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Repercussion of Bush visit; US-Indo deal

09 March, 2006

By Farzana Shah


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The fruitless visit of US President Bush to Pakistan ended in a disappointment; however the repercussions of his overall visit will also go a long way for the region in particular and the world in common for many reasons. The US president`s visit to South Asia has cleared the picture to a greater extent vis a vis US future policy for the region specially its policy towards Pakistan is pretty much clear now.

The latest India-US civil nuclear technology accord and renewed offer of sale of F-16 and F-18s to India clearly indicate that US is considering India as a natural ally in the light of its interests in the region hence she is transforming India into a global power. Bush assertion that India and Pakistan have different history and needs (history? probably nuclear history and ostensibly because of non-proliferation concerns) while replying to a query during joint press conference regarding offering similar facility to Pakistan, shows the US following a different frame work for both the countries. We have been made to accept mere rhetorical praises regarding our role and efforts in war on terror which led us to expect more from US while practically we have been ignored. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last Friday also ruled out a similar nuclear technology deal with Pakistan.

Keeping in view the changing geo-political tactics of US,  Pakistan needs to review its policies mainly its cooperation with the US. Looking back at the past record of the US we need to realise before it is too late that US wants to engage us in our internal affairs by fighting war on terror, stabilising Afghanistan for US long-standing interests, while keeping us happy just with the lip service and showering the praises upon us but doing nothing practical on ground. We have been nosed-out for a long now resulting in more damage to us than any gains in this war on terror.
Coming back to the US-India nuclear energy deal--the analysts consider it as a power projection of India. Looking at the energy programmes of India one would easily comprehend that it is quite difficult to separate the programme for the civilian uses from the military use as both had been from the very beginning integrated together into one.

The deal has some immense strategic dimensions which has also been pointed out  by Ashly in his article in the Washington Post. He says,  “although it has been termed for civilian use yet it is aimed at to counter-weigh India against China”.
The deal surely would add to the wide gap of balance of power in the region. According to the reports India has about 250 tons of P239 plutonium which the energy deal would enable her to spare all for `other` nuclear projects. According to an estimate India will be able to produce 50 to 60 Nuke war-heads per year which means she would have a large nuclear arsenal in a few years from now. One wonders as to why the US has indulged in such a deal which would decrease the chances of sale of US weapons once India is able to produce these herself in that quantities. Similarly, the deal besides giving a new context to Pakistan`s quest for the sophisticated conventional weapons, would also affect not only China but also Russia, France, UK Germany etc. There is already a huge imbalance that exists in the conventional capabilities of Pakistan and India and the nuclear deal would compel it to lean more heavily on strengthening the minimum deterrence (clearly nuclear) as an equaliser.  Would it not once again place the contenders at the start line of the arms race track?

On the international front the deal and the visit are going to further polarise the world. Russia still hoping to be a close ally of India and China – as the affected party - must be closely watching the deal, while these developments have certainly provided an opportunity to Pakistan to review its relations with the regional states specially the Russia, China and Iran.

However, we need not be unduly worried that Bush had just taken us for granted,  as one is likely to perceive from his activities here which were unimportant to the extent of  embarrassing us and our government. On the contrary, one should realise that his such useless visit has given us an opportunity to take the stock of the situation in real terms and not rely on the US in matters significant to our national supreme interests. Prudence demands that we look for the alternates around and focus more on China, Russia and the Muslim world as they could be more supportive to us than US in any eventuality. It is also time that we analysed afresh our attitude towards our nuclear programme. So far it has been only a tool for the sub-continental power balance vis a vis India. I think, we should start exploring the possibilities of thermo nuclear explosion and/or  the hydrogen bomb.

India is looking beyond the region as it has almost completed the largest Naval base of Asia at Goa. Coupled with the US offer of F-18s it would extend her reach to the regions far beyond. The world is watching this emerging power with mixed concerns and countries from Saudi Arabia to Indonesia are trying to have good relations with it. We, too, need to look into this aspect. We need to overcome our externalities; gradually decrease our dependence on the US, extricate ourselves from fighting their war on terror. Gradually, mend the fences fully with our neighbours – Kabul and Tehran. We must have the friendliest of the relations with them otherwise we will stand isolated from our all neighbours. In China we have the most dependable and reliable ally. We must not let even a shadow of doubt creep into our crystal clear and highly friendly relationship with them. If US has designs to strengthen India against China, they will have to do much better than that as China will not be alone. And Pakistan, too, will not be alone INSHALLAH.


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Reader Comments:

Myopic

Very short sighted and childish. Specialy the suggested solution (hydrogen bomb). Does pakistan still think that Indian is doing all to finally take over Pakistan one day. Wake up and smell coffee...

ak, United Kingdom - 10 March, 2006

Muslim Baitul Maal Oilfields Bush India Pact


Purpose of US –India Military Pact…

USA Allied Army got to be evicted
From Iraq. Iraq Oil is UN wage based
Is anti Islamic (still an Iran oil stealing
Policy)

Sacrificing the rights of Iraqi citizens
While wrapping up Islam for Oil users
Seem to be India US & King of Saudi
Arabia recent Pact.

Deal to give Pakistan an economic
Edge look with financial gain to individual
Pakistani Imperialists means long term
Invasion occupation of Iraq and daily
Killing of Umma by war of attrition to
Finish off Islam replacing it with meaningless
Wahabiism Islam until it has no value.

Cartoon controversy unification must evict US
Allied and put together united Iraq for Iraqis.
WMD Invasion with allied killing in Kurdistan
Was outlined to divide Iraq into Shia Area
Sunni Area Kurd Area and Oilfields area
(Under UN oil for food programme).

It was also stressed that Bani Israel of
Quran model will come with Oil for release
“Of muslim prisoners” ie UN or allied
Oil based Economy.

Islamic methodology – “baitul maal” House of
Islamic finance was piece together By making
us write in internet with unlimited oil asset(now
in Jewish Hindu Christian Buddhist and Wahabi hand)!

benz m Ispahani, India - 10 March, 2006

Thats rite baby! India is a rising super power...we are the US soon n u will be our Mexico!

Ranjani, United Kingdom - 10 March, 2006

Pak Deceived

You have been led down the garden path, as your article makes clear. Are your Foreign Affairs Analysts sleeping? Pull your weight, Pakistan and use it wisely.

F James Smith, Canada - 10 March, 2006

its all "survival of the fittest"
in another 100 years.. there will be another world-war for 3 reasons...
energy, energy and energy.

in another 300 years from now...
no inshallah, no ram, no jeez can help us(human race) from become cannibals and eventually become extinct.

until then... inshallah, ram and jeez





raja, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

THE AUTHOR HAS FORGOTTEN THE DOLLARS WHICH HAVE BEEN PUMPED IN PAKISTAN TO BOOST ITS ECONOMY IN RETURN FOR ITS HELP IN WAR AGAINST TERROR.THE AUTHOR HAS ALSO FORGETTEN TO MENTIONED A NUMBER OF ARMS DEALS WHICH HAVE TAKEN PLACE WITH US AFTER ITS PARTICIPATION IN WAR AGAINST TERROR.US HAS ALSO CLEARED THE DECK FOR THE SALE OF F-16S ,WHICH WERE ALMOST SHELVED.THE US IN RETURN FOR PAKISTANfS PARTICIPATION IN THIS WAR HAD ALSO LIFTED THE SANCTIONS IT HAD IMPOSED ON PAKISTAN AFTER THE 1998 NUCLEAR TEST.DESPITE NUCLER TREATY WITH INDIA,PAKISTAN IS STILL THE LARGEST MARKET FOR ARMS FOR US.
THE AUTHOR STATES"WHY THE US HAS INDULGED IN SUCH A DEAL WHICH WOULD DECREASE THE CHANCES OF SALE OF US WEAPONS ONCE INDIA IS ABLE TO PRODUCE THESE HERSELF IN THAT QUANTITIES"WELL.WHEN DID INDIA BUY NULCEAR WEAPONS FROM US IN THE FIRST PLACE??

THE QUESTION IS WHY NOT PAKISTAN??
THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES UNLIKE OTHER COUNTRIES FIGHT UNITEDLY IRRESPECTIVE OF DIRECT EFFECT ON ITS OWN COUNTRY. FOR EXAMPLE -IN WAR AGAINST ISRAEL, PAKISTAN WAS ALSO A MEMBER WHICH PROVIDED MEN AND ALSO LAUNCHED MILITARY ATTACK ON ISRAEL.WHY??WAS ISRAEL-PALESTINE WAR HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH PAKISTAN? NO.HAD ISRAEL LAUNCHED ANY ATTACK OR GRABBED ANY PIECE OF LAND IN PAKISTAN.NO.BUT STILL PAK WENT AHEAD AND HELPED ANOTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRY. BECAUSE IT WAS A FIGHT FOR RELIGION. RELIGION WAS THE UNITYING FACTOR. PAK DOESNT REGONISE ISRAEL EVEN NOW. ALTHOUGH IT HAD RECOGNISED BANGLADESH,AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY WITHIN 3 YRS OF ITS DEFEAT BY INDIA.US FEARS THAT SINCE PAKISTAN CAN PUT ITS FEET IN WAR JUST BCOS THEY HAVE SAME RELIGION IN COMMON..IT WASNTIN PAST(REMEMBER AQ KHAN)AND IT CANT BE A RESPONSIBLE NON-PROLIFERATION NATION.

FURTHER IF US STRIKES A NUCLER DEAL WITH PAKISTAN IT WONfT SHOW GOOD FOR US AS PAKISTAN IS A MILITARY COUNTRY AND NOT DEMOCRATIC.
INDIA DOESNT NEED 50-60 NUCLEAR BOMBS ANYWAY. BECAUSE IN CASE OF A NUCLEAR WAR BETWEEN INDIA AND PAKISTAN BOTH NATIONS CANT GO ON AND ON DROPPING 50 NUCLEAR BOMBS ON EACH- OTHER.

THE US ENTERD INTO A TREATY WITH INDIA TO CHECK CHINA.BUT PAK HAS ALREADY GOOD RELATIONS WITH CHINA THEN, IS,IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO ENTER INTO A NUCLER TREATY WITH PAK TO CHECK CHINA.WILL PAKISTAN AGREE TO DITCH CHINA??


Abhishek Majumdar, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

Points to Ponder

Bush's assertion about history of India and Pakistan was not only in area of Nuclear Proliferation but also in areas such as Democracy, Waging Wars and Religious Zeal of ruling class. In all these aspects India's record is much better than Pakistan's.

Some evidences

Trying to capture Kashmir right after independence

1965 War to try again ( USA never helped PAK in this war rather offered help to India)

Unrest in East Pakistan in 1971 and creation of Bangladesh

Religious Zeal of Dictator Zia Ul Haque

Nuclear Black market of Dr. Khan

Support for Taliban

Ongoing support for Taliban reminiscent

Nevertheless, Pakistan has good chance of curing it ills by having a true democracy in next 3-5 years where minority is protected and Rule of law (not sharia) is supreme.

Birth of Pakistan was very bloody and unstably event in history for that part of the world. Pakistan is one of the few nations which were created in name of Religion. Ever since, Pakistan tried to match whatever India did without rationalizing the consequences. Today, India is Democracy (not perfect) where transition of power is a peaceful event. India has shown wisdom in it's execution by reflecting its culture and traditions. Pakistan on other hand tried to implement Islamic Utopia and failed. Common man in Pakistan needs food, water and jobs not Nukes.

I don't believe India is being used by USA to counter balance China rather it is more of a business deal. China is rising peacefully and will continue to do so. China is a proud culture with rich traditions of tolerance, wisdom and mutual respect. China has more threats from Inside than outside hence, Indo-Us nuke deal might not be big concern for China in Long run.

Pakistan on other had does not have very good relation with any of its neighbor. Pak believes that a friend thousands of miles away will help them rather than next door neighbor. History has shown time after time that it is better to have good brotherly relation with Neighbor.

I am hopeful for Pakistan but this might be their last chance to create positive impact for its citizens and rest of the world. We need more Abdus Salam (sole winner of Nobel with Paki origin) not Dr. Khan

Any comments?



David Lane, United Kingdom - 10 March, 2006

Think practically

If we support China just to fight against India, can we expect China not to be like US someday?

Asif, Pakistan - 10 March, 2006

Win-win views

China has opened Tibet and Sikkim border with India and is not against this deal. Nor Russia. Every country nowadays wants trade and cooperation with every other country. That is win-win and that is the way most leders of the world think.
Which two countries have the tech to land a man on moon?-US and India(not EU)
Which 3 countries fully make thier own supercomputer- US, Japan, India
20% of US power and 3% of India's power is already nuclear.
India has the world's highest bandwidth between Chennai, Bangalore & Singapore.
So it is just a deal between two technological and nuclear powers, which comes naturally.
Inshaallah Pak can trade, cooperate and develop itself as should the rest of the world.

Dayal, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

It just sour grapes

Farzana, your article was like crying over spilt milk. We need to accept one thing that India was always more powerful than Pakistan, not only in its military might, but also with its strong belief and success in democracy,education,freedom and technology.For eg:where does Pakistan stand in Space Technology?Nowhere while India has the most number of indegenious satellites by any country in the world.We on the other hand still are not even sure whether we are a nuclear power or not.Did we really est "nuclear" weapons or was it just a cover up?And I think it ll take ages for Pakistan to develop a H-bomb.The US on the other hand realises the situation and acknowledges it well.American have always been smart and have always foxed us, and we get foxed each and everytime.The US just keeps Pakistan as a battle ground on which it can fight its own war.And why should the US do favors to us when we can just boast of military coups and constitutional changes to keep our Dictators in uniform and power.Where is the economy of Pakistan heading to? Compare India.. The fastest growing economy in the world!The US would obviously see a "natural" ally in India. Both have a lot in common. Both are successful democracies, they never had political hijacking by Dictators, both are economically booming, both are technological leaders because of their excellent educational infrastructure, there is no extremism in the two countries, they have excellent track record as far as support and spread of terrorism is concerned and lastly, they have nt left any chance for political and democratic instability to creep in.

Its a well known fact that the Silicon Valley is run by Indians and Chinese. The US were always aware of this fact, just that thy have started acknowleding it now. As far as the nuclear deal goes, India have an excellent track record to boast of. They conducted the nuclear tests and informed the world about them and explained why they were conducted. We just did tit-for-tat.What sort of nuclear record can we boast of?The world knows it that the Indian nuclear tests were indegenious.I guess most of us in Pakistan knew that whatever nuclear tests we did were just Chinese technology. AQ Khan's murky relation with the nuclear black market is enough reason for the world to believe that "We have different histories"..

The amount of extremism in Pakistan can fear any country to lend nuclear hellp to it. Who knows in which part of Pakistan, Osama bin laden and his associates are hiding.Its a well known fact to the world that the "lands" of Pakistan (NWFP) are training grounds to terrorist groups .The US realises this fact too but just because of its self centered policies, it shrugs it under the carpet. Had the US Army not been present in Pakistan when there was an attack on the Parliament of India, India and Pakistan would have had another war.

If you've ever been to the US, I think you would have noticed the behaviour of local American towards the Indians and Pakistanis. They always look at an Indian as a highly educated engineer, doctor or as a matter of fact a professional while on the other hand, they look at us as terrorists, always. And I wonder who is to blame? And I guess this is evident enough why India got the nuclear deal and Pakistan was just a formality stop over for George Bush.

The most baffling fear for any goverment in the world regarding Pakistan the lack of political instability. If there is any such nuclear deal with Pakistan, everone fears extremist forces taking over Pakistan any day and taking charge of the nuclear installations. And then the US might just be the first victim of its nuclear favor to Pakistan.

Talking of the Naval base in Goa, well its just proof to the advancement of Indian technology and military might. Why cant Pakistan do a similar thing?Why should it keep waiting for the F-16s and not advance its military research program?Why cant Pakistan focus on basic human freedom?Why do we support extremism?Why cant we shift our policy of tit-for-tat and concentrate on education, technolgy and social upliftment? I guess we do have "different histories".. There has nt been much international opposition to the Indo-US nuclear deal, but had there been a similar Pak-US deal, I dont think the reaction would have been the same.

Just because of our illogical policies, we have always suffered. We as far apart from the Muslim world as we are from the non-Muslim world. This is just the start. We would definitely see this deal pass the US congress and many more to come for India while we just have our backs patted and nothing more.

There can never be a level ground for Pakistan until it stops aiding the rise of terrorism. Blame yourself for it and for once, complement India for its "different history"..

I would surely like to hear from you in this regard.

Farooq Aktar
Portland

Farooq, United Kingdom - 10 March, 2006

Pakistans Future Goals

From the day Pakistan was born it had only one goal in mind,that to attain conventional military parity with India and annex kashmir. In the same way India always made sure that Pakistan never achieved that goal. In recent years India has realized that Pakistan centric foreign/military policies will never help it to attain global power status. It not just military power but a country's economy also helps to project the power status and hence India has rightly move away from a pakistan centric policies to more dynamic policies especially in the area of foreign relations,commerce and military.

India is now moving ahead with a new goal of attaining global power status mainly depending on its economy and to a lesser extend on its military. India will and continue to be one of the fastest growing economy in the world with 8% growth in the coming years. India can achieve much higher growth (about 10%) if more sector of the indian economy is opened up for foreign direct investment eg retail sector.

Pakistan has to realize that the present world mantra is "Money, Money, Money" and the country that can provide good return on investments will have more friends than those country who rely on religion and military centric society. I am not saying they are bad but it should not be the crietra for deciding state or foriegn policy. The sooner Pakistan realizes the fault in its policy making, the faster is will help Pakistan to come out of the blackhole of instability. As " ak from United States of America" has said in the post. Its was highly irresponsbile and childish on the part of "Farzana Shah" to suggest Thermonuclear and/or Hyderogen bomb as the solution. This clearly show the mentaily of some of the people in Pakistan. At the present rate Pakistan will never be able to match India in terms of economy size or military power.


Pakistan can only find a respectable place in the world if it brings its house in order and return to democracy and also play a more constructive role in regional stability by breaking links with groups which Pakistan thinks will help it achieve its strategic goals. The world is big and we can all have a big share of world economy and prosperiety . The trick lies for all of us to use the Chinese concept of "Peaceful Rising" (in the basic sense). So that all the peopel in the world can live in a peaceful and safer place.


Deepak Das, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

pls don fear

hi, thanks u hv great info,
but y to be friend with any other country , y cant we be friend india - pakistan , we hve nver attack u , nor we r increase our wepon for pakistan , we r thinking ahead of this , just when the pakistan will understan, and tell u every power ( america or china can be defeted) but if we joint had we can be selfpowerd power. and the time has come that we to be partner , and be brother like we were,
because we both hve become pupet in the world.

LET BREAK THE CHAIN AND SHOW THE WORLD WHT WE ARE.

Abhijeet Chavan, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

we need systems to keep control

Now kashmir is not supported by US. Even china dont favor the jehadis. They have taken lessons from US.

sunny, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

Multi-dimensional approach

The article has been very well written and thought provoking but I think it lacks a multi-dimensional approach. The topic has been treated in black and white.

First, all the talks of an "equaliser" solution to the problems of Pakistan vis-a-vis India are very immature and blunt. Specially the argument that having 50 or 100 odd A-bombs or H-bombs would secure Pakistan forever. National security is a never ending challenge which needs to be dealt with at various fronts such as social integration, economic development, poverty alleviation and n number of other factors.

Take the example of Russia. It has the world's second largest(or maybe largest) nuclear arsenal but still it couldn't prevent the breakup of the USSR. The point here is, what bread, butter and education can do, nuclear weapons can't.

Second, every nation follows its own geo-strategic interests and those are not affected by any single or a group of factors. It involves a large number of variables in a world which is highly uncertain. Not even the US(the sole superpower) can dictate the direction of world affairs which are very unpredictable in nature.

Thirdly, Pakistan is much smaller compared to India in terms of size, population, economy and a number of other factors. Trying to outdo India in every sphere blindly would do Pakistan more harm than good.

Fourth, I believe the generations of pre-partition and those born just after it had difficulty seeing India and Pakistan as different nations. So this talk of equality and unreasonable comparisons are all manifestation of that thought process. However those born after 1971 period have no such attitudes. The young people in India and Pakistan are as different as those of any other two nations can be(except the language and some obsolete cultural practices).

I don't know much about Pakistan but the youngsters in India find these issues of friendship with Pakistan(it doesn't mean we have any enmity!)and all at the bottom of their priorities. The electronic media often in their zeal portray as if people are dying to meet others across the border but they are the remnants of those who were seperated during the partition and there are very few remaining.

Sixty years ago, India and Pakistan chose to go seperate ways. We young people don't understand why they can't forget each other and live in peace now. We want opportunities, not H-bombs. We need peace and not war.

Md. Kashif, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

illusion

dear farzana: u r living in dream land.even after having worlds 2nd largest population ,people with different relegions,people with defferent languges we indians have vibrant democracy. may be there are some loopholes still we manage it. by exploding nuclear, hydrogen bomb or stopping fight against terror will not bring u at paar with india.also i find it strange that u only advice friendly relation with iran, tehran ,kabul,china but not with india.this only show ur unmatuared mentality. as a regional power india can help pakistan economically and socially.which can ultimately benifit whole south asia.instead of forging the strong relationship with india you advocate conflicting politics.arms race and conflicting politics will not make pakistan at paar with india,it will only drain pakistan dearly.india always maintain its relationships with other nations keeping its interest supreme.once pakistan was depended on usa. now u want pakistan to depend on china.why u dont advice that as after having common history, common culture india and pakistan can maintain brotherly relationsips. it is pakistan which wanted to change its demography by linking it to arab counties ignoring its culture oweing to indian subcontinent, naming missiles to those afghan warriors who attacked india to show the world that they are different from indians[indian missiles are named ofter five eliments of earth, not after kings as common pakistani thinks ].iam sure pakistan will only get its respect among the nations only when it has friendly relationship with india.again i advice farzana to write such article which will only help to bring peace to the subcontinent so that the resources would not be diverted to the battlefields.
regards.

prashant, Hungary - 10 March, 2006

another hate filled article

First. No coutry can make another country a super power. therefore, people who think that US can make India a superpower are living in a fool's paradise.

Second, I wish author would have added India to the list of Iran and Afghanistan, with whom Pak wants to mend fences.

third china's interest in pak has been primarily to keep India boxed in south asian box. since India has now already broken the South Asian barrier, that strategy is outdated. china's relation with pak is that an enemy's enemy is a friend. China is taken aback the way Pak has embraced fasco-islamic elements. China has its own territorial concerns on that front and is looking at what path Pak will take on this issue in the future.

forth, there is no proposal that Bush will sell nuclear weapons to India.

fifth, no matter how many nukes Pak have it still lacks the strategic depth that India has. You can count on figers of one hand how many nukes you need to wipe off pakistan.

sixth, with the world wide awake, it is almost impossible for another AQKhan to steel blueprints of thermonuclear bomb or a hydrogen bomb. more or less pak should count out development of these devices.

seventh, I cannot emphasise enough that ordinary Indians have absolutely no lust for any territory which in fact we parted with, to create Pak in the first place. we just wish that pak withdraws from occupied kashmir and undertake not to fire a single bullet towards India in future, either through its uniformed soldiers or through its irregulars namely jihadi organisations.

eigth, pak should stop people like syed salahuddin and others openly spreading hatred against India on TV/radio, which can be heard/received in parts of India bordering pak.

Pak can be a peaceful and progressive country if it takes following steps.

1. embrace a secular democratic culture.
2. repeal blasphamy laws and ban sharia as they are outdated with respect to modern human senstivities and outlook.
3. withdraw from Ocuppied Kashmir and stop projecting its jihadi/terrorist activities as indeginous freedom strugle in the Kashmir.
4. take a stock of its people, and its resources and start with a clean slate.
5. boycott people like this author who are unnecessarily poisoning minds of ordinary citizens with hatred.

Chan, United Kingdom - 10 March, 2006

Dehyphne

Dear Shah,

I read your article in pak tribune regarding Bush's south asian visit. I think even after 50 years of indipendence, Pakistans foreign policy/economic policy are India centric. Till 1990 per capita income of pakistan was more then India and Pakistan was more prosperous and favoured by global countries then India. So what went wrong after that? Just ask that question to yourself? Pakistani govt as well as journalist are more interested in India rather then pakistan. Kashmir has become cause for pakistan existence. Why? Trust me muslims in india are more safer then muslim in pakistan. As an Indian I assure you we will leave pakistan alone if they leave us alone. We want friendly relationship with pakistan but without any preconditions. We wont to communicate this to people of pakistan that world is moving ahead and please move forward with us. Please dont have any inferiority complex, as india is much bigger country that pakistan so it has to get bigger attention. Pakistan and India both have place in this world to co-exist so dont make it zero sum game. Dont start thinking that china will help in this zero sum game cause once china will have greated business interest with india they wont care about you. So learn to co exist with India in this new world.

Thanks

Manish Maheshwari

USA

manish maheshwari, United Kingdom - 11 March, 2006

History

Bush's assertion about history of India and Pakistan was not only in area of Nuclear Proliferation but also in areas such as Democracy, Waging Wars and Religious Zeal of ruling class. In all these aspects India's record is much better than Pakistan's.

Some evidences

Trying to capture Kashmir right after independence

1965 War to try again ( USA never helped PAK in this war rather offered help to India)

Unrest in East Pakistan in 1971 and creation of Bangladesh

Religious Zeal of Dictator Zia Ul Haque

Nuclear Black market of Dr. Khan

Support for Taliban

Ongoing support for Taliban reminiscent

Nevertheless, Pakistan has good chance of curing it ills by having a true democracy in next 3-5 years where minority is protected and Rule of law (not sharia) is supreme.

Pakistan is one of the few nations which were created in name of Religion. Ever since, Pakistan tried to match whatever India did without rationalizing the consequences. Today, India is Democracy (not perfect) where transition of power is a peaceful event. India has shown wisdom in it's execution by reflecting its culture and traditions. Pakistan on other hand tried to implement Islamic Utopia and failed. Common man in Pakistan needs food, water and jobs not Nukes.

I don't believe India is being used by USA to counter balance China rather it is more of a business deal. China is rising peacefully and will continue to do so. China is a proud culture with rich traditions of tolerance, wisdom and mutual respect. China has more threats from Inside than outside hence, Indo-Us nuke deal might not be big concern for China in Long run.

Pakistan on other had does not have very good relation with any of its neighbor. Pak believes that a friend thousands of miles away will help them rather than next door neighbor. History has shown time after time that it is better to have good brotherly relation with Neighbor.

I am hopeful for Pakistan but this might be their last chance to create positive impact for its citizens and rest of the world. We need more Abdus Salam (sole winner of Nobel with Paki origin) not Dr. Khan

Any comments?

David Lane, United Kingdom - 11 March, 2006

Please...

improve your English before writing articles.

Andy, United Kingdom - 11 March, 2006

view of a indian, part 1

hello madam farzana shah. madam i would like to give you a compliment, you are my faourite writer on this website. you write very clearly and to the point. i like your thinking.

madam trust me if you could be an indian writer, you might have come with some very nicely smiling pictures of Mr G Bush. trust me madam, if u would be an indian writer, the main attraction of your articles must be the quality smile of Mr Bush. even those news papers who are known for their fundamentalist approach and have been very anti of US for a long are also doing the same now. one truth, most of them are in love with US. look like honeymoon period of India and US is going on.haha.

madam i want to clear some difference between india and pakistan. madam nuclear power of india is becoz of its own. india first did nuclear test in 1974 which was a challenge to US and West. that time US wanted china to attack on india but china culdnt. the reason, entering others border is always 4 times harder than protecting border and nuclear power india had N bomb carrier aircrafts also that time and the most important, a very aggresive prime minister I Gandhi. when US attacked on iraq, US gave the reason that Iraq might have nuclear bomb that why US attacked, while just 6-7 years before in 1998 india did nuclear test and said we have nuclear bombs. pakistan "JUST" followed india nothing else. US made all the bans but india registered about 6% average growth rate that time while for the same period, growth rate of US was about 3%. Whenever US attacked on afganistan or on iraq, they captured their “SKY” in 2-3 days. But in case of india, crossing even indian ocean is not easy (and again entering borders of other countries is 4 times harder than protecting the borders).while india has fourth largest aircraft carriers to protect indian SKY. There is a big difference between country like india or china with country like pakistan, iran, indonessia, malaysia, saudi arebia, singapore bla bla. Madam pakistani economy(US$380bn) is very small as compared to india(US$3700bn) or china(US$8100bn), (datas are in PPP which don't change with currency rates). India can offord bans but not economies like pakistan or even indonessia or singapore type countries. POWER IS MEASURED BY ECONOMIC SIZE NOT BY PER CAPITA INCOME. That's why while chineese per capita income is not even in among top 100 countries but china has been accepted as second most powerful country. while rich singapore is no power.

India has proved in last 42 years since 1974, whether US accept or not, india can maintain N power. Whether US and china are friend(between 1974 to 1990) or enemy as now. It doesn't matter. If india want N-bomb. We can even do testing. Only three countries, india, israel and pakistan dared to refuse to sign NPT. Israel do just what US says so they don't have to. Pakistan did what china said and US was also wanting that time to balance india who was close alley of US enemy USSR. And india didn't sign NTP as india wanted to challenge five N powers. India never changed its stand which was,”either all countries would have N power or no country would have N power”. We are not slave and will never accept salvage. We indian could even defeat that time superpower Britain without taking arms. No matter how strong grouping has been made against india in last 42 years, (india was banned by all the “powerful” economically and militarily both), we will never give up. We may die becoz of hunger but we cant accept that world war 2 winners would have N bomb but not a developing country. We don't have problem in facing UN like iran as we never gave wrong information to world. We never signed NTP and never lied world.

Muslim country like indonessia (which is more populated and far bigger economy than pakistan, and have big area also) doesn't have N power as they cant face “bans”. But pakistan has N power as US ignored her and china supported her to balance india. “””Pakistan would be happy for whatever she has and thank to india which put so much challenge against US and West and China that they supported pakistan against india.”””

s tiwari, Hungary - 11 March, 2006

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