans come to their senses. If they keep harping on Zionism and other anti-American philosophies they may end up in Gitmo like place. I am sure they will be happy to join their Islamic brethren in those wonderful cages. And yes you would still blame Zionism for your fate. Such a pitiful existence!

Dr. Qazi, United Kingdom - 25 April, 2007

Dr. Qazi

A critique for the sake of critique I can only decipher. Answer the question, "WHAT IF CHO WAS A MUSLIM". Think ....

Very logical comments by TAMMY, yes its true, if CHO was a MUSLIM, it would only have been logical to link him up with any terrorist organization, him being a MUSLIM would naturally have had given him a chance to visit a mosque somewhere, whose imam most certainly would have been taught under a scholar or something, who most certainly would have visited the atleast one country of the Renowned Muslim Theological Schools like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, India, maybe even Pakistan. Theres the connection.

After this connection even if they had shown all those video tapes, simple connect his words, his pictures, his poses to the insanity of the MUSLIM MIND and how it hates the west (which they do, Even you'll hate someone who barges into your home and kills a few of your household members, no?).

And Lo Behold the all too powerful media would have instantly labelled Muslim has insane and sick minds. And ofcourse some hot blooded people won't like that and they'll organize riots, burn tyres, tear down their own businesses, then the media will have a solid reason to call MUSLIMS insane. Then somebody elsewhere will get kidnapped for a whole different reason, and then the TALIBAN wil have killed another journalist. At this point the PENTAGON will have more reasons to stay in AFGHANISTAN, home to Al-Qaeda.

Now as Al-Qaeda has ties to the Iraqi insurgents (read:local population), its the Iraqis fault. Voila, the defence budget for the Iraq qar will increase no matter what the Democrats say.

To this, some of the readers might say, "WHAT A FANTASY WRITER"? which is totally understandable, but is this story so FAR from the TRUTH, Tammy.

Yes I am saddened at the death of the people at Virigina Tech, seriously I am. But I was also saddened more deeply at the hundreds killed in IRAQ that day.

If CHO was a MUSLIM, no us PAKISTANIS wouldn't have fought over whether CHO was a sunni or a shia. Its the western media says, SUNNI bomber or SHIA bomber. Me and my mostly SHIA friends would have simply said, "Agaaaaaaiin a school shooting in America???We count hundreds of bodies everyday in the newspapers, whats 30 odd more ???

Ahmed Sajjad, Pakistan - 25 April, 2007

You are right Dr. Qazi! It is high time pakistan starts thinking of its own country and improve its standard of living. They do not find any respect in Middle east and always behaves a self appointed custodian of Islam though there are many muslim countries who laugh at them. Leave Zions, jews, Hindus at their place and mind your own business as they were here and they will be here to share this part of the world with Pakistan's Muslims

leenahoor, Jordan - 25 April, 2007

Qazi you are trying to hard

Qazi mian,

We have a saying in our "Tribal" language, "Shah say barh kar shah ki wafadari". We realize that your political assylum application is in process and your cab-driver license might be up for renewal as well, but you are getting paranoid for no reason. In civilized countries like America, immigrations are rendered usually regardless whether you are willing to lick the boots of ur masters but i guess the ancestral habbits are hard to shun.

What palestinians are doing for "Kashmir Cause" (is that even a cause now?, i thought mushy decided that we will exchange kashmir for indian soaps)is not the issue. Some of us take the side of the oppressed because unlike you we have to stand before Allah swt in not distant future and its incumbant upon us to stand against the oppressors in support of the weak and oppressed no matter how incovineant it is and it doesnt matter whether that will translate into the refusal of our green card application. By the way the author's view on Iraq and American foreign policy coincides with 65% US citizens so i think its time now to do another "lota" ,that i am sure u r well trained in and start pretending to be a democrat because being "neo-con" is no longer the"in" thing.

By the way what kind of low self esteem would drive a person to be pretentious enough to write "Dr." next to his name? With all due respect real doctors arent trying this hard with such vanity so stop the facade and be proud of ur cabby profession and mentality.

Arbaaz Aafridi, United Kingdom - 25 April, 2007

He Might be Muslim

Our Government is keeping some very important information from us in the public. But some of the stuff we do know suggests a possible Muslim connection. His family is from South Korea BUT before coming to the US they worked in Saudi Arabia for a time. Also Cho had "Ismail-Ax" scrawled on his arm in red ink. What did that mean? This might just be like the Oklahoma City Bombing where the government covered up the obvious Muslim involvement by denying that the third bomber, a Middle Eastern looking person we now only know of as "John Doe 2" ever existed even though eye witnesses saw him.

Gus, United Kingdom - 27 April, 2007

We Wouldn't act that way,

What would have happened is sure their would be threatening calls as people would vent, and yes some vandalism, and perhaps a few wackos would use it as an excuse to attack people but those wackos (say about 3 in a nation of 300 million) would be arrested and put in jail, but for the most part Americans would do all they can to protect the American Muslim community in a time of crisis. Of course that doesn't mean we wouldn't look into our immigration policies and into any foreign connection regarding the attack. But we would also not only law enforcement but average Americans do what we could to protect Muslims and if any property was damaged we would help fix it.

Scott, United Kingdom - 27 April, 2007

Another tribal jumps in to defend a shaven Mullah

Dear Baboo Raam sahib,

You left your “wafadari” in a lota the day you lined up begging for an Amreekan visa. Your effort to be some how superior in your tribal language is just a pathetic effort. And standing up for the oppressed meant you would support Pakistani-Shias at home, and Darfur’s Christians abroad as well. Your selective support for tribal Bedouins is simply a brain-dead phenomenon wrapped in some funny-green cloth of a strange brotherhood.

There were two points utterly wrong in the original essay.
1. The author ignored the despicable and murderous act of Mohammad Taheri on an NC campus, AND Mohammad Taheri claimed that Islam was indeed his motive (
2. The author’s effort was really crass to drag and mix up an Arab issue with Virginia.

You failed to address them both and went on a tangent on cabbies and doctors. What a height of “cabbie” intellect.

FYI. Arabs will continue losing their territory as they have done since 1948. And all that drubbing of the communist-supported Arabs came at the hands of a tiny Israel supported by the America. In those long 60 years (1948-2007) of Arab shame, both democrats and republicans were the rulers in DC. That makes it clear that neo-cons (Republicans) or neo-dons (Democrats) have been involved in whooping the Arabs.
So what the support of Iraq is down, does that make Arab’s life better? The answer is “heck no”.

So what bunch of Pakistani-Americans who eat American bread and sleep with Al-Qaeda, does that change Gaza for the better? The answer is again “heck no”.

Even if Democrats win in 2008, you think Sen. Hillory Clinton is going to present the West Bank to your Arab masters? Heck no!

So all you Arab and terrorism sympathizers, you will be crying no matter who is ruling Washington DC.

Dr. Qazi

Dr. Qazi, United Kingdom - 28 April, 2007

CNN -BBC's Cho with Turkey anti Abdul Lagoo Demon

World has Adopted Islamic Divorce law (sharia law). The attack on Islamic
Countries economic came with attack of wisdom on Cho today by CNN and their
Psychotic Neurologist experts like same broken record after half a Million
Turkish came out In Istanbul against Abdul Lagoo MP with Hijab wife.

Turks never keep name Abdul or Lagan .Turkish Public or Karachi Public against
Lal hafsa demonstration although Justified to shout slogan against Niqab or hand cutting sharia should have investigated first “implanted nature of publicity and their victors with fake record of profile”.All Christian Jews Hindu resident wear scraf in cold winters.It is this implanted NIQAB woman of CBC who is nerve wrecking. Only few Niqabist exist in the world amid 1400 ,000,000 Muslim.

The CNN Media gave wisdom “ Our Doctor said Cho stalked India woman as Cho was mentally sick”.CNN quoted studio psychiatrist : “as Psychotic authority we cannot treat anyone without knowing until after stalker Cho created crime ”i.e. hurt 33 people in Virginia Tech as if all these women are virgin in USA TECH UNIV.One US channel reporter did quote after rampage :“Security personnel did visit the India woman and had persuaded her not to talk to cho as he could be dangerous”. These super rich super advance Media gurus with tons of own sex amid tired mind Projected isolated “E N C L A V E ” Cho a Psychotic
Sex starved case.Why waste time with BBC CNN ?

zm, Pakistan - 30 April, 2007

Pathetic Qazi

Why r u so obsessed with calling urself Dr.? Is it supposed to be compensation for the broken dreams of the past? Nevertheless it’s pathetic! What makes you think I don’t support the oppressed in darfur or Rwanda or shias in pakistan, u don’t know me, I could be the biggest supporter of shais and Christians of darfur for all you know. You however have made it obvious that your loyalty lies with the rising sun. “Ibn-ul-waqti” and being a “thali ka baygan” is a trait that I am sure you learned from your ancestors and wear it as a badge of honor.

Could u be anymore retarded with this NC student crap? Is Islam responsible for any moron who gets up and commits an act of stupidity, why the hell do I have to defend my religion because some moron had a brain-fart? Your name is “Islamic” sounding, you are obviously not the brightest tool in the shack, if you beat up your wife tomorrow, would it be Islam’s and “Arab’s” fault or the fault of the hard liquor that you indulge in as a sign of your “modernity”. Islam can only be held responsible for what’s in Quran and what’s proven from the sunnah of our beloved prophet (PBUH), we will defend that, we wont defend absurdities from individuals who happen to have an Arabic sounding name. And we will stand up for those who are being oppressed by the oppressors, it doesn’t matter to us whether those oppressors are capable of denying your green card application, it shouldn’t matter to you as well because like I said in civilized countries like America you don’t have to always tow the line of your government, your paranoia is the baggage that you have obviously held on to from your original country of birth.

As for eating American bread, I not only eat bread which is ordained for me by my creator but my hard earned paycheck also pays for your food stamps as well so I would rather you and the rest of your trailer-park community just say thank you. You are obviously speaking from experience of your visa process and I have genuine empathy for ya, but some of us were actively recruited by American universities and paid 4 times as much as American citizens do for our education and then were acquired to OFFER OUR SERVICES for which we get paid as is the norm thru out the world. Your submissiveness and pathetic gratitude towards your masters might be well justified because of the welfare and food stamps that you receive, but just because you have a cold doesn’t mean everyone else is sneezing as well.

Arbaaz Aafridi, United Kingdom - 30 April, 2007

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